Best exhaust? Totsubu, LEO, Area P?

Bigballsofpaint · February 13th, 2015, 09:32 PM

OK i know this topic is beaten like a dead horse but i recall seeing someone posted that the highest HP numbers went Totsubo exhaust, Leo vince and then area p. Is this right?

My tax refund is way more than expected, so on top of paying more credit card debt i feel like treating myself since im a selfish bastard. Sign up extra early for a track weekend, and full intake/exhaust on the 250 which wasnt planned at all. I really want the most for my money, ideally i would love to find an ecu, throttle b ody, etc from overseas to have a bolt on FI kit as well.

I want the highest hp, id really love to hit 35hp to the wheel or get damn close. Area Ps race xhaust was like 32. Now was that with the KN filter? What if i bought the DNA stage 3 filter with the full exhaust?

Totsubo would be nice, but its really the LV vs the area P, and honestly the LV EVO 2 is like 400 bucks on revzilla right now (50% off) so that would be my honest choice, especially if it can get a tad higher than the area p high mount race system which is almost 700.

csmith12 · February 13th, 2015, 09:40 PM

Hold off on your choice just yet, give me a day or two.

sparky80 · February 13th, 2015, 09:42 PM

get the one you want. "best" is relative to the sound, shape, and style you're after.

That being said, Leo Vince makes a quality product, and I'm very satisfied with the carbon fiber one I got on my FZ1. For it being 50% off, jump on that!

Bigballsofpaint · February 13th, 2015, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparky80

get the one you want. "best" is relative to the sound, shape, and style you're after.

That being said, Leo Vince makes a quality product, and I'm very satisfied with the carbon fiber one I got on my FZ1. For it being 50% off, jump on that!

Not quite with these little bikes, a two brothers vs area p can be a 2-3 hp difference, and thats huge on these bikes.

Im even looking to buy the DNA stage 3 filter vs the KN, which is like a 200 dollar difference IF it makes as big of a difference as they claim.

Im toying b etween buying the ecotrons FI kit or try to piece together something OEM from overseas and using a PCV as well. Ecotrons has been pretty quite as of late, so im wondering if all the kinks got worked out or if it just fell by the wayside.

Will do Chris, you know i value your opinion! I had no plans on putting more power int he 250 this year, but what the heck. I could buy a nice akro exhaust for the 1000 and pick up 15whp, or put an exhaust on the 250 for like 5whp haha. Dunno why im choosing the 250

Somchai · February 13th, 2015, 09:56 PM

Jay, just my 2cts.
The Totsubo is from what I'd read the one with the highest power gain, but I think this is a race exhaust and from what I'd read also it must be very loud.
The two systems from LV and AP don't differ that much, with the LV should have a little higher power gain than the AP. But the main difference is that the LV has a worldwide registration and is working with FI and carbs while the AP is a local American system optimized for carbed Ninjettes, what at least is understandable since the US had the carb only (AP should have started FI system exhausts with the Ninja 300, when I'm right?).
I also don't know about the quality of AP, which should be ok, but the LV is a very high quality system.
LV you should remember is financially struggling a little bit.

liberpolly · February 13th, 2015, 11:23 PM

Never trust any claims about HP gain without independent dyno tests. Here's one example:

http://www.skagitpowersports.com/def...age=ninjatests

it's done on Ninja 300 with help of Power Commander. On 250 you may see somewhat similar gains only if you tune your carburetor, which adds to the cost. if you think converting to FI, consider whether it'll be cheaper to sell your bike and buy Ninja 300.

Somchai · February 13th, 2015, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by liberpolly

Never trust any claims about HP gain without independent dyno tests.

- this is a very good reminder, also you should keep in mind that for the Ninja 300 there are seven different ecus and for the Ninja 250-FI there are four different ecus - so dyno is NOT dyno...

iamjacob · February 14th, 2015, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by csmith12

Hold off on your choice just yet, give me a day or two.

Do I smell a possible group buy being put together???

csmith12 · February 14th, 2015, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by iamjacob

Do I smell a possible group buy being put together???

Bigballsofpaint · February 14th, 2015, 07:42 AM

Chris even with a GB the LV is significantly cheaper

I like the way it looks vs the area P as well. Its on closeout, so i may just pull the trigger and buy it tonight.

