Buy a demo days bike... yes/no?

tsdexter · February 22nd, 2014, 02:43 PM

I'm looking at buying a 2013 kawasaki zx-6r ABS... New would be $11,999.. I've found a dealer with a kawasaki demo days unit with 1,932km for $8,799 ... Is $3200 off worth it for a demo days bike? (also comes with frame sliders which don't look like they've ever been taken advantage of ie: doesn't look dropped)

I've never been on a demo days ride, but I know they're group rides so I doubt the people would be abusing the bike...I could be wrong though? And I assume kawasaki would do the proper maintenance in those 2k kilometers.

What do you think?

Brian · February 22nd, 2014, 02:46 PM

I'd say go for it. Wouldn't it be cleaner than any bike you would find on CL or for sale in your area?

tsdexter · February 22nd, 2014, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian

I'd say go for it. Wouldn't it be cleaner than any bike you would find on CL or for sale in your area?

That's what I'm thinking...I'm assuming it would be, theres certainly a better chance it wasn't stunted, dropped, abused then some random on of CL... But keep in mind I'm comparing it to buying new. I kind of want the comfort of knowing everything about the bike and every KM it's driven... so I was looking at new.. but I don't know if thats really $3200 important..

Brian · February 22nd, 2014, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tsdexter

That's what I'm thinking...I'm assuming it would be, theres certainly a better chance it wasn't stunted, dropped, abused then some random on of CL... But keep in mind I'm comparing it to buying new. I kind of want the comfort of knowing everything about the bike and every KM it's driven... so I was looking at new.. but I don't know if thats really $3200 important..

That's tough, but it's really on you to decide. If everything lines up in your mind (the color you wanted, if you're OK with the extra miles, if everything looks/works alright) I don't see a reason not to consider saving that amount of money, you could get plenty of gear or mods from the $3200 you saved, just something to consider.

It really will come down to your decision, but for me I'd say go for the "used" 6r if everything lines up in your head and making sure it's a good buy. If you have the money and are going to keep the bike for however long, buy it new. If you're thinking of upgrading (like most who get a 250 as their first bike), then it wouldn't be smart to buy it new.

bkh2 · February 22nd, 2014, 03:00 PM

If the demo days in Ontario are anything like they were in BC (Vancouver), the demo days are guided and extremely slow paced. If that's the case, the bike should only have seen fairly low RPMs. There may have been a few people who distance themselves from the group, then gun it, but the bike is meant to do that so it's really nothing to worry about. I'd say if this is the bike for which you are looking, go for it.

evidens83 · February 22nd, 2014, 03:36 PM

I would jump on it

Jono · February 22nd, 2014, 04:54 PM

Seems like a good deal. I've never participated in a demo day, but if I did, I would be reluctant to push the bike hard or abuse it. I'd be scared of crashing then having to pay for the damages. Not sure how that all works if you do crash a demo bike and I also don't want to find out. Haha. So what I'm saying is, It's most likely in better condition than that same bike on your local CL. Go for it!

adouglas · February 22nd, 2014, 05:01 PM

Good deal. Do it.

They don't allow demo day bikes to be abused. When I rode a ZX-6R a couple of years ago I never even hit 8k rpm.

dcj13 · February 22nd, 2014, 05:23 PM

I agree that it's a good deal. But be a hard-ass and go for $300 less than the asking price. What's the worst that can happen?

tsdexter · February 22nd, 2014, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dcj13

I agree that it's a good deal. But be a hard-ass and go for $300 less than the asking price. What's the worst that can happen?

Asking/financed through them is $9,799...$8,799 is cash (cheque, bank finance etc) price... Still ask for further $300? Guess it can't hurt.

SabreValkyrn · February 23rd, 2014, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bkh2

If the demo days in Ontario are anything like they were in BC (Vancouver), the demo days are guided and extremely slow paced. If that's the case, the bike should only have seen fairly low RPMs. There may have been a few people who distance themselves from the group, then gun it, but the bike is meant to do that so it's really nothing to worry about. I'd say if this is the bike for which you are looking, go for it.

One thing of note, the break-in process is extremely important under 100-300 miles. I purposefully didn't get the showroom Ninja 300 when I was looking, because idling or low revs is really bad for the engine prior to break in.

