Have you ever evaded a cop before on your ninja?

[jackliu239]

Originally Posted by cbinker

No, when i am coming to the intersection, I scan both sides and see which vehicles are inching forward that could pose a threat to me, during that time i also notice what type of vehicle it is. I also am aware of my surroundings at all times when on a bike, you might want to gain a few more years of experience of reading traffic and identifying the dangers around you.

Then in this case, are you a Jedi in disguise? When you are riding 40+ mph especially crossing a yellow, without slowing down, you have the ability to scan multi-lanes of traffics at the intersection on both side of you, make split decision at the very last minutes on whatever to do emergency stop.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by jackliu239

Then in this case, are you a Jedi in disguise? When you are riding 40+ mph especially crossing a yellow, without slowing down, you have the ability to scan multi-lanes of traffics at the intersection on both side of you, make split decision at the very last minutes on whatever to do emergency stop.

It is called experience. It will come to you also if you keep riding.

[jackliu239]

Originally Posted by allanoue

It is called experience. It will come to you also if you keep riding.

So, if the road is milti-lane, you can see the cars being blocked behind the cars to front of you? Can you teach me this trick?

edit.. oh yeah, also forget to mention that there are multi-story building at the intersection blocking the view as well.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by jackliu239

So, if the road is milti-lane, you can see the cars being blocked behind the cars to front of you? Can you teach me this trick?

edit.. oh yeah, also forget to mention that there are multi-story building at the intersection blocking the view as well.

Slow down at intersections where visibility is poor. Not speed up.

[jackliu239]

Originally Posted by allanoue

Slow down at intersections where visibility is poor. Not speed up.

Yes, this part I get from your previous post, it was good advice.

But I just don't see how you can have this superhuman sense to see all the cars in the intersections going 40mph, see behind cars behind cars, see cars behind buildings.

[ninjamunky85]

Most interceptions ever.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by jackliu239

Yes, this part I get from your previous post, it was good advice.

But I just don't see how you can have this superhuman sense to see all the cars in the intersections going 40mph, see behind cars behind cars, see cars behind buildings.

Do this test and post your score in that thread
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26452

[80MPHdownhill]

Originally Posted by ninjamunky85

Most interceptions ever.

He's the Mark Sanchez of motorcycling.

[jackliu239]

Originally Posted by 80MPHdownhill

He's the Mark Sanchez of motorcycling.

lol, does Ninja 250 considered to be a scooter?

[alex.s]

the other day after murdering some hookers, i stole a cop car before running down random people for no reason. after the FBI was after me i decided the heat was too hot so i escaped by driving the cop car over a waterfall, then swimming out through the underwater door so the copters couldn't see me. then i swam into an underwater sewer grate (i had my gillyweed so i was able to breath sustainably underwater) once i made it up the sewer system i figured i would take the direct route and entered my house through the toilet. those cops never saw it coming!

i got bored after awhile and turned off the xbox.

[Sirref]

Originally Posted by jackliu239

Then in this case, are you a Jedi in disguise? When you are riding 40+ mph especially crossing a yellow, without slowing down, you have the ability to scan multi-lanes of traffics at the intersection on both side of you, make split decision at the very last minutes on whatever to do emergency stop.

it's not a hard skill to learn, if you ride in an area with a lot of vehicles then you pick it up pretty easily, it gets even easier if you go from said area to a more rural area with less vehicles to identify.

[JohnnyBravo]

Tickets are cheaper than the felony for running from the cops

[JBizzle]

I've been in stopped traffic (major 3 lane road, backed up for about a mile or two) sitting in my leather suit baking in the Florida sun.

Decided to slowly lane split at about 5-10mph through a bunch of parked cars instead of dehydrating.

I was in the right lane and passed by a cop that was all the way over in the left lane, guess he saw me and turned his lights on. Kept doing my thing and he shut his lights off after 5-10 seconds. Wouldn't really count this as evading, maybe ignoring him flashing his lights as a warning.

[cbinker]

Originally Posted by jackliu239

Then in this case, are you a Jedi in disguise? When you are riding 40+ mph especially crossing a yellow, without slowing down, you have the ability to scan multi-lanes of traffics at the intersection on both side of you, make split decision at the very last minutes on whatever to do emergency stop.

it is not a jedi mind trick, it is simple calculations, think of traveling at about 1.5 feet per second for every mile per hour. at 40 mph you are traveling about 60 feet per second, the idea is to be scanning 3-4 seconds ahead of you. so you should be looking 180-240 feet in front of you. are you able to figure out what 180-240 feet is for a good reference? 180 feed=60 yards over half the length of a football field, 240 is 80 yards just under the length of a football field.
City Blocks can average roughly 260 - 300 feet. My estimate would be you should be looking at a minimum of a block ahead, and have already developed a plan on which vehicles at the intersection pose the major threats.

