Gday from Hobart Tasmania!

86gpzxr · December 24th, 2016, 03:58 AM

Gday guys I have recently got my self a 86 gpz250r and a xr400 same year. Have a few parts for the gpz and am building a Frankenstein bike to... The gpz motor in the xr... I'll put some pics up soon. I have a few questions to. I have 2 wiring looms ones off my gpz other is either or zzr been hacked but has more then the bike loom. I'm stuck with no spark at coils. I will be thinning out the loom as I don't need lights but for now I just need spark. Any ideas will be grand. Stator wires have a 2 wire plug and a 3 wire plug. But one loom I have has the 3 plug and then a 4 plug I'm not real familiar with bike wiring but eager to have a crack

CC Cowboy · December 24th, 2016, 04:17 AM

86gpzxr! Glad to have you aboard...

CaliGrrl · December 24th, 2016, 09:36 PM

Welcome!

csmith12 · December 24th, 2016, 09:48 PM

Welcome!

86gpzxr · December 24th, 2016, 10:20 PM

Thanks for the welcome guys! Will upload some photos soon. I need to post a thread about wiring to.

snot · December 25th, 2016, 06:50 AM

Welcome

86gpzxr · December 25th, 2016, 05:55 PM

That's the gpz I got pretty cheap but it's a nasty project as there's lots missing and needed alot of stuff

That's the xr mocked up with the gpz motor. I'm pretty excited to pull it off

86gpzxr · December 25th, 2016, 05:57 PM

That's my gpz I picked up cheap but it's a nasty cheap as she needs lots of work and there's a lot missing

That's the xr with a gpz motor mocked up in there I'm excited to get her built just stuck on wiring atm

86gpzxr · December 25th, 2016, 06:00 PM

The radiator won't be sitting there either that's just where it sat at the time I will be making a new mount and changing the tank to get it all to suit

Alex · December 25th, 2016, 06:00 PM

If I can't copy (ctrl-c) the motor from one and paste it (ctrl-v) into the other, it's above my mechanical capability. But I wish you the best of luck!

86gpzxr · December 25th, 2016, 06:04 PM

Haha I like your motto mate. I love a project. I have another engine to go in the gpz to fix up. Just the wiring I have is getting to me atm due to no spark issue. But the swap is pretty easy with copy and paste setup. Only need to change a few things as you do to make it your own work haha just need to make engine mounts and spacers then fab an exhaust for it and fuel tank.. hardest atm will be the radiator due to the over flow and radiator it's self is big. The xr was air cooled so that's the other problem will lok good when she is done

csmith12 · December 25th, 2016, 09:26 PM

@Koala - I just remembered, there is chatter of a "Ladies Only" track day at Mid-Ohio next season. Perhaps that would be of interest. I will have a couple of coaches/staff meetings over the off season and keep you in the know if more develops.

Tango89er · December 26th, 2016, 04:38 PM

Wooo, another Australian!

Can't wait to see how your project turns out

86gpzxr · December 27th, 2016, 02:02 AM

I can't wait either just need to sort wiring to get it fired up then I will do all the fab for the engine mounts exhaust radiator and so on

taz · December 27th, 2016, 09:53 AM

WELCOME

VaFish · January 3rd, 2017, 10:47 AM

Welcome.

I loved Tasmania when I visited there.

Snake · January 29th, 2017, 07:55 AM

Hello and welcome!

JohnnyBravo · February 1st, 2017, 02:01 AM

I still get my dad to do most of my electrics

MLR · February 4th, 2017, 04:17 PM

For the expansion tank, I've been thinking, again, and yes I know thats dangerous, waterless coolant, from my understanding it does not need a expansion tank, or at least a much smaller and simpler setup.

I've been looking at swapping both my car and bike over.

I admit that more research and testing is needed on my part, I may do the bike first and monitor the effects it has on cooling and the expansion tank.

BTW, I am trying to convince the Minister of War and Finances that we should move to Tassie on retirement, I been there on holidays a few times and I love it

MLR · February 4th, 2017, 04:55 PM

From some googling it has a 7% expansion rate.

Correct me if Im wrong

If 250r has 1500ml (GPZ250R?) coolant and expansion rate is 7%

1500 x 0.07 = 105

Therefore, the capacity of the exansion tank must be at least 105ml, say 150ml.

In the end, you only need a expansion tank not a overflow tank, something the size of a juice box should do, thus eleveating the need for a large tank.

Well thats the theory anyways, practical?????

