11/18/2012 , Las Vegas NV to Barstow CA Vetter Challenge

greenaero · November 5th, 2012, 04:42 PM

This year's Las Vegas to Barstow Vetter Challenge will start at the Red Rock Casino in Las Vegas at 8 AM on November 18, 2012. We will be riding a different route this year ( @ 215 miles) through the scenic desert backgrounds led by Paul Golde (a Kawasaki rep)on a new Ninja 300. As always we welcome more Vetter Challenge competitors as well as other motorcyclists interested in seeing how their rides stack up against the best motorcycle hypermilers on the road. This year's field includes Fred Hayes, Alan Smith, Craig Vetter, Ron Johnson, Treven Baker and yours truly( Vic Valdes). The event will be filmed for possible development into a documentary about our efforts. It will be a blast and we would love to have you join us and make history as Craig says. For more information about the event, route, Vetter Challenge rules, etc. please go to Craig's website at www.craigvetter.com

If you want to join in the fun please let me know on this forum or send me a PM. I'll be in Vegas by Friday afternoon.
Stay safe, Vic

csmith12 · November 6th, 2012, 04:23 PM

Craig has some interesting designs. Good luck and may the force be with you!

greenaero · November 8th, 2012, 05:09 AM

Thanks! I hope to have another strong run like I did in Ohio ( 119 mpg)
all the best, GA

greenaero · November 20th, 2012, 12:11 PM

Here are the results for the 2012 Las Vegas to Bartow Vetter Challenge:

Fred Hayes 125.92 mpg Hayes Diesel streamliner
Treven Baker 104.01 Baker Diesel
Alan Smith 97.96 Ninja 250 streamliner
Joshua Chnen 89.09 Hayes Bio-diesel , winner Alternative fuel
Craig Vetter 80.50 Honda Helix streamliner
Ron Elder 78.37 Honda Insight car
Ron Johnston 72.90 Honda VT500 streamliner
Paul Golde 53.35 Kawasaki Ninja 300
Walt Fulton 48.56 BMW 1400cc
Nancy ? 47.35 Kawasaki ZX1000
Croft Long 43.47 Kawasaki KLR650

DNF: Vic Valdes 60.12 Ninja 250 streamliner

The weather was cool with some windy spots at the start and the finish. The final charge up I-40 was especially hard with a steep grade, high speeds and a headwind. This was the toughest conditions of the 3 Vetter Challenges this year.

As usual the Hayes diesels reigned supreme but many other competitors turned into some excellent results. Of special note were the performance of Treven Baker's homebuilt diesel and Ron Elder's Insight car.

My bike encountered a fuel starvation problem on the final charge up the I-40 grade about 2 miles from the finish. I switched to the reserve petcock position but the bike wouldn't accelerate above 45 mph max so I moved to the shoulder and took the first exit with a gas station. After refueling , the bike resumed normal running and I rode to the final meeting place. During the ride to Las Vegas my bike produced relatively poor fuel economy ( 55mpg, 60 mpg, 83 mpg). On the ride home I had a similar stalling episode but was able to resume normal acceleration without refueling. Very disappointing , I'll need to resolve this problem.

Despite my personal issues, this was another great event Kudos to Craig and Carol Vetter for their outstanding efforts in organizing this wonderful event. It was awesome and we had a lot of fun!

I hope you all enjoy a Happy Thanksgiving.

Alex · November 20th, 2012, 12:17 PM

Aw, that's too bad! Glad you made it out and back safely.

greenaero · November 20th, 2012, 12:38 PM

Thanks Alex. Yes, too bad about the poor finish but we'll get it fixed for next year's Challenges. Still a lot of fun with a lot of riding with cool peope and cool bikes. Thanks for moving this to the ride report section .

rojoracing53 · November 20th, 2012, 01:07 PM

Hey Vic can I enter myself in the alternate fuel category on my Ridey bicycle. With its endurance tuned rider oh I mean motor, it gets 105 MPMGB(Miles Per Macho Grande Borrito) but may not meet low emissions standards

greenaero · November 20th, 2012, 02:48 PM

Sounds like you would definitely be a contender!

The biodiesel guys would be wanting to tap you for a boost.

Bassman · November 22nd, 2012, 12:39 AM

I really love what your guys are doing. I hope to be there next year :-)

greenaero · November 22nd, 2012, 08:55 AM

Bassman, the 2013 Carmel Vetter Challenge will be sometime in May. Hopefully you can be ready to ride with us then.

