(Re-)Pack Jardine RT-5 Slip On?

DmbShn41 · August 29th, 2015, 05:28 AM

Searched around but couldn't find anything definitive. Last weekend, was cleaning the bike up, and notice the fair amount of dirt and exhaust debris (carbon) built up on the Jardine RT-5 slip on that I have on bike. Removed it from pipe, found some screws that allowed disassembly. Disassembled to clean, but was kinda befuddled that there was no packing inside. Just a resonator pipe going through the body of the slip on.

Questions:
Does anyone know if there originally was packing in these cans? I bought second hand with exhaust already on, so I'm unsure.

Can I repack it? Wrap exhaust packing around the resonator pipe, inside the body of slip on.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks~

choneofakind · August 29th, 2015, 09:54 AM

I don't see why you couldn't pack it with fiberglass. As long as it's just a perforated tube held inside a canister, you should be able to. I recently did this with my muzzy can. I used the fiberglass that Area P sells on their site because it's strings like spaghetti that you push into the cansister, not a mat that you roll around the perforated tube. I don't think it functionally makes a difference, I just thought that would be easier to work with.

DmbShn41 · August 30th, 2015, 02:31 PM

I like the idea of the Area P material, like the Yoshi stuff. I bought a $10 kit off amazon, will try that. If it doesn't work out, maybe I'll get the Area P kit. Thanks.

dcj13 · August 30th, 2015, 04:49 PM

You could probably use house insulation like they sell at Home Depot. Just make sure you don't include any paper backing!

DmbShn41 · August 31st, 2015, 04:23 AM

I'm going to stick with the universal Two Brothers packing kit from Amazon....and if I think it could be better, I'll check out the Area P/Yoshi kits.

DmbShn41 · September 17th, 2015, 09:05 AM

So the universal two brothers kit from Amazon is slightly misleading...was steel wool sheets, no repack fiberglass material. Ended up running to local bike shop and getting the Moose Brothers Racing fiberglass pack material. (How about that @csmith12...) which they had for $8 a sheet, shocking.

Anyways, made one complete wrap with the steel wool around core, then wrapped the fiberglass material around that until I could no longer fit the core inside the can. Taped that up, packed into the can, reinstalled.

Not as throaty, somewhat more consistent idle. Little quieter at WOT, may have lost a little power, but the current installed dyno gauge is slightly influenced by sound, so that may throw it off....No backfires anymore, and blipping doesn't produce random pops, no popping on decel. Overall, I'm okay with it. Have close to 300 miles on this over the last two weeks, will keep checking. I still may consider doing this over with the Yoshi kit.

csmith12 · September 17th, 2015, 09:09 AM

What shop did you go to?

choneofakind · September 17th, 2015, 09:10 AM

Maybe that's why Two Brothers cans are so loud for what they are... are they all packed with steel wool instead of glass?

DmbShn41 · September 17th, 2015, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

What shop did you go to?

Beechmont Motorsports off 125 and 275

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Maybe that's why Two Brothers cans are so loud for what they are... are they all packed with steel wool instead of glass?

Maybe. Not sure. Its like an industrial grade, thicker steel wool pad. Just didn't seem that by wrapping with only that, it would do anything. Plus, from my early days of modding my first 250 with a GSX-R exhaust, packed with steel wool, the steel wool packing caught on fire and spit a few really cool fireballs out of the exhaust....just didn't seem like a good idea. Hence wrapping the fiberglass wrap on the outside. Plus all the DIY videos I found on YouTube followed that procedure.

sharky nrk · September 17th, 2015, 09:31 AM

How often do you guys repack a can - I honestly am not sure I have ever done one lol. It just kinda gets louder and louder I suppose lol.

csmith12 · September 17th, 2015, 09:38 AM

I repack when I hear stuff rattling around in there. lol

choneofakind · September 17th, 2015, 09:42 AM

When it gets raspy and goes "BBRAAAAAAAAAPP", there's usually about half the packing blown out of it. I repacked mine this spring, I'm glad I did. No more brap, not much quieter.

BrianATX · September 18th, 2015, 03:43 PM

I have the Jardine RT-5 full exhaust on my bike. There is no packing material in this muffler. I know some of Jardine's other lines will have packing material but the RT-5 line does not. Not sure if putting packing material in it anyway would harm it.

Product PDF on their website:

http://www.jardineproducts.com/image...618-123-02.pdf

DmbShn41 · September 19th, 2015, 02:44 PM

I found this while researching, but where does it mention anything about no packing in the muffler? Throug my limited research, packing the muffler is almost integral to performance due to back pressure needed at the head.

My system was installed on bike already when I purchased from previous owner. Did you install your system?

BrianATX · September 19th, 2015, 04:05 PM

It was already installed on my bike. I think I contacted someone a few years ago. I like you was thinking it must be time to repack it. But I could only find repack kits for the RT-1 series. I think I was on Revzilla but Jardine has a contact us link on their webpage. When I took mine apart to take a peak inside I also found a bunch of nothing inside. It is my understanding the less back pressure the better the engine is able to perform.