Buying a 300 isnt in the card, ever. I have too much time and emotion in my 250. Transplanting a 300 motor would be an option, but im not really trying to go crazy here either. It was my first bike, its now my track bike until i buy a dedicated track bike.

Point taken on the ECU options, maybe ecotrons is a better solution then? Hopefully the local dyno tuner can tune their software and eek every bit of power from it.

csmith12 · February 14th, 2015, 07:45 AM

It's cool yo, your bike, your choice. Just trying to help a feller out.

Bigballsofpaint · February 14th, 2015, 07:55 AM

Ill still wait a day Chris, cuz i love you and its valentines day.

But fo reals. KN Filter and sack up and get the DNA? Powa is powa

csmith12 · February 14th, 2015, 09:48 AM

So what track day you gunna sign up for? How us other track addicts supposed to join ya if we don't know?

JohnnyBravo · February 14th, 2015, 10:26 AM

Area P is the best!

Close out is cheap

What's that commercial...

Link to original page on YouTube.

sparky80 · February 14th, 2015, 11:18 AM

If I was keeping my 250, I would buy the LV in a heartbeat.
Heck, I still might buy one... hold onto it for a few months and then sell it for a profit.

liberpolly · February 14th, 2015, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigballsofpaint

Chris even with a GB the LV is significantly cheaper

I like the way it looks vs the area P as well. Its on closeout, so i may just pull the trigger and buy it tonight.

Buying a 300 isnt in the card, ever. I have too much time and emotion in my 250. Transplanting a 300 motor would be an option, but im not really trying to go crazy here either. It was my first bike, its now my track bike until i buy a dedicated track bike.

Point taken on the ECU options, maybe ecotrons is a better solution then? Hopefully the local dyno tuner can tune their software and eek every bit of power from it.

That's cool, such attachment! It helps to look at it as a system: what combination of air intake, rejetted carbs, and exhaust system will give you the biggest bang for the buck - together.

Bigballsofpaint · February 14th, 2015, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by liberpolly

That's cool, such attachment! It helps to look at it as a system: what combination of air intake, rejetted carbs, and exhaust system will give you the biggest bang for the buck - together.

Thats what im after right now, basically its

LV, DNA filter, Ecotrons FI

or

Area P high mount race system, DNA filter, area p jet kit.

This is assuming the DNA filter really is the best on the market, otherwise i could just go KN.

Bigballsofpaint · February 14th, 2015, 01:01 PM

@csmith12 @adouglas @ducatti999

As far as my track addiction schedaul this is my tentative list pal,

-In may ill be taking a long weekend trip to the dragon-

Then my track schedual since im buying a membership.
June 2nd - Razee Day - this is prob the cheapest day for you guys. Its 195 for the day, and if no one on BoRN has a suit to lend you for free, then its 100 to rent suit/boot/gloves etc from TTD. This is at Thompson Speedway.

June 29,30th, Palmer MA Track. Cost for non members is 240 for the day, cant wait to ride this track, looks awesome.

July 25th, 26th - only 1 or possibly both days with team promotion at NYST. I have a bad feeling this track may close so i need to get there this year.

Aug 23,24th, Thompson Track, Cost for non members is 270 for sunday or 240 for monday.

Then at somepoint in Sept i will do another 2 day event, i just dont know if i want to do Palmer or thompson, ill decide after i ride Palmer.

Hows that?

EsrTek · February 14th, 2015, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigballsofpaint

This is assuming the DNA filter really is the best on the market, otherwise i could just go KN.

When I looked few yrs back, the pipercross had best gains...
DNA shows 21% Air flow increase, where pipercross has 30% gain.

I haven't Dyno'd mine since adding pipercross but they do tout to increase HP/Torque (but I can't find any specs on what that actually is).

Anyway you can find a lot of info on current air filters for 250/300 here:
https://www.ninjette.org/wiki/Air_fi..._the_Ninja_300

Bigballsofpaint · February 14th, 2015, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EsrTek

When I looked few yrs back, the pipercross had best gains...
DNA shows 21% Air flow increase, where pipercross has 30% gain.

I haven't Dyno'd mine since adding pipercross but they do tout to increase HP/Torque (but I can't find any specs on what that actually is).