November 5th, 2012, 04:42 PM	#1
greenaero Motorcycle Hypermiler Name: Vic Location: Livermore CA Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 1999 & 2005 Kawasaki Ninja 250R's Posts: A lot.	11/18/2012 , Las Vegas NV to Barstow CA Vetter Challenge This year's Las Vegas to Barstow Vetter Challenge will start at the Red Rock Casino in Las Vegas at 8 AM on November 18, 2012. We will be riding a different route this year ( @ 215 miles) through the scenic desert backgrounds led by Paul Golde (a Kawasaki rep)on a new Ninja 300. As always we welcome more Vetter Challenge competitors as well as other motorcyclists interested in seeing how their rides stack up against the best motorcycle hypermilers on the road. This year's field includes Fred Hayes, Alan Smith, Craig Vetter, Ron Johnson, Treven Baker and yours truly( Vic Valdes). The event will be filmed for possible development into a documentary about our efforts. It will be a blast and we would love to have you join us and make history as Craig says. For more information about the event, route, Vetter Challenge rules, etc. please go to Craig's website at www.craigvetter.com If you want to join in the fun please let me know on this forum or send me a PM. I'll be in Vegas by Friday afternoon. Stay safe, Vic

November 6th, 2012, 04:23 PM	#2
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Craig has some interesting designs. Good luck and may the force be with you! __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

November 20th, 2012, 12:17 PM	#5
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Aw, that's too bad! Glad you made it out and back safely. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

November 22nd, 2012, 12:39 AM	#9
Bassman ninjette.org guru Name: Marc Location: Castaic, CA Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1986 Goldwing, 1996 CR500, 2011 Ninja 250, 2009 Harley Heritage Softail, 1941 Suzuki Gerbil 250 Posts: 427	I really love what your guys are doing. I hope to be there next year :-) __________________________________________________ I know there's a 7th gear here somewhere... Changing to 15T/41T, now I'll get that 7th gear, lol.

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November 8th, 2012, 05:09 AM	#3
greenaero Motorcycle Hypermiler Name: Vic Location: Livermore CA Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 1999 & 2005 Kawasaki Ninja 250R's Posts: A lot.	Thanks! I hope to have another strong run like I did in Ohio ( 119 mpg) all the best, GA

November 20th, 2012, 12:11 PM	#4
greenaero Motorcycle Hypermiler Name: Vic Location: Livermore CA Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 1999 & 2005 Kawasaki Ninja 250R's Posts: A lot.	Here are the results for the 2012 Las Vegas to Bartow Vetter Challenge: Fred Hayes 125.92 mpg Hayes Diesel streamliner Treven Baker 104.01 Baker Diesel Alan Smith 97.96 Ninja 250 streamliner Joshua Chnen 89.09 Hayes Bio-diesel , winner Alternative fuel Craig Vetter 80.50 Honda Helix streamliner Ron Elder 78.37 Honda Insight car Ron Johnston 72.90 Honda VT500 streamliner Paul Golde 53.35 Kawasaki Ninja 300 Walt Fulton 48.56 BMW 1400cc Nancy ? 47.35 Kawasaki ZX1000 Croft Long 43.47 Kawasaki KLR650 DNF: Vic Valdes 60.12 Ninja 250 streamliner The weather was cool with some windy spots at the start and the finish. The final charge up I-40 was especially hard with a steep grade, high speeds and a headwind. This was the toughest conditions of the 3 Vetter Challenges this year. As usual the Hayes diesels reigned supreme but many other competitors turned into some excellent results. Of special note were the performance of Treven Baker's homebuilt diesel and Ron Elder's Insight car. My bike encountered a fuel starvation problem on the final charge up the I-40 grade about 2 miles from the finish. I switched to the reserve petcock position but the bike wouldn't accelerate above 45 mph max so I moved to the shoulder and took the first exit with a gas station. After refueling , the bike resumed normal running and I rode to the final meeting place. During the ride to Las Vegas my bike produced relatively poor fuel economy ( 55mpg, 60 mpg, 83 mpg). On the ride home I had a similar stalling episode but was able to resume normal acceleration without refueling. Very disappointing , I'll need to resolve this problem. Despite my personal issues, this was another great event Kudos to Craig and Carol Vetter for their outstanding efforts in organizing this wonderful event. It was awesome and we had a lot of fun! I hope you all enjoy a Happy Thanksgiving.

November 20th, 2012, 12:38 PM	#6
greenaero Motorcycle Hypermiler Name: Vic Location: Livermore CA Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 1999 & 2005 Kawasaki Ninja 250R's Posts: A lot.	Thanks Alex. Yes, too bad about the poor finish but we'll get it fixed for next year's Challenges. Still a lot of fun with a lot of riding with cool peope and cool bikes. Thanks for moving this to the ride report section .

November 20th, 2012, 01:07 PM	#7
rojoracing53 Fast-Guy wannabe Name: Jason Location: Brentwood, Ca Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja250, 2011 RM-Z250, 2004 NSR50, Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '13	Hey Vic can I enter myself in the alternate fuel category on my Ridey bicycle. With its endurance tuned rider oh I mean motor, it gets 105 MPMGB(Miles Per Macho Grande Borrito) but may not meet low emissions standards

November 20th, 2012, 02:48 PM	#8
greenaero Motorcycle Hypermiler Name: Vic Location: Livermore CA Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 1999 & 2005 Kawasaki Ninja 250R's Posts: A lot.	Sounds like you would definitely be a contender! The biodiesel guys would be wanting to tap you for a boost.

November 22nd, 2012, 08:55 AM	#10
greenaero Motorcycle Hypermiler Name: Vic Location: Livermore CA Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 1999 & 2005 Kawasaki Ninja 250R's Posts: A lot.	Bassman, the 2013 Carmel Vetter Challenge will be sometime in May. Hopefully you can be ready to ride with us then.