beware...They're really out to kill you....!!!!

RJprod · February 26th, 2013, 05:46 PM

I used to think that the riders who complained about cagers trying to kill them on the road were exaggerating a bit, until I get a taste of it myself "just now". I picked up my bike from the mechanics a few hrs ago. it was running lean and the tank was rusty to the point where the bike was having a hard time running well. It runs great now.. I never experienced the true power of the bike until now.. being a new rider, I always thought the little hiccups was my fault.. anyway, that's another story for another time. on my way back from the mechanics, I stopped at a gas station to put some gas. that's when **** started to happen to me.. I had this guy merging into my line while he's on the ****ing phone. I'm pretty sure if he looks to the side, he would've seen me.. it's like I was invisible to the sucker... as if that weren't enough, later in the same trip another guy merged into my lane again. this time I was doing 55 mph. I'm starting to think that people don't respect motorcyclists enough. from the look I got from that guy, it seemed like he underestimated the speed of the bike.. He really thought I wouldn't get to him that fast. he merged and stopped right in front of me. Thank God, I used to practice stopping with both brakes, and I was able to slow down enough...

You don't know how bad and careless people are when driving until you get on a motorcycle.

I've been riding for about a month if that counts for anything....

krolinked · February 26th, 2013, 05:54 PM

Try to change your riding habits to accomodate and keep out of those potential accident situations, Always think : "What if this car does this, I'll do this if he does." always assume they will do something sudden!

csmith12 · February 26th, 2013, 05:56 PM

That is how it goes, so ride like your invisible.

Welcome to level 1 riding Robenson!

Jiggles · February 26th, 2013, 06:04 PM

You sound surprised

RJprod · February 26th, 2013, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krolinked

Try to change your riding habits to accomodate and keep out of those potential accident situations, Always think : "What if this car does this, I'll do this if he does." always assume they will do something sudden!

Yea.. if i hadn't expected him to jump my lane, things would've been worse...strangely enough, I ddnt panic.. I think that's a good thing for a new rider...

allanoue · February 26th, 2013, 06:08 PM

1) you are invisible, it is not personal
2) if they do see you, they have no perspective of how fast you are traveling, most especially if you are accelerating faster then most cars.

3) out of 10,000 cars, one or two will be out to get you, just out of jail and/or on there way to jail

Good news is it gets easy to avoid them all.

RJprod · February 26th, 2013, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

You sound surprised

hell yea.. I heard it was bad, but it's worse than I thought.....pple will run you over without thinking twice about it...

RJprod · February 26th, 2013, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

That is how it goes, so ride like your invisible.

Welcome to level 1 riding Robenson!

Level 1 riding... lol.. thank you...

RJprod · February 26th, 2013, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanoue

1) you are invisible, it is not personal
2) if they do see you, they have no perspective of how fast you are traveling, most especially if you are accelerating faster then most cars.

3) out of 10,000 cars, one or two will be out to get you, just out of jail and/or on there way to jail
Good news is it gets easy to avoid them all.

Yea... I know the first guy saw me.. there was no way he could be that blind..
I won't let things like that stop me from riding.. the feeling is too great...

Jiggles · February 26th, 2013, 06:17 PM

Watch how this guy almost died and there was nothing he could do about it

Link to original page on YouTube.

choneofakind · February 26th, 2013, 06:21 PM

Jiggles. I see your point, but I think your sarcasm might get lost here.

RJprod, it's good that you saw this with your own eyes because motorcycles are just inherently more dangerous than cars. You have to ride defensively and be proactive in avoiding danger. That being said, don't over react to other traffic. Getting mad is just going to cloud your judgement for the rest of your ride. Road rage never ends well when a motorcycle is involved.

Also, I'm of the opinion that if you're consistently getting into situations with traffic like this, you maybe need to evaluate your riding.

RJprod · February 26th, 2013, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Jiggles. I see your point, but I think your sarcasm might get lost here.