Anyway you can find a lot of info on current air filters for 250/300 here:
https://www.ninjette.org/wiki/Air_fi..._the_Ninja_300

Im taling about the DNA stage 3, not the stock replacement...

http://www.dnafilters.com/en/news/pr...2008-2013.html

EsrTek · February 14th, 2015, 04:25 PM

Yeah thats better

Asspire · February 14th, 2015, 07:47 PM

keep the stock air box and put a clean filter in it (it actually does a good job as it is, minus the snokel), spending all that money for that stage 3 kit can be spent on better things like tires and suspension

Bigballsofpaint · February 14th, 2015, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asspire

keep the stock air box and put a clean filter in it (it actually does a good job as it is, minus the snokel), spending all that money for that stage 3 kit can be spent on better things like tires and suspension

....while i understand what your trying to say, my tires have 1 track day on them, i have done the entire suspension on the bike and upgraded the front brakes.

ForceofWill · February 15th, 2015, 12:50 AM

The DNA looks nice but only has that black mount to make it different from my K&N setup. Have you seen a dyno between the dna and kn?

psych0hans · February 15th, 2015, 01:33 AM

Why not use the money to upgrade to a 300?

Bigballsofpaint · February 15th, 2015, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceofWill

The DNA looks nice but only has that black mount to make it different from my K&N setup. Have you seen a dyno between the dna and kn?

I havent, thats part of the reason i made the thread hoping there was someone out there who has used both.

And again....no, im not "upgrading" to a 300. Im still up in the air about racing in the 300 class within the next couple years, 250s can mod anything above the heads (so no engine swap, boring, stroking, etc). 300s cant do anything (maybe a pipe now though), and the R3 i think is going to be allowed in the class.

ForceofWill · February 15th, 2015, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigballsofpaint

I havent, thats part of the reason i made the thread hoping there was someone out there who has used both.

And again....no, im not "upgrading" to a 300. Im still up in the air about racing in the 300 class within the next couple years, 250s can mod anything above the heads (so no engine swap, boring, stroking, etc). 300s cant do anything (maybe a pipe now though), and the R3 i think is going to be allowed in the class.

Ya I'm just not seeing the benefit over the k&n

Bigballsofpaint · February 15th, 2015, 10:02 AM

i was hoping someone would help their claim of 5-6hp at the rear wheel haha, i dont see a kn alone doing that.

ForceofWill · February 15th, 2015, 10:12 AM

This is my k&n, looks nearly the same aside from their mounting piece on the bottom.

sparky80 · February 15th, 2015, 11:05 AM

mmm.... Leo Vince!

sparky80 · February 16th, 2015, 10:57 AM

you can buy the full LV exhaust setup for $340 on ebay right now... free shipping. tempting stuff

Bigballsofpaint · February 16th, 2015, 11:00 AM

it is very tempting....i need to find dyno sheets for that exhaust

subxero · February 16th, 2015, 12:36 PM

unless you want to stay within some kind of regulations for racing I would stroke it.

What exhaust you running now? $400 for a LV seems like a good deal but you are still talking a few ponies at best.

You can probably pick up a whole 300 engine for $600 give or take. Do crank & rod transplant and bingo you have a 300 in 250 clothing (a little more to it than that, but not much) If you get whole engine, you can sell other engine bits to make up some cash, or shop around for crank bits by themselves to save some initial cash.

Bigballsofpaint · February 16th, 2015, 12:41 PM

Im on the stock exhaust right now. And im still up in the air about racing the 300 class, so id still like to keep it a true 250 for now.

Honestly im not trying to make this bike something it isnt, i have my 1000 if i need the speed fix. I breifly tossed up the idea of dropping the 300 motor in, but i can gain that by doing this exhaust and intake.

Im nearing the end of what my end goal is for the 250, after intake/exhaust and possibly FI, a KOSO unit will complete what i wanted this bike to be years ago.

subxero · February 16th, 2015, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigballsofpaint

Im on the stock exhaust right now. And im still up in the air about racing the 300 class, so id still like to keep it a true 250 for now.

Honestly im not trying to make this bike something it isnt, i have my 1000 if i need the speed fix. I breifly tossed up the idea of dropping the 300 motor in, but i can gain that by doing this exhaust and intake.

Im nearing the end of what my end goal is for the 250, after intake/exhaust and possibly FI, a KOSO unit will complete what i wanted this bike to be years ago.

