January 25th, 2018, 01:16 PM | #1 |
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Brake pads
So im gettting ready to rebuild my calipers, order stainless lines, and get some pads for my track bike build. I was looking into ebc HH pads. I had these on my R6 and loved them. I believe I have found the number for the front is FA129HH. But I can find the number for the rear. Is it the same? Different. Thank you. Worst case im sure I can get by with the OEM ones that are on the rear already, but Id like to upgrade if possible.
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January 25th, 2018, 01:25 PM | #2 |
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Hold up, I am pretty sure I am wrong about that. Sorry, Lemme look at my numbers.
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January 25th, 2018, 02:10 PM | #3 |
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Ah found what I bought a long time ago.
FA129HH - front FA129V - rear I am not 100% sure, but when I looked (as you are now) I also didn't find a sintered rear pad. The fa129v is semi-sintered. Some brake manufacturers do not produce a sintered pad for the rear at all. :\ Maybe I missed it but just sharing what I purchased. Maybe others will chime in soon.
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January 25th, 2018, 02:29 PM | #4 |
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I just installed the HH pads this week. I can confirm that the front is FA129HH . I left the rear as stock ( so as not to lock up the rear on hard braking ).
BTW, for the front SS brake line, I ordered ( but have not yet installed ) the Galfer FK003D249 F.
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January 25th, 2018, 02:33 PM | #5 |
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You may find this info helpful.
Stainless steel brake lines upgrade https://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Stainl..._lines_upgrade Brake Pads https://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/What_r..._I_consider%3F
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January 25th, 2018, 04:00 PM | #6 | |||
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On my 250 I have a wave rotor, and run EBC extreme HH, and on my 500 I have EBC full floating rotor and extreme HH pads.
I've left the rear OEM, in a hard stop aka panic stop the front brake does 99% of the stopping power, I've actually had the rear tyre off the ground when I practice my panic stops. Here's my write-up on brakes, I recommend that every time you change your pads, you service the calipers, he's my write-up to help you out. It should fix your initial problem, and keep your calipers in top working order. Quote:
I also recommend flush and fill with new brake fluid, also I'd go with 5.1DOT. No matter what kind of brake fluid you choose, always periodically flush and fill with new fluid. This is the one I use https://m.motul.com/ca/en-us/product...-1-brake-fluid Also inspect the brake lines, replace is needed, http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Stainle..._lines_upgrade Quote:
On my 91 EX500 I have Spiegler, in orange to match that bike. Quote:
Buy quality pads,I personally recommend EBC brand either the HH, or the Extreme HH. EBC full floating rotor, replace the OEM rubber line with a stainless steel braided brake line, cheaper than replacing them with OEM. On my 500 I have Spiegler line http://www.spieglerusa.com/brakes/cy...line-kits.html On my Ninja 250 i went with Venhill http://www.venhillusa.com/products.html With all that, it will stop on a dime, and leave you nine cents in change. look here http://ebcbrakes.com/products/motorcycle/ And also read this, http://www.ex-500.com/wiki/index.php...otors_and_Pads That should answer any questions you might have. Below is a picture of my brake setup on my 500 EBC full floating rotor, titanium caliper bolts, rotor bolts and banjo bolt. Ninja 250 Wave rotor, titanium caliper bolts, rotor bolts and banjo Bolt.
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January 25th, 2018, 04:19 PM | #7 |
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Thanks for the numbers and advise. I will def be rebuilding/cleaning up both calipers, and doing stainless lines. Looks like I might just leave the rears stock for now. Trying to do a track day ninja build for under $1000.
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January 25th, 2018, 04:38 PM | #8 |
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Track bike can totally be done for not much at all. Suspension upgrades makes HUGE difference.
- stiffer fork springs for your weight off eBay with matching thicker fork oil. - rear-shock from new-gen bike - wheels from new-gen bike lets you use some very sticky rubber not available in pre-gen sizes. |
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January 25th, 2018, 04:46 PM | #9 |
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Well I have rebuilt my forks with new seals and oil. Prob going to splurge on some sonic springs, I have a zx600 rear shock with fresh oil. And for at least the first season to save money and make sure I enjoy it. Im going to stick with the stock wheels. I doubt I have the skill to need to upgrade to super sticky tires.
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January 25th, 2018, 04:51 PM | #10 |
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Yeah, I learned most in beginning by using stock tyres. Much more forgiving and slides easier and longer, giving me chance to catch it. Sticky tyres may have higher limit, but also goes over that limit quickly and suddenly. One moment, they're sticking like mad, then they'll slide just 6" and you're on ground with no warning.
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January 25th, 2018, 04:59 PM | #11 | |
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January 25th, 2018, 08:15 PM | #12 |
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Cool! For a budget track day build, you can skip the steel line for the rear. Unless your riding style lends itself to using the rear brake, the only time you will need it is advanced levels of riding, in the paddock or in the grass. lol Also, the stock rear pads will be just fine for a track day as well.
My sig has an awesome list of tracks all over the continental US. As far as the orgs go, I hope someone near you can point you in a direction that helps you the most. As far as tire choices go for your stock wheels, get you a set of sport demons and roll out. They are great for a first track day. Not super sticky, with a low breaking point, but not the stockers either. For the most part, the STOCK tires SUCK for a track day, but some riders have got a knee down on them. YMMV, imho... overbuy by one level of tire stickiness but don't go crazy and get 125 slicks.
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January 26th, 2018, 07:44 AM | #13 | |
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January 26th, 2018, 05:49 PM | #14 |
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i left the rear pads stock. those suckers still look brand new.
thunderhill is really nice, and i really like pacific track time, when you go let us know, i try to hang around jack ryan at the track, |
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January 26th, 2018, 06:07 PM | #17 |
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When it comes to brakes, when in doubt, throw it out, and replace. In the case of the brake lines, aftermarket is going to be cheaper than OEM, even if you go with Stainless Steel braided lines.
I did replace them on both of mine, just due to the age of the OEM ones. With that said, you won't be using to rear as much/heavy as the front. I'd be sure make the front is 200% right in any case. On my 91 EX500 it has drum rear, which is good, and I've installed the EBC grooved shoes on it. But I've invested in the front brake system as I've stated above, and it's money well spent without a doubt. The best bang for your bucks is suspension upgrade, it's a total different bike when it's setup and dialed in for your weight and riding style, and it's cheap enough to do. Especially if you just cut and shim the front springs, and add heavier fork oil. Add a rear shock from a NewGen 250 or 300, and your set for cheap cash.
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January 31st, 2018, 06:07 PM | #19 |
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oh jack im ready for the track, cant wait.
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