RJprod, it's good that you saw this with your own eyes because motorcycles are just inherently more dangerous than cars. You have to ride defensively and be proactive in avoiding danger. That being said, don't over react to other traffic. Getting mad is just going to cloud your judgement for the rest of your ride. Road rage never ends well when a motorcycle is involved.

Also, I'm of the opinion that if you're consistently getting into situations with traffic like this, you maybe need to evaluate your riding.

well, the first guy I dnt c any other way I could've avoided being in that situation.. in my defense, my lane wasn't running. the second guy came out of nowhere from a parking lot.. I could've moved to the left lane way before I sensed he would do something, but being the rookie that I am I ddnt think of that.. but, I certainly learned from it..

Motofool · February 26th, 2013, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJprod

.......Thank God, I used to practice stopping with both brakes, and I was able to slow down enough...

I fully agree with Chris above and recommend this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Proficient-Mot.../dp/1889540536

RJprod · February 26th, 2013, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motofool

I fully agree with Chris above and recommend this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Proficient-Mot.../dp/1889540536

I'll take a look at it, soon..thanks

sLick415 · February 26th, 2013, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Watch how this guy almost died and there was nothing he could do about it

I would of watched the whole video waiting for him to "almost die" if I didnt know any better.

geeker · February 26th, 2013, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motofool

I fully agree with Chris above and recommend this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Proficient-Mot.../dp/1889540536

Tis a good book for educating new and old riders alike. It explains similar situations to the ones you encountered and many you have never thought of before.

BlueHairSar · February 26th, 2013, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

That is how it goes, so ride like your invisible.

Yea, I like to think that I suddenly develop the superpower of being invisible whenever I get onto my bike. Most people aren't trying to kill you; they're just not being diligent enough to notice you. I think looking at it like you're invisible vs everyone's out to get you helps eliminate the escalation into road rage.

BlueHairSar · February 26th, 2013, 09:19 PM

Plus, who doesn't like getting extra super powers

Aggrotech · February 26th, 2013, 09:58 PM

people in cars are generally stupid...its really that simple..yeah its a huge generalization, but when youre on a motorcycle and you see everything going on around you, you realize just how stupid these people are.

Hell just 2 days ago i saw some dumb blonde bitch stuffing her face with a burrito AND on her phone at the same time, all while switching through 2 lanes of traffic, without using her turn signal...she almost got hit by some derpy redneck in a ford2500 (who was goin a good 20mph over.)

Majority of people on the road should not be allowed anywhere near vehicles tbh.

Havok · February 27th, 2013, 11:36 AM

Ok who here didn't predict that black car moving over on him. It was obvious the guy just got on the freeway and was looking to merge to the fast lanes. Dude should have head checked the on ramp and just matched his speed to let the guy have room. Too busy blabbing into his mic

allanoue · February 27th, 2013, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havok

Ok who here didn't predict that black car moving over on him. It was obvious the guy just got on the freeway and was looking to merge to the fast lanes. Dude should have head checked the on ramp and just matched his speed to let the guy have room. Too busy blabbing into his mic

NDspd · February 27th, 2013, 03:50 PM

Knew what was going to happen nearly immediately....I've been through that type of situation too many times, so I've learned what signs to look for. It also comes down to predicting what someone may do and then taking measures to get away in the event it really does happen. I never hang in people's blind spots, that's one of the biggest things to keep an eye on.

But there will be sometimes you just can't predict people, you just have to be ready for them. As much as I would hate to, I profile drivers a lot...meaning I look at the type of vehicle, condition of the vehicle, race, age and what the driver is doing. I'm not racist at all, but no offense african american drivers here in savannah cause the most accidents. I'd like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but when most the "butt pucker" moments I've had, were caused by old people and African Americans. So knowing that, I apply my experience to avoid those types of drivers.

Now if I go to Ohio, then it's all the soccer moms and red neck trucks.

I just hate I have to be so mean to people when I ride, but I've got to protect myself.

Ok, end of rant...keep your heads on a swivel guys!!

adouglas · February 28th, 2013, 11:46 AM

They're not trying to kill you.

They're trying to kill Jiggles. You're just riding too close to him.

Even though he's 2,800 miles away.