Vehicles in left turn lane coming towards you is a high priority as is a vehicle to your right(perpendicular) in the far right turn lane. Once that light turns yellow, that should be a trigger that you need to MAINTAIN Speed or SLOW down and be ready for one of those vehicles to cross your path.

[Mocha Man]

I tend to always go through yellow lights on my bike. I am capable of stopping quickly but I'd rather not take the risk of locking up the rear

[ninjamunky85]

Originally Posted by JBizzle

I've been in stopped traffic (major 3 lane road, backed up for about a mile or two) sitting in my leather suit baking in the Florida sun.

Decided to slowly lane split at about 5-10mph through a bunch of parked cars instead of dehydrating.

I was in the right lane and passed by a cop that was all the way over in the left lane, guess he saw me and turned his lights on. Kept doing my thing and he shut his lights off after 5-10 seconds. Wouldn't really count this as evading, maybe ignoring him flashing his lights as a warning.

Evade is such a "harsh word", let's just say you didn't see him.

[ninjamunky85]

Originally Posted by ninjamunky85

(I'm trying to learn to be more responsible on the street, but it's too much fun.)

Riding home from school yesterday and I had the furthest right lane open for as far as I could see, which never happens, so I opened it up. Saw 106 before I had to slow down, passed a bunch of cars. This is the highest speed I've seen since I changed the front sprocket to the 15t (which should give an accurate speed). btw I was on the 300

Is this sooo wrong?...

[Whiskey]

Originally Posted by Mocha Man

I tend to always go through yellow lights on my bike. I am capable of stopping quickly but I'd rather not take the risk of locking up the rear

That's the bit that will get you T boned.
What's behind you? What's going to jump the lights?
adjust your plan accordingly.

[cbinker]

Originally Posted by Mocha Man

I tend to always go through yellow lights on my bike. I am capable of stopping quickly but I'd rather not take the risk of locking up the rear

I may not be understanding you correctly here, but the front brake offers 60-70% of stopping power, u should use it.

[allanoue]

front brake vs back brake

discuss

[JBizzle]

Originally Posted by ninjamunky85

Riding home from school yesterday and I had the furthest right lane open for as far as I could see, which never happens, so I opened it up. Saw 106 before I had to slow down, passed a bunch of cars. This is the highest speed I've seen since I changed the front sprocket to the 15t (which should give an accurate speed). btw I was on the 300

Is this sooo wrong?...

It's only wrong if you get caught but damn those 300's are quick I've barely gotten my 250 to 100mph. But on the other hand my CBR will do that in 2nd gear...

[Mocha Man]

Originally Posted by Whiskey

That's the bit that will get you T boned.
What's behind you? What's going to jump the lights?
adjust your plan accordingly.

I'm talking about if I'm just a few feet from the line then I'll just go through the light (like most drivers) but I'm not going to slam on them just to stop for the red at that point.

[Mocha Man]

Originally Posted by cbinker

I may not be understanding you correctly here, but the front brake offers 60-70% of stopping power, u should use it.

Sorry, I put that wrong. I use both brakes but I don't want to use both of them and come to a slamming halt if I could easily make the yellow light.

[Whiskey]

Originally Posted by Mocha Man

I'm talking about if I'm just a few feet from the line then I'll just go through the light (like most drivers) but I'm not going to slam on them just to stop for the red at that point.

That's a different story to the "it'll still be yellow when i get there...it'll still be yellow when i get there...it'll still be yell... **** it red, too late to stop now" always going through yellow types.

[aaol1]

Originally Posted by jackliu239

Not sure if this counts, today I was just riding in my local neighborhood, as I come to a interception, the light turned yellow, instead of stop I just increase the throttle, I think when I was 3/4 way through the light turned red, and I'm pretty sure I was no more than 10 mph above the speed limit.

Right after I cross it, I hear the horn from the a police car on my right side, I glanced over and saw the blue light start flashing, I saw some movement from it, but I lost tracking as I kept going.

I then open up the throttle as much as I would and I turn right at the first interception opportunity I got, it was one of little residential streets with stop signs, then I make another turn at next interception, then another until I come to a long dead end street.

I waited there and hope I lost him... and it appears that is indeed what happened, but I didn't want to take any chances, I looked at my watch and it was 5:30PM, I waited half hour there until 6 and drove home taking the small residential streets.

I just want to share this story, anyone else had evaded police before? As for me, lesson learned, next time I would stop at yellow instead of speed through.

yea man its happened to me too, only in my car. especially at night, if im far enough ill try to do lots of turns into little streets and hopefully lose em, if theyre still following then ill pretend like im looking for a friends house, or something believable. its not the best, and for sure i dont run yellows on purpose either, but i think its a "grey zone" if theyre far enough and whatnot, especially if you dont run away like a maniac, and its night :P

[MasterCylinder]

I see you decided to skip the ticket process and go straight to a felony charge.

Smooth move ex-lax. Way to keep the imagine of motorcycle riders alive.

Link to original page on YouTube.

