June 23rd, 2011, 05:23 PM | #1 |
Gear crash test dummy
Name: Max
Location: South Bay (So. Cal)
Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.
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What's up with my bike? Dropping gears
Lately I've been cruising around on my ninjette and when I shift into 2nd, usually within 2 seconds the thing drops back in to neutral! It makes the engine rev really high as I'm usually applying throttle through my shifting and gives me a bit of a jolt.
At first I thought maybe it was me, as I'm a fairly new rider (3 weeks today) but there have been a few times where I'm solidly in 2nd gear, been there for at least 6 seconds with my foot underneath the shift lever and boom, the bike drops in to neutral! Even more recently, starting yesterday, the bike seems to have been doing the same in higher gears. Maybe not completely dropping but it seems to get caught between gears as I shift. The jury is still out as to whether or not that's me being a noob or the bike playing with my emotions; but do you guys have any idea as to what's up or how I can fix it? To cover some questions you may ask I have experienced this issue both when I've first started riding as well as when I've been riding for a fair amount of time (so when the bike is both warm and cold) and it happens when I'm really rolling on the throttle or just cruising down the road. |
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June 23rd, 2011, 05:56 PM | #2 | |
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June 23rd, 2011, 05:56 PM | #3 |
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Name: nah
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Let the shift lever fully release betwEen shifts
Don't ride w your foot under the lever You don't have to, but I recommend riding on the balls of your feet with your heels in Edit: I've never had it happen to me, so its just my 2c |
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June 23rd, 2011, 05:59 PM | #4 |
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adjust the shift lever.
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June 23rd, 2011, 11:07 PM | #5 | |
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Name: Chris (aka Reactor)
Location: Northern KY
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New boots or steal toe? kkim may have it again with adjustment. Depending on your size, boot and your comfortable foot position, you may have to adjust your shift lever. Seems to me, the variance (2secs vs 6sec) in time points to when you move your foot. The false neutral is a known thing on these bikes and only made worse by poor adjustment with your boots. You have to shift with authority and completely. But for 3 weeks... Ride how you are comfortable and be safe out there.
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June 24th, 2011, 01:40 AM | #6 | |
Gear crash test dummy
Name: Max
Location: South Bay (So. Cal)
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I'll try what you guys have posted though and see what results I get, thanks! |
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June 24th, 2011, 02:39 AM | #7 |
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sigh... try adjusting your shift lever.
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June 24th, 2011, 05:05 AM | #8 |
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Name: Kerry
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How old is the bike, bran new with factory oil?? If its new and never had an oil change, do an oil change. Thats what fixed ours from doing that.
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June 24th, 2011, 05:18 AM | #9 |
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Name: Anon
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+1. This can happen when you don't quite pull on the shift lever far enough to really click into gear (even though it seems in gear for a second). If the lever doesn't allow you to reach the top of the shift range easily or if you're making half-hearted shifts, it can click back into neutral. Plus, if that's the problem, it'll make it much more comfortable to control.
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June 24th, 2011, 10:37 AM | #10 | |
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1st to 2nd gear is the biggest shift in a motorcycle gearbox. Crossing over the neutral area between the two gears. The shift lever has to rotate the cam-drum further on this shift than on any other, moving the gearbox shifting forks far enough to disengage 1st, cross neutral and then engage the dogs on 2nd. |
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June 24th, 2011, 10:52 AM | #11 |
Norwegian dude
Name: Ole
Location: Norway
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Been having the exact same problem lately, and happening more often. And it's definitely not me, there is something with either the shift lever itself or the "neutral-finder" mechanism. Actually called the shop last night, where i bought the bike from about a year ago and asked about it, and they told me to bring the bike in and have it checked asap.
Uhm, I would kinda like to try this myself if possible before bringing it in. However I have no idea how/what needs to be adjusted. Yes, I am very noob and afraid of messing things up when it comes to mechanical stuff. If anyone could explain this abit further I would be very thankful |
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June 24th, 2011, 11:04 AM | #12 |
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loosen the 2 lock nuts on the shift rod and turn the rod in or out till it adjusts the shifter to the position you want it, then retighten the lock nuts.
pics of the shift rod install in this DIY should help. read the text along with the pics as one of the lock nuts is reversed threaded. http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15136 |
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June 24th, 2011, 11:09 AM | #13 |
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Name: Greg
Location: Rhode Island
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If you carefully run the bike on a stable rear stand does it disengage?
Back to KKim's point I know when I change boots I often have shifting issues until I get a good feel for the shape of the boot. |
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June 25th, 2011, 04:04 AM | #14 |
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Name: Alexandre
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it's hapenning to me under hard acceleration in gear 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6....
I will try to adjust the shift lever. |
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June 25th, 2011, 11:32 AM | #15 | |
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June 25th, 2011, 12:06 PM | #16 |
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Good to hear!
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