Gurk · March 1st, 2013, 01:23 PM

That guy in Jigglet's video is a pussy.

iZapp · March 2nd, 2013, 08:58 AM

on my daily commutes (i ride an Aprilia 1000 twin) i ride as though i'm on the track (kinda) - ya, probably a bit brisk and extreme, but FOCUSED. i think riding with that mentality heightens your senses and awareness, and removes the lacksidasical attitude that can get riders in trouble. i've been riding on the street for 32 years (holy crap) and can count the number of times "someone has tried to kill me" on one hand, and think it's mostly because i am actively LOOKING for those people while riding.

sk1l1ne · March 8th, 2013, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gurk

That guy in Jigglet's video is a pussy.

+1

gallardo73 · March 17th, 2013, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Watch how this guy almost died and there was nothing he could do about it

Link to original page on YouTube.

Hey jiggles never faster than mine!!

nickjpass · March 17th, 2013, 04:19 PM

I knew they were out to get me after a woman almost ran me over while reversing in a parking lot. Scratched her bumper though

RJprod · March 17th, 2013, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickjpass

I knew they were out to get me after a woman almost ran me over while reversing in a parking lot. Scratched her bumper though

Glad you're ok...

quicklooker · March 18th, 2013, 02:01 PM

I know I've only been riding approx 10 months, but I have had very few near-death experiences with cagers. The worst was maybe twice people have pulled a leftie in front of me but I was prepared for both. The last one I locked the rear a little bit because some teen in a Prius u-turned in front of me (out of a no u-turn turn).

I expected worse so I've been super paranoid since I've started. I'm not letting my guard down! That's just what the cagers want!

dave42 · March 19th, 2013, 02:26 PM

If cars are moving towards you, either slow down, speed up, or move away from them to put more distance between you and that big chunk of metal. You don't win anything by doing the stand your ground you shall not pass! thing aside from a possible trip to the hospital and a crunched up bike.

Slow down when you come up to an intersection. #9 on the Hurt Report's finding states "The most frequent accident configuration is the motorcycle proceeding straight then the automobile makes a left turn in front of the oncoming motorcycle".

Don't stay in a car's blind spot. If you can't see the driver's mug in his mirror, he can't see you. Even when you can see his face, he might not look at his mirror before moving. Accident avoidance goes both ways most of the time.

I stopped riding for a good 6 years before starting up again with the 250. After 8k miles I've had zero close-calls, and I don't exactly live in the middle of nowhere either (and I split lanes every chance I get). Your #1 responsibility when you're on the road is to keep your own ass in one piece. Don't think other people are gonna watch out for you; that's your job. Once you start acting that way everything will fall into place.

sk1l1ne · March 19th, 2013, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Watch how this guy almost died and there was nothing he could do about it

Link to original page on YouTube.

THIS GUY should have known better than to assume the driver in the car was done. And to speed up after him is ASKING to get killed.
Son, that car will pulverize you.
Check yo self fo you reck yo self fool

RJprod · March 20th, 2013, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave42

If cars are moving towards you, either slow down, speed up, or move away from them to put more distance between you and that big chunk of metal. You don't win anything by doing the stand your ground you shall not pass! thing aside from a possible trip to the hospital and a crunched up bike.

Slow down when you come up to an intersection. #9 on the Hurt Report's finding states "The most frequent accident configuration is the motorcycle proceeding straight then the automobile makes a left turn in front of the oncoming motorcycle".

Don't stay in a car's blind spot. If you can't see the driver's mug in his mirror, he can't see you. Even when you can see his face, he might not look at his mirror before moving. Accident avoidance goes both ways most of the time.

I stopped riding for a good 6 years before starting up again with the 250. After 8k miles I've had zero close-calls, and I don't exactly live in the middle of nowhere either (and I split lanes every chance I get). Your #1 responsibility when you're on the road is to keep your own ass in one piece. Don't think other people are gonna watch out for you; that's your job. Once you start acting that way everything will fall into place.

good advice

February 26th, 2013, 05:54 PM	#2
krolinked Nerd Name: Chris Location: Tujunga Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ducati Hyperstrada Posts: 672	Try to change your riding habits to accomodate and keep out of those potential accident situations, Always think : "What if this car does this, I'll do this if he does." always assume they will do something sudden! __________________________________________________ It doesn't LOOK that steep. But you can go first...