See http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm for more information.

allanoue · February 23rd, 2014, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SabreValkyrn

One thing of note, the break-in process is extremely important under 100-300 miles. I purposefully didn't get the showroom Ninja 300 when I was looking, because idling or low revs is really bad for the engine prior to break in.

See http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm for more information.

break in is over at the factory

jcgss77 · February 23rd, 2014, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tsdexter

Asking/financed through them is $9,799...$8,799 is cash (cheque, bank finance etc) price... Still ask for further $300? Guess it can't hurt.

If you are paying with cash, walk in with cash and lay it on the manager's table, for $8200 and say, "This is for the Ninja. Do you mind drawing up the paperwork?"

Of course, have a few extra hundred if he plays hardball, as long as you are serious.

It just might work.

nickjpass · February 23rd, 2014, 08:09 PM

Brand new zx6rs are going for 9699 here at one dealer.

tsdexter · February 24th, 2014, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by nickjpass

Brand new zx6rs are going for 9699 here at one dealer.

That'd be $10,700 Canadian, plus another $1000 for the ABS. So $8,799 still seems pretty good.

I'm thinking I'm going to go for it, the $3,200 savings is 2 years of insurance, a steering dampener and a slip-on...

Han Solo 1 · February 24th, 2014, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tsdexter

That'd be $10,700 Canadian, plus another $1000 for the ABS. So $8,799 still seems pretty good.

I'm thinking I'm going to go for it, the $3,200 savings is 2 years of insurance, a steering dampener and a slip-on...

Man, for ABS, that is a great deal. Go for it!!!!

Bigballsofpaint · February 24th, 2014, 08:53 AM

Was it their demo bike or an actual demo Day bike? There is a difference. My dealer had a demo bike and you could just freely sign up and take it for the day. Remember it still comes with a 1 year warranty as well from the dealer, which is nice. I was going to buy my local dealers demo bike but they wouldnt come down on the price, it was within 1,000 of the new one they had on the floor so i went elsewhere. But for a significant price difference off new i would consider it.

tsdexter · February 24th, 2014, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigballsofpaint

Was it their demo bike or an actual demo Day bike? There is a difference. My dealer had a demo bike and you could just freely sign up and take it for the day. Remember it still comes with a 1 year warranty as well from the dealer, which is nice. I was going to buy my local dealers demo bike but they wouldnt come down on the price, it was within 1,000 of the new one they had on the floor so i went elsewhere. But for a significant price difference off new i would consider it.

Yeah, I hear yah. It was purchased from Kawasaki Canada, so a demo days bike. This dealer doesn't even do demo rides on that bike so it can't be theirs. Also, pretty positive it was not from track demo days because they also have a non ABS demo which the edges of the tires look like they've been at the track whereas this one has clean smooth edges (plus who wants ABS at the track?)

JohnnyBravo · February 24th, 2014, 09:18 AM

I'd jump on that like a hound on a ham bone!

Redgeneral · February 24th, 2014, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tsdexter

I'm looking at buying a 2013 kawasaki zx-6r ABS... New would be $11,999.. I've found a dealer with a kawasaki demo days unit with 1,932km for $8,799 ... Is $3200 off worth it for a demo days bike? (also comes with frame sliders which don't look like they've ever been taken advantage of ie: doesn't look dropped)

I've never been on a demo days ride, but I know they're group rides so I doubt the people would be abusing the bike...I could be wrong though? And I assume kawasaki would do the proper maintenance in those 2k kilometers.

What do you think?

It sounds like a decent deal. Not great, but not bad either.

I know when I took a bike out on a demo ride, I definitely tried to put it through it's paces. I would test the brakes hard, I would accelerate hard and cycle through the gears to make sure the transmission wasn't clunky. Also I wasn't shy about potholes since I wanted to see how the suspension reacted to everyday riding on our ****** roads.

Just remember ~2,000kms is a hell of a lot of demos. Considering someone would probably not put more than 15-30kms per demo (at most).

When I bought my zx-6r I found a 2011 leftover with 0km out the door I paid just under $10k.

Bigballsofpaint · February 24th, 2014, 09:42 AM

I know at americade when i did the kawasaki demo the control riders were very adament about having the best demo. I didnt demo many other bikes, but many tickets could have been given out on that ride. They told us they were goign to make sure we knew how the bikes performed, a mix of twisties and highway. We were told not to get too far behind the group, as a result my friend was told to keep up on the 650 he was demo'ing. He was not going legal speeds before that haha.

