July 20th, 2013, 06:43 PM | #1 |
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Took MSF, question about license
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I just came back today from my second day of the BRC and I had an absolute blast. However, I am confused on the license process. I'm aware that they send me a certificate in the mail that I take to the DMV. But will this certificate get me my learner's permit or the actual license? I am aware that I must also take the writing test. Note: I am in California and am 18 years old. |
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July 20th, 2013, 06:52 PM | #2 |
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Written test + certificate = provisional license. That means for the first 12 months You may not drive at night, on the freeway, or have any passengers with you.
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July 20th, 2013, 06:55 PM | #3 |
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since i was 21 when i got my license, i just went in with my certificate, completed the written and when i got my permit it showed both my car and motorcycle license. Didnt look any further than that. Had passengers, rode around at night..pretty much did everything like any other person would do on any other day. When i got pulled over for speeding the cop didnt say anything and let me off without even a verbal warning.
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July 20th, 2013, 07:04 PM | #4 |
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when a friend and i did mine, both 19, we walked into the dmv, took the test for the m1 license as well as renew our class c and we both got a license. a friend of mind did hes a month later and ended up with a 6 month permit. so im not really sure. this friend who had gotten a permit instead of a license is 2 days older than me so i cant explain the reasoning behind it.
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July 20th, 2013, 07:44 PM | #5 | |
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July 20th, 2013, 07:49 PM | #6 |
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So is it possible for me to get a license? Only reason I ask is because I am going out of state for college this fall and I would like to have an actual license instead of having to deal with "will this permit work in other states, etc."
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July 20th, 2013, 07:52 PM | #7 |
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July 20th, 2013, 07:57 PM | #8 | |
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Make it perfectly clear that you've taken the MSF, the msf certificate exempts you from taking the driving course for your M1 and you'd like to take your written M1 AND C1 at the same time, so you can have your license. I had to break it all down for the fcktards at dmv to figure it out and even then they ****ed up my temporary... |
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July 20th, 2013, 08:13 PM | #9 | |
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July 20th, 2013, 08:18 PM | #10 | |
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July 20th, 2013, 08:21 PM | #11 | |
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July 20th, 2013, 08:25 PM | #12 |
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id study a little unless ur sure u got it. theres a few copys of the test on youtube seeing as how ur in cali. neither test is hard if u are competent (not saying u arent). the provisional vs non provisional depends on who u have at the counter im assuming. mine wasnt
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July 20th, 2013, 08:28 PM | #13 | |
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July 20th, 2013, 08:29 PM | #14 | |
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Since you're under 21 i do believe you're going to have to have a permit for 6months. Although there are restrictions on the permit as long as you arent acting stupid on the bike you'll be completely fine. |
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July 20th, 2013, 08:32 PM | #15 |
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I am 18 (almost 19), and I went in to the DMV with my DL389 (MSF completion certificate) and applied for my M1 license.
The website says if you are under 21 you are supposed to hold a motorcycle permit for 6 months before you can have the license. However when I went in, I took the written motorcycle test, gave them my certificate, and they issued me a motorcycle license. I never had to have the permit.. So I honestly don't know. I'm going to go with what @ADoMinGu3z said, I probably got the license because the people at the DMV don't know how to do their jobs. But I'm okay with it, no permit = no restrictions You might as well go into your DMV and try and get the license. If they will give it to you take it. If they make you get the permit then that sucks :P
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July 20th, 2013, 08:34 PM | #16 | |
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July 20th, 2013, 08:37 PM | #17 |
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I hope you do to! Good luck with it!