I can't see exhaust and intake alone getting you to 34hp

and again, you wouldn't need to drop the whole motor in, just buy a used crankshaft for like $300 or under, some rods and other odds and ends. and transplant it into your current 250 motor. You wouldn't have to worry about efi conversion or anything like that, just rejet

Bigballsofpaint · February 16th, 2015, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subxero

I can't see exhaust and intake alone getting you to 34hp

and again, you wouldn't need to drop the whole motor in, just buy a used crankshaft for like $300 or under, some rods and other odds and ends. and transplant it into your current 250 motor. You wouldn't have to worry about efi conversion or anything like that, just rejet

the area p high mount kit with intake gives (on their dyno) 32hp at the wheel, about a 5hp bump from stock. I can live with that. And im way too lazy to start breaking motors apart that run perfectly fine right now haha.

The EFI conversion is also due to lazyness, i dont want to mess with carbs, ever....but if the ecotrons kit is that bad then i will suck it up and just re jet....more than likely a few times until i get it right.

subxero · February 16th, 2015, 01:10 PM

it's your party man

Bigballsofpaint · February 16th, 2015, 01:13 PM

those other guys should finish their turbos so i can just copy them......

subxero · February 16th, 2015, 02:10 PM

^ if by copy you mean steal, then YES!!

after reading the turbo threads it is obvious to me that it is far to much work and I would never complete it. Ergo concordantly vis-à-vis, thievery is the only option

liberpolly · February 16th, 2015, 02:39 PM

Turbo is much, much easier with EFI, so if you're planning on eventually going the turbo route, consider that.

February 13th, 2015, 09:32 PM	#1
Bigballsofpaint ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jay Location: CT Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2015 636 ABS - 69 Honda 305 Posts: A lot.	Best exhaust? Totsubu, LEO, Area P? OK i know this topic is beaten like a dead horse but i recall seeing someone posted that the highest HP numbers went Totsubo exhaust, Leo vince and then area p. Is this right? My tax refund is way more than expected, so on top of paying more credit card debt i feel like treating myself since im a selfish bastard. Sign up extra early for a track weekend, and full intake/exhaust on the 250 which wasnt planned at all. I really want the most for my money, ideally i would love to find an ecu, throttle b ody, etc from overseas to have a bolt on FI kit as well. I want the highest hp, id really love to hit 35hp to the wheel or get damn close. Area Ps race xhaust was like 32. Now was that with the KN filter? What if i bought the DNA stage 3 filter with the full exhaust? Totsubo would be nice, but its really the LV vs the area P, and honestly the LV EVO 2 is like 400 bucks on revzilla right now (50% off) so that would be my honest choice, especially if it can get a tad higher than the area p high mount race system which is almost 700.

February 13th, 2015, 09:40 PM	#2
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Hold off on your choice just yet, give me a day or two. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

February 13th, 2015, 09:42 PM	#3
sparky80 ninjette.org member Name: James Location: Dyess AFB (Abilene) TX Join Date: Jan 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Yamaha FZ1, 2006 Yamaha FJR1300A, 2014 Ninja 300 Posts: 116	get the one you want. "best" is relative to the sound, shape, and style you're after. That being said, Leo Vince makes a quality product, and I'm very satisfied with the carbon fiber one I got on my FZ1. For it being 50% off, jump on that! __________________________________________________ 2006 Yamaha FJR1300 And, my 2007 Yamaha FZ1. My favorite bike ever.

February 13th, 2015, 11:23 PM	#6
liberpolly ninjette.org guru Name: Poul Location: Seattle Join Date: Jan 2015 Motorcycle(s): 1999 Triumph Legend "Arwen", 2006 Ninja 650 "Matsuo Hotaru". 2010 Ninja 250 "Firefly" - sold. Posts: 338	Never trust any claims about HP gain without independent dyno tests. Here's one example: http://www.skagitpowersports.com/def...age=ninjatests it's done on Ninja 300 with help of Power Commander. On 250 you may see somewhat similar gains only if you tune your carburetor, which adds to the cost. if you think converting to FI, consider whether it'll be cheaper to sell your bike and buy Ninja 300. __________________________________________________ Screw the inscrutable, eff the ineffable.
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February 14th, 2015, 07:45 AM	#11
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	It's cool yo, your bike, your choice. Just trying to help a feller out. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

February 13th, 2015, 09:56 PM	#5
Somchai Freedom for Germany Location: This World Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R-FI Posts: A lot.	Jay, just my 2cts. The Totsubo is from what I'd read the one with the highest power gain, but I think this is a race exhaust and from what I'd read also it must be very loud. The two systems from LV and AP don't differ that much, with the LV should have a little higher power gain than the AP. But the main difference is that the LV has a worldwide registration and is working with FI and carbs while the AP is a local American system optimized for carbed Ninjettes, what at least is understandable since the US had the carb only (AP should have started FI system exhausts with the Ninja 300, when I'm right?). I also don't know about the quality of AP, which should be ok, but the LV is a very high quality system. LV you should remember is financially struggling a little bit.