August 29th, 2015, 05:28 AM	#1
DmbShn41 Wannabe Reborn Name: Unregistered Location: Cincy Ohio Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): Blue 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: 302	(Re-)Pack Jardine RT-5 Slip On? Searched around but couldn't find anything definitive. Last weekend, was cleaning the bike up, and notice the fair amount of dirt and exhaust debris (carbon) built up on the Jardine RT-5 slip on that I have on bike. Removed it from pipe, found some screws that allowed disassembly. Disassembled to clean, but was kinda befuddled that there was no packing inside. Just a resonator pipe going through the body of the slip on. Questions: Does anyone know if there originally was packing in these cans? I bought second hand with exhaust already on, so I'm unsure. Can I repack it? Wrap exhaust packing around the resonator pipe, inside the body of slip on. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks~ __________________________________________________ " If you're here to show off and prove that your crotch rocket is faster than my Harley, you can leave now. "

August 30th, 2015, 02:31 PM	#3
DmbShn41 Wannabe Reborn Name: Unregistered Location: Cincy Ohio Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): Blue 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: 302	I like the idea of the Area P material, like the Yoshi stuff. I bought a $10 kit off amazon, will try that. If it doesn't work out, maybe I'll get the Area P kit. Thanks. __________________________________________________ " If you're here to show off and prove that your crotch rocket is faster than my Harley, you can leave now. "

August 31st, 2015, 04:23 AM	#5
DmbShn41 Wannabe Reborn Name: Unregistered Location: Cincy Ohio Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): Blue 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: 302	I'm going to stick with the universal Two Brothers packing kit from Amazon....and if I think it could be better, I'll check out the Area P/Yoshi kits. __________________________________________________ " If you're here to show off and prove that your crotch rocket is faster than my Harley, you can leave now. "

September 17th, 2015, 09:05 AM	#6
DmbShn41 Wannabe Reborn Name: Unregistered Location: Cincy Ohio Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): Blue 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: 302	So the universal two brothers kit from Amazon is slightly misleading...was steel wool sheets, no repack fiberglass material. Ended up running to local bike shop and getting the Moose Brothers Racing fiberglass pack material. (How about that @csmith12...) which they had for $8 a sheet, shocking. Anyways, made one complete wrap with the steel wool around core, then wrapped the fiberglass material around that until I could no longer fit the core inside the can. Taped that up, packed into the can, reinstalled. Not as throaty, somewhat more consistent idle. Little quieter at WOT, may have lost a little power, but the current installed dyno gauge is slightly influenced by sound, so that may throw it off....No backfires anymore, and blipping doesn't produce random pops, no popping on decel. Overall, I'm okay with it. Have close to 300 miles on this over the last two weeks, will keep checking. I still may consider doing this over with the Yoshi kit. __________________________________________________ " If you're here to show off and prove that your crotch rocket is faster than my Harley, you can leave now. "

September 17th, 2015, 09:09 AM	#7
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	What shop did you go to? __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

August 29th, 2015, 09:54 AM	#2
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	I don't see why you couldn't pack it with fiberglass. As long as it's just a perforated tube held inside a canister, you should be able to. I recently did this with my muzzy can. I used the fiberglass that Area P sells on their site because it's strings like spaghetti that you push into the cansister, not a mat that you roll around the perforated tube. I don't think it functionally makes a difference, I just thought that would be easier to work with.

August 30th, 2015, 04:49 PM	#4
dcj13 Participant Name: Dave Location: South of Seattle Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): '94 K75 std Posts: Too much. MOTM - Aug '15	You could probably use house insulation like they sell at Home Depot. Just make sure you don't include any paper backing!

September 17th, 2015, 09:10 AM	#8
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Maybe that's why Two Brothers cans are so loud for what they are... are they all packed with steel wool instead of glass?

September 17th, 2015, 09:31 AM	#10
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	How often do you guys repack a can - I honestly am not sure I have ever done one lol. It just kinda gets louder and louder I suppose lol. __________________________________________________ Keep it rubber side down and enjoy the ride Get healthy - Get Fit - Change Your Life Click Here Or PM Me To Find More - Advocare

September 17th, 2015, 09:38 AM	#11
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	I repack when I hear stuff rattling around in there. lol __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

September 17th, 2015, 09:42 AM	#12
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	When it gets raspy and goes "BBRAAAAAAAAAPP", there's usually about half the packing blown out of it. I repacked mine this spring, I'm glad I did. No more brap, not much quieter.

September 18th, 2015, 03:43 PM	#13
BrianATX ninjette.org member Name: Brian Location: Austin TX Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: 11	Jardine RT-5 I have the Jardine RT-5 full exhaust on my bike. There is no packing material in this muffler. I know some of Jardine's other lines will have packing material but the RT-5 line does not. Not sure if putting packing material in it anyway would harm it. Product PDF on their website: http://www.jardineproducts.com/image...618-123-02.pdf

September 19th, 2015, 02:44 PM	#14
DmbShn41 Wannabe Reborn Name: Unregistered Location: Cincy Ohio Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): Blue 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: 302	I found this while researching, but where does it mention anything about no packing in the muffler? Throug my limited research, packing the muffler is almost integral to performance due to back pressure needed at the head. My system was installed on bike already when I purchased from previous owner. Did you install your system? __________________________________________________ " If you're here to show off and prove that your crotch rocket is faster than my Harley, you can leave now. "

September 19th, 2015, 04:05 PM	#15
BrianATX ninjette.org member Name: Brian Location: Austin TX Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: 11	It was already installed on my bike. I think I contacted someone a few years ago. I like you was thinking it must be time to repack it. But I could only find repack kits for the RT-1 series. I think I was on Revzilla but Jardine has a contact us link on their webpage. When I took mine apart to take a peak inside I also found a bunch of nothing inside. It is my understanding the less back pressure the better the engine is able to perform.

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