Like I said.. just go in and fill out the form and tell them you are applying for the license. Give them the certificate (thus waiving the driving portion), and take the written test, and you'll probably get it. I would (if you haven't already) read the motorcycle handbook that the DMV puts out. The WHOLE thing. The test I took had some weirdly worded questions that made it a little difficult. Just read through it and you should be fine. GL
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July 20th, 2013, 08:49 PM | #18 | |
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be careful on the wording. i failed my MC written twice due to the wording. even though i marked the right answer (answer provided in the DMV book,) they said it was still the wrong fckn answer. that seems to get alot of people though.. |
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July 20th, 2013, 09:44 PM | #19 | |
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July 20th, 2013, 09:48 PM | #20 | |
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No. You'll get the certificate in the mail from the MSF course, and then you'll have to fill out the DL44 at the DMV, which is just the application form. They do have the handbook online, or you can go in and pick one up. It's your preference. Personally, I went to my DMV and just grabbed one. It made it easier cause I could carry it around and read it. It's a small paperback book. California DMV Handbooks That's the online versions.
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July 20th, 2013, 09:51 PM | #21 | |
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Good luck on the test, and hope to see you out riding soon
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July 25th, 2013, 04:06 PM | #23 |
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July 25th, 2013, 04:07 PM | #24 |
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It makes it easier if you have an appointment, but since you are just taking the written test then no I don't think you do.
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July 25th, 2013, 04:11 PM | #25 |
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Alright. Well I scheduled an appointment for the first available date (August 13) so I am hoping they can just take me tomorrow, even if that means waiting an hour or two.
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July 25th, 2013, 04:13 PM | #26 |
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Good luck on the test!
If you haven't read the book, like I said, go give it a read tonight.
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July 25th, 2013, 04:14 PM | #27 |
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Here in California you always want to make an appointment, it cuts your wait time down significantly.
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July 25th, 2013, 04:16 PM | #28 |
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@IdRatherDrum @ChaoSS is right, but if you can manage to get there and get in line before the doors even open, sometimes you can get out in not too much time.
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July 25th, 2013, 04:21 PM | #29 | |
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But the individual DMV matters as well. At my local one, you can get in without an appointment. When you get there you get in line to get a number, and there are two lines, one for people with appointments and one for those without. The line without appointments is always loner, and when they get their number they usually have a longer wait until their number is called, but they will be seen. I once tried to go to the DMV in Hanford, and they had the two lines, but only one person taking care of the lines, and if anyone was in the appointment line they dealt with them first. I got there, got in the non appointment line, and had about 20 people in front of me. A full hour later, I gave up and left, as only one person in front of me had been seen, there was always someone in the appointment line and the non appointment line simply was not moving, at all. |
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July 25th, 2013, 07:20 PM | #30 | |
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The DMVs around here have real time wait times listed on their website.
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July 25th, 2013, 10:13 PM | #32 |
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You Cali guys have sucky DMV's. I waited 3-5mins once at my local DMV and they said "sorry for the wait".
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UPDATE: @Driddle @ChaoSS @csmith12 I was in and out of the DMV in less than an hour. I believe they gave me my full on license. Passed the M1 test with flying colors, and missed one question on the C1 test. It's probably not provisional right? Because the lady punched a whole in my current drivers license and said my new one would come in the mail within a few weeks. Last futzed with by IdRatherDrum; July 26th, 2013 at 09:36 AM. |
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July 26th, 2013, 09:37 AM | #35 |
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If you made an appointment it shouldn't take that long. Also, make sure you have everything applicable on this page: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/checklists/mc.htm
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You got your commercial license as well? If you turned in your certificate and passed the M1 written test then you should have an M1 license.
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Well, technically there is a commercial class C, but it's not common. A Class C is just the regular license. Not sure why everyone is saying C1 though. Motorcycles are broken up into M1 and M2 but class C isn't. |
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July 26th, 2013, 05:35 PM | #39 |
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i got a question that on topic, i went and took the advance msf class here in tennessee and aced it, first perfect 100/100 in the past few years. someone told me i could just take the papers up there and walk out with a motorcycle stamp, is that true? im 27 btw. also the instructors have called me and asked if i wanted to teach up there, they said i could make something like 50-200 a weekend but i would need 1 last class. think its worth it, or is it a jip trying to get me to pay for more classes, the class was called instructor something or other.
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Oh duh. My license says CM1.. I dont know why I was thinking that's commercial.
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