February 26th, 2013, 05:56 PM	#3
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	That is how it goes, so ride like your invisible. Welcome to level 1 riding Robenson! __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

February 26th, 2013, 06:04 PM	#4
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	You sound surprised __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

February 26th, 2013, 06:17 PM	#10
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Watch how this guy almost died and there was nothing he could do about it Link to original page on YouTube. __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

February 26th, 2013, 06:21 PM	#11
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Jiggles. I see your point, but I think your sarcasm might get lost here. RJprod, it's good that you saw this with your own eyes because motorcycles are just inherently more dangerous than cars. You have to ride defensively and be proactive in avoiding danger. That being said, don't over react to other traffic. Getting mad is just going to cloud your judgement for the rest of your ride. Road rage never ends well when a motorcycle is involved. Also, I'm of the opinion that if you're consistently getting into situations with traffic like this, you maybe need to evaluate your riding.
	1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.

February 26th, 2013, 05:46 PM	#1
RJprod ninjette.org member Name: Robenson Location: Tampa Join Date: Feb 2013 Motorcycle(s): 05 F4i.... Posts: 242	beware...They're really out to kill you....!!!! I used to think that the riders who complained about cagers trying to kill them on the road were exaggerating a bit, until I get a taste of it myself "just now". I picked up my bike from the mechanics a few hrs ago. it was running lean and the tank was rusty to the point where the bike was having a hard time running well. It runs great now.. I never experienced the true power of the bike until now.. being a new rider, I always thought the little hiccups was my fault.. anyway, that's another story for another time. on my way back from the mechanics, I stopped at a gas station to put some gas. that's when ** started to happen to me.. I had this guy merging into my line while he's on the **ing phone. I'm pretty sure if he looks to the side, he would've seen me.. it's like I was invisible to the sucker... as if that weren't enough, later in the same trip another guy merged into my lane again. this time I was doing 55 mph. I'm starting to think that people don't respect motorcyclists enough. from the look I got from that guy, it seemed like he underestimated the speed of the bike.. He really thought I wouldn't get to him that fast. he merged and stopped right in front of me. Thank God, I used to practice stopping with both brakes, and I was able to slow down enough... You don't know how bad and careless people are when driving until you get on a motorcycle. I've been riding for about a month if that counts for anything....

February 26th, 2013, 06:08 PM	#6
allanoue ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Al Location: York, Pa Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300..............2008 Ninja 500-sold...2009 Ninja 250-Crashed Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '14	1) you are invisible, it is not personal 2) if they do see you, they have no perspective of how fast you are traveling, most especially if you are accelerating faster then most cars. 3) out of 10,000 cars, one or two will be out to get you, just out of jail and/or on there way to jail Good news is it gets easy to avoid them all.

February 26th, 2013, 09:19 PM	#18
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February 26th, 2013, 09:58 PM	#19
Aggrotech ninjette.org sage Name: Justin Location: Fresno CA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 12' Ninja 250 Posts: 831	people in cars are generally stupid...its really that simple..yeah its a huge generalization, but when youre on a motorcycle and you see everything going on around you, you realize just how stupid these people are. Hell just 2 days ago i saw some dumb blonde bitch stuffing her face with a burrito AND on her phone at the same time, all while switching through 2 lanes of traffic, without using her turn signal...she almost got hit by some derpy redneck in a ford2500 (who was goin a good 20mph over.) Majority of people on the road should not be allowed anywhere near vehicles tbh.