Its the reason i bought the ninja 1000, so demo days definitely do work.

csmith12 · February 24th, 2014, 09:44 AM

hmmm....

tfkrocks · February 24th, 2014, 10:39 AM

I would go for it. Probably a much better condition machine than something similar on the used market.

Redgeneral · February 24th, 2014, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tsdexter

And I assume kawasaki would do the proper maintenance in those 2k kilometers.

What do you think?

I definitely wouldn't assume that. There really isn't any maintenance required before 2,000km. They might've changed the oil once, but other than the usual stuff you should be check before each ride, or at regular intervals (Oil levels, chain slack, tires etc.) it's probably never seen the inside of the mechanic's bay.

tsdexter · February 24th, 2014, 02:56 PM

Here's some pics and a video walkaround... It was a bit dark and cramped in there so not the greatest.. The only issue I noticed is the tiny little V shaped fairing on the left side has the clip broken so it's a little loose, I'll ask them to replace that before I buy, if they don't, it's only $51.

The second rear wheel shown in the video is the non-ABS version which I'm guessing came from a track demo days (this one did not) you can see the difference between the tires, as well, that one doesn't have the kawasaki extended warranty offered whereas this one does, so I'm almost certain it wasn't used at the track..

Anyone see anything bad in the pics/vid? I put a (refundable) deposit so it doesn't sell while I'm waiting on financing...

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MR2Aaron · February 24th, 2014, 03:28 PM

Holy huge pictures batman! I guarantee my monitor is in the top 95th percentile of monitors (by size) looking at this site today, and even I had to scroll all over the place to see those.

Anyway, if it hasn't obviously been crashed, I can't really imagine what else could be wrong with a bike that was owned by the manufacturer and only has 1200 miles on it. It hasn't been ridden enough for the maintenance to have been neglected.

I say it's a sweet deal - buy it.

Edit: It has spools on it. That means that it either comes with them, or someone put them on it, presumably so they could clean the chain or something.

Han Solo 1 · February 24th, 2014, 04:10 PM

Can you post those pics as attachments?

They are way too big. Can't tell what I'm looking at.

CC Cowboy · February 24th, 2014, 04:59 PM

That bike's too big for you.

tsdexter · February 24th, 2014, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Han Solo 1

Can you post those pics as attachments?

They are way too big. Can't tell what I'm looking at.

fixed.

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Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

That bike's too big for you.

why do you say that?

Han Solo 1 · February 24th, 2014, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tsdexter

fixed.

Great, now if you could just rotate them. . . .

rasta · February 24th, 2014, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tsdexter

why do you say that?

He was probably making a joke due to the gigantinormous pictures

Also...buy that bike right now. Cause if you don't, I will

csmith12 · February 25th, 2014, 08:29 AM

CC Cowboy · February 25th, 2014, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tsdexter

fixed.

why do you say that?

Did you see those pictures?

Now it's way to small. You need something right on the middle.

DEFY · February 25th, 2014, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

Did you see those pictures?

Now it's way to small. You need something right on the middle.

Click Image for larger version lol

yea yea I know you don't want to have to do that.

beniblanco · February 25th, 2014, 11:33 AM

Just letting you know there are some dealers in the GTA asking around the mid to high $9000 mark new.

Sirref · February 25th, 2014, 11:40 AM

Yea, I vote jump on it and don't look back. The bike looks good.

beniblanco · February 25th, 2014, 11:54 AM

I would have to say don't do it.

With the 2014 models out a lot of dealers have dropped the 2013 prices on the zx6r they are all going around $9,900 or slightly less you can get a brand new one for just a little bit more money.

cbinker · February 25th, 2014, 11:58 AM

Go for it, it is more then likely well taken care of and past the break in period.

tsdexter · February 25th, 2014, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by beniblanco

Just letting you know there are some dealers in the GTA asking around the mid to high $9000 mark new.

Quote:

Originally Posted by beniblanco

I would have to say don't do it.

With the 2014 models out a lot of dealers have dropped the 2013 prices on the zx6r they are all going around $9,900 or slightly less you can get a brand new one for just a little bit more money.