December 24th, 2016, 03:58 AM	#1
86gpzxr ninjette.org newbie Name: Sam Location: Tasmania Join Date: Dec 2016 Motorcycle(s): 86 gpz250r 86 xr400 both to become one Posts: 9	Gday from Hobart Tasmania! Gday guys I have recently got my self a 86 gpz250r and a xr400 same year. Have a few parts for the gpz and am building a Frankenstein bike to... The gpz motor in the xr... I'll put some pics up soon. I have a few questions to. I have 2 wiring looms ones off my gpz other is either or zzr been hacked but has more then the bike loom. I'm stuck with no spark at coils. I will be thinning out the loom as I don't need lights but for now I just need spark. Any ideas will be grand. Stator wires have a 2 wire plug and a 3 wire plug. But one loom I have has the 3 plug and then a 4 plug I'm not real familiar with bike wiring but eager to have a crack Last futzed with by 86gpzxr; December 24th, 2016 at 03:59 AM. Reason: Auto correct gday

December 24th, 2016, 04:17 AM	#2
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December 24th, 2016, 10:20 PM	#5
86gpzxr ninjette.org newbie Name: Sam Location: Tasmania Join Date: Dec 2016 Motorcycle(s): 86 gpz250r 86 xr400 both to become one Posts: 9	Thanks for the welcome guys! Will upload some photos soon. I need to post a thread about wiring to.

December 25th, 2016, 05:55 PM	#7
86gpzxr ninjette.org newbie Name: Sam Location: Tasmania Join Date: Dec 2016 Motorcycle(s): 86 gpz250r 86 xr400 both to become one Posts: 9	That's the gpz I got pretty cheap but it's a nasty project as there's lots missing and needed alot of stuff That's the xr mocked up with the gpz motor. I'm pretty excited to pull it off

December 25th, 2016, 05:57 PM	#8
86gpzxr ninjette.org newbie Name: Sam Location: Tasmania Join Date: Dec 2016 Motorcycle(s): 86 gpz250r 86 xr400 both to become one Posts: 9	That's my gpz I picked up cheap but it's a nasty cheap as she needs lots of work and there's a lot missing That's the xr with a gpz motor mocked up in there I'm excited to get her built just stuck on wiring atm

December 25th, 2016, 06:04 PM	#11
86gpzxr ninjette.org newbie Name: Sam Location: Tasmania Join Date: Dec 2016 Motorcycle(s): 86 gpz250r 86 xr400 both to become one Posts: 9	Haha I like your motto mate. I love a project. I have another engine to go in the gpz to fix up. Just the wiring I have is getting to me atm due to no spark issue. But the swap is pretty easy with copy and paste setup. Only need to change a few things as you do to make it your own work haha just need to make engine mounts and spacers then fab an exhaust for it and fuel tank.. hardest atm will be the radiator due to the over flow and radiator it's self is big. The xr was air cooled so that's the other problem will lok good when she is done

December 25th, 2016, 09:26 PM	#12
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	@Koala - I just remembered, there is chatter of a "Ladies Only" track day at Mid-Ohio next season. Perhaps that would be of interest. I will have a couple of coaches/staff meetings over the off season and keep you in the know if more develops. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

December 26th, 2016, 04:38 PM	#13
Tango89er ninjette.org member Name: Pete Location: Perth, Australia Join Date: Sep 2016 Motorcycle(s): '89 Ninja 250 (#3650) Posts: 78	Wooo, another Australian! Can't wait to see how your project turns out

December 27th, 2016, 02:02 AM	#14
86gpzxr ninjette.org newbie Name: Sam Location: Tasmania Join Date: Dec 2016 Motorcycle(s): 86 gpz250r 86 xr400 both to become one Posts: 9	I can't wait either just need to sort wiring to get it fired up then I will do all the fab for the engine mounts exhaust radiator and so on

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February 4th, 2017, 04:17 PM	#19
MLR ninjette.org member Name: Mark Location: Australia Join Date: Feb 2017 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R Posts: 219	For the expansion tank, I've been thinking, again, and yes I know thats dangerous, waterless coolant, from my understanding it does not need a expansion tank, or at least a much smaller and simpler setup. I've been looking at swapping both my car and bike over. I admit that more research and testing is needed on my part, I may do the bike first and monitor the effects it has on cooling and the expansion tank. BTW, I am trying to convince the Minister of War and Finances that we should move to Tassie on retirement, I been there on holidays a few times and I love it

February 4th, 2017, 04:55 PM	#20
MLR ninjette.org member Name: Mark Location: Australia Join Date: Feb 2017 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R Posts: 219	From some googling it has a 7% expansion rate. Correct me if Im wrong If 250r has 1500ml (GPZ250R?) coolant and expansion rate is 7% 1500 x 0.07 = 105 Therefore, the capacity of the exansion tank must be at least 105ml, say 150ml. In the end, you only need a expansion tank not a overflow tank, something the size of a juice box should do, thus eleveating the need for a large tank. Well thats the theory anyways, practical?????

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