[Firehorse]

Originally Posted by Whiskey

1) I really don't get that continent's laws. It's legal everywhere else, it's safer than pulling up at the edge of a lane as the next car will occupy the bit of space you left.

OP is in Cali so he can filter/split

Hell commuting by bike & filtering through jams makes everyone's trip shorter. Read the clip notes from the study on my blog.

2)Flicking a door open in traffic is just asking to smash it into the car stopped next to you.

Sorry, Whiskey, was away for a while.
I guess traffic is different everywhere. I don't really experience slow rides or traffic jams here so I'll count my blessings and leave it at that.

As for your point about car doors, maybe we have wider lanes? Two cars side by side at a red light would never hit another car's door. With doors open, you could probably still ride a bicycle between them.

Some of the oldest streets would be too skinny for a bicycle and car to occupy the same spot so those a different, bicycles have the right of way. One vehicle width, car, bike or bicycle.

My city is quite old so we have a mix of road widths but the newer roads are effective at keeping traffic moving so I guess we'll see more lane splitting discussions/options here when traffic gets bad.

It's like turning right on a red. When the next province over enacted that law, they weren't used to doing it so it was pretty scary for a while!

[Ducati999]

Hey every one, I was young and stupid once and I have run before. You do not want to try to outrun the police now a days! They will impound your bike and take you to jail! You will be charged with 10-30 different charges ranging from reckless driving, speeding, exhibition of speed, failure to yield and if you don't signal all lane changes and turns they will add that, plus you will have felony evasion charges and if the police officer so much as bumps a curb while pursuing you they can add assault on an officer and about 4-5 more charges. The real test is wether the $150 speeding/ruuning a red ticket is worth risking giving Harvey Birdman $2000 to fight to keep your license and another $400-$1000 to get your beloved ride out of impound and pay for the tow. Most times they will not let you get it out the same day (even if you are out of jail) and you have to pay for storage which puts your bike outside and not necessarly in a locked yard! Ask how I know!
Believe me it is not worth running. The little spot of sand, which you would have seen if you wernt looking in your mirror for the cops, will take you out and you will wreck your bike. They will radio all the other officers and will be looking for you so just stop and talk to them. I have found that if you have a pretty clear license history they can be pretty lenient. The only time you can run if you are dead set on this is when you are sure you can get away. When the cop is going the other direction and you see them and have a chance to turn quick you MIGHT have a chance but I drive for my job so I just stop.

Great stuff on the advice for stopping/running a yellow! Do not speed up! The car behind you may do the same and if you change your mind and stop he/she will clobber you! Also when you stop at a red/yellow always move to the side of the lane a little so if the cager behind you does not see you till too late they will aim for the opening and hopefully miss you! The law here says you must be completely thru the intersection before the red to be in compliance so if you plan to run the yellow you will need time. Finally, here if the officer sees you accelerate thru the yellow they will cite you and say if you had to accelerate to make it thru you have enough time to stop.

Ride safe and keep the speed down in town. I only speed (10 mph over max most of the time) when we are out of the heavily populated areas. I do go 80mph on the highway but not unless there are others doing the same. Keep the speed down in town where the police are most likely to be watching. Your perception should be at max approaching an intersection so you should SEE the light turn yellow and know if you have time to make the light or not so just pay attention and there will be no need to run!

[Xtina]

$10 says cop wasn't even going after you.

[CC Cowboy]

The Police are your friends. They are only there to help you.

[cbinker]

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

The Police are your friends. They are only there to help you.

[DEFY]

Cops don't chase me... I chase cops, its the fastest way through traffic lol

[Han Solo 1]

Last time I almost crapped my pants b/c of a cop was right after I bought the bike and hadn't registered it yet. No plate on the back, and this cop tailed me for about 8 or 9 blocks. I was certain I was going to have to pay a huge ticket, at the very least. Then he just made a u-turn and went away.

Weird.

[CC Cowboy]

Originally Posted by Han Solo 1

Last time I almost crapped my pants b/c of a cop was right after I bought the bike and hadn't registered it yet. No plate on the back, and this cop tailed me for about 8 or 9 blocks. I was certain I was going to have to pay a huge ticket, at the very least. Then he just made a u-turn and went away.

Weird.

He got a call that was more important than giving you a ticket (probably hot donuts at Krispy Kreme).

[b.miller123]

I ran once. When I was 18 and had been riding for about a year. I was on a two lane highway, the same one I took to and from highschool every day so I knew the area very well. It was the middle of the night and I was pretty much pinning it since there were no cars around (and I was an idiot). As I was coming around a corner I saw headlights that were fairly close. He slammed on his brakes and the last I saw was him lighting up his blue and reds as I rounded the bend. Since I knew exactly where I was, I took a side road that was in the perfect spot and was laid out like an exit ramp off the freeway would be. I got a few hundred feet down the road and killed the bike. I was able to sit there and watch him go flying by with his lights on.

[ally99]

I've never run because I'd do something stupid and probably crash. But I have hidden from them on occasions when the opportunity presents itself.