Thanks. I'm seeing $9,999 on the new ones but they've all been non ABS (normally an additional ~$1000 or $1200 I forget) and after calling around I've yet to find one in stock.. A few non ABS but no ABS.

beniblanco · February 25th, 2014, 12:32 PM

I was looking around as well but the abs is not as important to me. Keep looking around you might find a 2013 new and discounted with abs. If not I would say try and haggle the dealer down a bit more on that demo or get him to throw something in.

If it was me personally I would not touch the demo at that price and just go after a non abs that is new and with a new warranty. With the demo bike I would think you might have a hard time on claims due to its history. Abs is nice to have but you would still be fine on the bike with out it.

February 22nd, 2014, 02:43 PM	#1
tsdexter ninjette.org member Name: Thomas Location: Ontario Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R - Kawi Green Posts: 138	Buy a demo days bike... yes/no? I'm looking at buying a 2013 kawasaki zx-6r ABS... New would be $11,999.. I've found a dealer with a kawasaki demo days unit with 1,932km for $8,799 ... Is $3200 off worth it for a demo days bike? (also comes with frame sliders which don't look like they've ever been taken advantage of ie: doesn't look dropped) I've never been on a demo days ride, but I know they're group rides so I doubt the people would be abusing the bike...I could be wrong though? And I assume kawasaki would do the proper maintenance in those 2k kilometers. What do you think?

February 22nd, 2014, 05:01 PM	#8
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February 23rd, 2014, 08:09 PM	#14
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February 24th, 2014, 09:44 AM	#22
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February 24th, 2014, 02:56 PM	#25
tsdexter ninjette.org member Name: Thomas Location: Ontario Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R - Kawi Green Posts: 138	Here's some pics and a video walkaround... It was a bit dark and cramped in there so not the greatest.. The only issue I noticed is the tiny little V shaped fairing on the left side has the clip broken so it's a little loose, I'll ask them to replace that before I buy, if they don't, it's only $51. The second rear wheel shown in the video is the non-ABS version which I'm guessing came from a track demo days (this one did not) you can see the difference between the tires, as well, that one doesn't have the kawasaki extended warranty offered whereas this one does, so I'm almost certain it wasn't used at the track.. Anyone see anything bad in the pics/vid? I put a (refundable) deposit so it doesn't sell while I'm waiting on financing... Link to original page on YouTube. IMG_3516.jpg IMG_3518.jpg IMG_3519.jpg IMG_3520.jpg IMG_3521.jpg IMG_3522.jpg IMG_3534.jpg IMG_3533.jpg IMG_3532.jpg IMG_3531.jpg IMG_3530.jpg IMG_3529.jpg IMG_3528.jpg IMG_3527.jpg IMG_3526.jpg IMG_3525.jpg IMG_3523.jpg IMG_3524.jpg Last futzed with by tsdexter; February 24th, 2014 at 05:05 PM.

February 22nd, 2014, 02:46 PM	#2
Brian ninjette.org sage Name: Brian Location: Boston MA Join Date: Nov 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08 250R Posts: 639	I'd say go for it. Wouldn't it be cleaner than any bike you would find on CL or for sale in your area?

February 22nd, 2014, 03:00 PM	#5
bkh2 ninjette.org guru Name: Ben Location: R'lyeh Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 GSXR 750; 1983 CB750SC Posts: 277	If the demo days in Ontario are anything like they were in BC (Vancouver), the demo days are guided and extremely slow paced. If that's the case, the bike should only have seen fairly low RPMs. There may have been a few people who distance themselves from the group, then gun it, but the bike is meant to do that so it's really nothing to worry about. I'd say if this is the bike for which you are looking, go for it.

February 22nd, 2014, 03:36 PM	#6
evidens83 bike noob Name: ev Location: WA Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250r(sold) 04 Yamaha R6 Posts: 94	I would jump on it

February 22nd, 2014, 04:54 PM	#7
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Seems like a good deal. I've never participated in a demo day, but if I did, I would be reluctant to push the bike hard or abuse it. I'd be scared of crashing then having to pay for the damages. Not sure how that all works if you do crash a demo bike and I also don't want to find out. Haha. So what I'm saying is, It's most likely in better condition than that same bike on your local CL. Go for it!

February 22nd, 2014, 05:23 PM	#9
dcj13 Participant Name: Dave Location: South of Seattle Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): '94 K75 std Posts: Too much. MOTM - Aug '15	I agree that it's a good deal. But be a hard-ass and go for $300 less than the asking price. What's the worst that can happen?