February 27th, 2013, 11:36 AM	#20
Havok Internet Slut Name: Jeff Location: L.A. Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 FZ1, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	Ok who here didn't predict that black car moving over on him. It was obvious the guy just got on the freeway and was looking to merge to the fast lanes. Dude should have head checked the on ramp and just matched his speed to let the guy have room. Too busy blabbing into his mic

February 27th, 2013, 03:50 PM	#22
NDspd 1/4 English, 3/4 Kick Ass Name: Jeremy Location: Dayton, OH Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Triumph Speed Triple 955i, '05 Suzuki SV650S(retired), '11 Ninja 250R(sold) Posts: A lot.	Knew what was going to happen nearly immediately....I've been through that type of situation too many times, so I've learned what signs to look for. It also comes down to predicting what someone may do and then taking measures to get away in the event it really does happen. I never hang in people's blind spots, that's one of the biggest things to keep an eye on. But there will be sometimes you just can't predict people, you just have to be ready for them. As much as I would hate to, I profile drivers a lot...meaning I look at the type of vehicle, condition of the vehicle, race, age and what the driver is doing. I'm not racist at all, but no offense african american drivers here in savannah cause the most accidents. I'd like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but when most the "butt pucker" moments I've had, were caused by old people and African Americans. So knowing that, I apply my experience to avoid those types of drivers. Now if I go to Ohio, then it's all the soccer moms and red neck trucks. I just hate I have to be so mean to people when I ride, but I've got to protect myself. Ok, end of rant...keep your heads on a swivel guys!!

February 28th, 2013, 11:46 AM	#23
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	They're not trying to kill you. They're trying to kill Jiggles. You're just riding too close to him. Even though he's 2,800 miles away.

March 1st, 2013, 01:23 PM	#24
Gurk Done here. Name: - Location: Track Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	That guy in Jigglet's video is a pussy.

March 2nd, 2013, 08:58 AM	#25
iZapp former ninja 250'er Name: Geo Location: NE Ohio Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia 1000R, CRF450, CBR600RR tracktoy, Ninja 250 -- GONE!!!!! Posts: 153	on my daily commutes (i ride an Aprilia 1000 twin) i ride as though i'm on the track (kinda) - ya, probably a bit brisk and extreme, but FOCUSED. i think riding with that mentality heightens your senses and awareness, and removes the lacksidasical attitude that can get riders in trouble. i've been riding on the street for 32 years (holy crap) and can count the number of times "someone has tried to kill me" on one hand, and think it's mostly because i am actively LOOKING for those people while riding.

March 17th, 2013, 04:19 PM	#28
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	I knew they were out to get me after a woman almost ran me over while reversing in a parking lot. Scratched her bumper though __________________________________________________

March 18th, 2013, 02:01 PM	#30
quicklooker ninjette.org member Name: J Location: Dallas Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R '07 Posts: 81	I know I've only been riding approx 10 months, but I have had very few near-death experiences with cagers. The worst was maybe twice people have pulled a leftie in front of me but I was prepared for both. The last one I locked the rear a little bit because some teen in a Prius u-turned in front of me (out of a no u-turn turn). I expected worse so I've been super paranoid since I've started. I'm not letting my guard down! That's just what the cagers want!

March 19th, 2013, 02:26 PM	#31
dave42 ninjette.org guru Name: dave Location: Pasadena Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250, ZX6r, RSV4, Caponord Rally Posts: 267	If cars are moving towards you, either slow down, speed up, or move away from them to put more distance between you and that big chunk of metal. You don't win anything by doing the stand your ground you shall not pass! thing aside from a possible trip to the hospital and a crunched up bike. Slow down when you come up to an intersection. #9 on the Hurt Report's finding states "The most frequent accident configuration is the motorcycle proceeding straight then the automobile makes a left turn in front of the oncoming motorcycle". Don't stay in a car's blind spot. If you can't see the driver's mug in his mirror, he can't see you. Even when you can see his face, he might not look at his mirror before moving. Accident avoidance goes both ways most of the time. I stopped riding for a good 6 years before starting up again with the 250. After 8k miles I've had zero close-calls, and I don't exactly live in the middle of nowhere either (and I split lanes every chance I get). Your #1 responsibility when you're on the road is to keep your own ass in one piece. Don't think other people are gonna watch out for you; that's your job. Once you start acting that way everything will fall into place.

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