Rear seat lock not working anymore

tfkrocks · August 27th, 2013, 09:58 PM

Yesterday in the middle of the day after I had accessed the trunk a few times, I found that the key would no longer unlatch the rear seat. The key would turn all the way but nothing would happen. I ended up using an allen wrench to pull the cable and unlatch the thing. Upon further inspection, turning the key will make it start to unlatch but it never fully unlatches. It stops halfway and actually goes back a little bit. Any idea how to fix this? Opening it with an allen wrench isn't hard, but it looks a little ghetto

csmith12 · August 28th, 2013, 06:13 AM

Have you tried to lube it? (the cable as well as the lock unit)

tfkrocks · September 3rd, 2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by csmith12

Have you tried to lube it? (the cable as well as the lock unit)

I did. No effect. If anything, the mechanism at the lock seems too loose.

atomic · September 3rd, 2013, 10:11 PM

Look at part number 27016 in the below diagram. The little plastic part that keeps the cable end from moving likes to break.

http://www.kawasakipartshouse.com/oe...cks-reflectors

tfkrocks · September 3rd, 2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by atomic

Look at part number 27016 in the below diagram. The little plastic part that keeps the cable end from moving likes to break.

http://www.kawasakipartshouse.com/oe...cks-reflectors

Hah, that's it. The plastic looked broken but I wasn't entirely sure. Got any quick fixes for it or will I be forced to replace it/continue using an allen wrench as a key?

atomic · September 3rd, 2013, 10:45 PM

If there is anything left of the plastic bracket, you can use safety wire or something to bind the cable end to the bracket. That was my fix until the whole thing broke off. I was hoping this thread would give me some more time before I needed to order the part, but I think I'm going to cough up for a new one.

EDIT: So I found a way to wire it up without any part of the original plastic bracket. First i secured a length of wire around the collar of the cable then I positioned the cable so that it is not pulling on the lock and ran the wire back to the helmet hook, wrapped it a couple of times around the helmet hook. Then I ran the wire up to the cable and secured it - again making sure not to put tension on the lock. I took a picture if that makes it easier to understand.

tfkrocks · September 3rd, 2013, 11:38 PM

I'll go **** around with it later when I have time and see if I can make something work haha. I really don't care to pay for a new part.

tfkrocks · September 23rd, 2013, 09:10 AM

Oh yeah I never updated this. Seat lock works again after I safety wired things in place. I noticed the seat doesn't make a solid click into the lock anymore, but it still locks all the way so it shouldn't be a problem.

Panda · September 23rd, 2013, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tfkrocks

Oh yeah I never updated this. Seat lock works again after I safety wired things in place. I noticed the seat doesn't make a solid click into the lock anymore, but it still locks all the way so it shouldn't be a problem.

What did you use to secure the wire?

tfkrocks · September 23rd, 2013, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda

What did you use to secure the wire?

It's twisted tightly to itself.

tfkrocks · October 20th, 2013, 10:53 AM

@ninja820

Here I took a picture. Ignore the extra straps and things. I circled the cable you're supposed to hook the allen key onto. Slide it under the seat flat first until you're over the cable and then turn it so it can catch onto the cable. Then pull in the direction of the arrow and lift the seat at the same time.

ninja820 · October 20th, 2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tfkrocks

@ninja820

Here I took a picture. Ignore the extra straps and things. I circled the cable you're supposed to hook the allen key onto. Slide it under the seat flat first until you're over the cable and then turn it so it can catch onto the cable. Then pull in the direction of the arrow and lift the seat at the same time.

@tfkrocks

I was trying on the other side lol (thinking from the left side when facing the lock)

I tried an allen wrench but had no pull capability so I got a bungee cord and was able to get it latched onto the cable but no luck unlocking it

It seems like the cable is stuck on something. Any suggestions?

tfkrocks · October 20th, 2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ninja820

@tfkrocks

I was trying on the other side lol (thinking from the left side when facing the lock)

I tried an allen wrench but had no pull capability so I got a bungee cord and was able to get it latched onto the cable but no luck unlocking it

It seems like the cable is stuck on something. Any suggestions?

Well the reason this worked for me was because part of the plastic that holds the cable tight broke and so the cable wasn't pulling all the way anymore. It might not work if you don't have the same problem.

You don't have to both quote and mention me lol. Either one of them will get my attention

ninja820 · October 20th, 2013, 12:08 PM

@tfkrocks

I asked my brother in law for help and he got the seat off!

For anyone who might run into this problem take a long flat screw driver and on the opposite side of the cable push the latch in with the flat screw driver and it will unlock the seat. If anyone needs a picture for demonstration I can take one.

August 27th, 2013, 09:58 PM	#1
tfkrocks ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rebecca Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 w/ ABS, 2014 NC700X, 2008 Ninja 250 (sold), 2002 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '18, Sep '13	Rear seat lock not working anymore Yesterday in the middle of the day after I had accessed the trunk a few times, I found that the key would no longer unlatch the rear seat. The key would turn all the way but nothing would happen. I ended up using an allen wrench to pull the cable and unlatch the thing. Upon further inspection, turning the key will make it start to unlatch but it never fully unlatches. It stops halfway and actually goes back a little bit. Any idea how to fix this? Opening it with an allen wrench isn't hard, but it looks a little ghetto

August 28th, 2013, 06:13 AM	#2
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September 23rd, 2013, 09:10 AM	#8
tfkrocks ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rebecca Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 w/ ABS, 2014 NC700X, 2008 Ninja 250 (sold), 2002 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '18, Sep '13	Oh yeah I never updated this. Seat lock works again after I safety wired things in place. I noticed the seat doesn't make a solid click into the lock anymore, but it still locks all the way so it shouldn't be a problem.
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