February 24th, 2014, 08:53 AM	#17
Bigballsofpaint ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jay Location: CT Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2015 636 ABS - 69 Honda 305 Posts: A lot.	Was it their demo bike or an actual demo Day bike? There is a difference. My dealer had a demo bike and you could just freely sign up and take it for the day. Remember it still comes with a 1 year warranty as well from the dealer, which is nice. I was going to buy my local dealers demo bike but they wouldnt come down on the price, it was within 1,000 of the new one they had on the floor so i went elsewhere. But for a significant price difference off new i would consider it.

February 24th, 2014, 09:18 AM	#19
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	I'd jump on that like a hound on a ham bone!

February 24th, 2014, 09:42 AM	#21
Bigballsofpaint ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jay Location: CT Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2015 636 ABS - 69 Honda 305 Posts: A lot.	I know at americade when i did the kawasaki demo the control riders were very adament about having the best demo. I didnt demo many other bikes, but many tickets could have been given out on that ride. They told us they were goign to make sure we knew how the bikes performed, a mix of twisties and highway. We were told not to get too far behind the group, as a result my friend was told to keep up on the 650 he was demo'ing. He was not going legal speeds before that haha. Its the reason i bought the ninja 1000, so demo days definitely do work.

February 24th, 2014, 10:39 AM	#23
tfkrocks ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rebecca Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 w/ ABS, 2014 NC700X, 2008 Ninja 250 (sold), 2002 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '18, Sep '13	I would go for it. Probably a much better condition machine than something similar on the used market.

February 24th, 2014, 03:28 PM	#26
MR2Aaron ninjette.org member Name: Aaron Location: Pflugerville, TX Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Kawasaki Ninja 250 Posts: 154	Holy huge pictures batman! I guarantee my monitor is in the top 95th percentile of monitors (by size) looking at this site today, and even I had to scroll all over the place to see those. Anyway, if it hasn't obviously been crashed, I can't really imagine what else could be wrong with a bike that was owned by the manufacturer and only has 1200 miles on it. It hasn't been ridden enough for the maintenance to have been neglected. I say it's a sweet deal - buy it. Edit: It has spools on it. That means that it either comes with them, or someone put them on it, presumably so they could clean the chain or something.

February 24th, 2014, 04:10 PM	#27
Han Solo 1 ninjette.org guru Name: Han Solo Location: Albuquerque Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): Had a 2008 Ninja 250, til some low-life stole it. Now riding a 2013 red cbr250. Posts: 274	Can you post those pics as attachments? They are way too big. Can't tell what I'm looking at.

February 24th, 2014, 04:59 PM	#28
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	That bike's too big for you. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

February 25th, 2014, 08:29 AM	#32
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	__________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School
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February 25th, 2014, 11:33 AM	#35
beniblanco ninjette.org member Name: B Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 black Ninja 250r Posts: 114	Just letting you know there are some dealers in the GTA asking around the mid to high $9000 mark new.

February 25th, 2014, 11:40 AM	#36
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	Yea, I vote jump on it and don't look back. The bike looks good.

February 25th, 2014, 11:54 AM	#37
beniblanco ninjette.org member Name: B Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 black Ninja 250r Posts: 114	I would have to say don't do it. With the 2014 models out a lot of dealers have dropped the 2013 prices on the zx6r they are all going around $9,900 or slightly less you can get a brand new one for just a little bit more money.

February 25th, 2014, 11:58 AM	#38
cbinker Track Clown Name: Chris Location: Kingman, AZ Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R, 21 MV F3 800, Kawasaki 400 build Posts: A lot. MOTM - Sep '15	Go for it, it is more then likely well taken care of and past the break in period. __________________________________________________ TEAM ALFALFA www.apexassassins.com

February 25th, 2014, 12:32 PM	#40
beniblanco ninjette.org member Name: B Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 black Ninja 250r Posts: 114	I was looking around as well but the abs is not as important to me. Keep looking around you might find a 2013 new and discounted with abs. If not I would say try and haggle the dealer down a bit more on that demo or get him to throw something in. If it was me personally I would not touch the demo at that price and just go after a non abs that is new and with a new warranty. With the demo bike I would think you might have a hard time on claims due to its history. Abs is nice to have but you would still be fine on the bike with out it.

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