February 14th, 2015, 07:42 AM	#10
Bigballsofpaint ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jay Location: CT Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2015 636 ABS - 69 Honda 305 Posts: A lot.	Chris even with a GB the LV is significantly cheaper I like the way it looks vs the area P as well. Its on closeout, so i may just pull the trigger and buy it tonight. Buying a 300 isnt in the card, ever. I have too much time and emotion in my 250. Transplanting a 300 motor would be an option, but im not really trying to go crazy here either. It was my first bike, its now my track bike until i buy a dedicated track bike. Point taken on the ECU options, maybe ecotrons is a better solution then? Hopefully the local dyno tuner can tune their software and eek every bit of power from it.

February 14th, 2015, 07:55 AM	#12
Bigballsofpaint ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jay Location: CT Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2015 636 ABS - 69 Honda 305 Posts: A lot.	Ill still wait a day Chris, cuz i love you and its valentines day. But fo reals. KN Filter and sack up and get the DNA? Powa is powa

February 14th, 2015, 09:48 AM	#13
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	So what track day you gunna sign up for? How us other track addicts supposed to join ya if we don't know? __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

February 14th, 2015, 10:26 AM	#14
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	Area P is the best! Close out is cheap What's that commercial... Link to original page on YouTube. __________________________________________________

February 14th, 2015, 11:18 AM	#15
sparky80 ninjette.org member Name: James Location: Dyess AFB (Abilene) TX Join Date: Jan 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Yamaha FZ1, 2006 Yamaha FJR1300A, 2014 Ninja 300 Posts: 116	If I was keeping my 250, I would buy the LV in a heartbeat. Heck, I still might buy one... hold onto it for a few months and then sell it for a profit. __________________________________________________ 2006 Yamaha FJR1300 And, my 2007 Yamaha FZ1. My favorite bike ever.

February 14th, 2015, 01:01 PM	#18
Bigballsofpaint ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jay Location: CT Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2015 636 ABS - 69 Honda 305 Posts: A lot.	@csmith12 @adouglas @ducatti999 As far as my track addiction schedaul this is my tentative list pal, -In may ill be taking a long weekend trip to the dragon- Then my track schedual since im buying a membership. June 2nd - Razee Day - this is prob the cheapest day for you guys. Its 195 for the day, and if no one on BoRN has a suit to lend you for free, then its 100 to rent suit/boot/gloves etc from TTD. This is at Thompson Speedway. June 29,30th, Palmer MA Track. Cost for non members is 240 for the day, cant wait to ride this track, looks awesome. July 25th, 26th - only 1 or possibly both days with team promotion at NYST. I have a bad feeling this track may close so i need to get there this year. Aug 23,24th, Thompson Track, Cost for non members is 270 for sunday or 240 for monday. Then at somepoint in Sept i will do another 2 day event, i just dont know if i want to do Palmer or thompson, ill decide after i ride Palmer. Hows that?

February 14th, 2015, 04:25 PM	#21
EsrTek ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Murfreesboro, TN Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): '13 300 Posts: A lot.	Yeah thats better __________________________________________________ My replies are intended for street riding only, plz do not provide track only replies. Visit my new MotoVlog Channel !!

February 14th, 2015, 07:47 PM	#22
Asspire Fix It Till Ya Break It Name: Asspyre Location: T.Dot Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 08 250RRrrrr Posts: 623	keep the stock air box and put a clean filter in it (it actually does a good job as it is, minus the snokel), spending all that money for that stage 3 kit can be spent on better things like tires and suspension

February 15th, 2015, 12:50 AM	#24
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	The DNA looks nice but only has that black mount to make it different from my K&N setup. Have you seen a dyno between the dna and kn?

February 15th, 2015, 01:33 AM	#25
psych0hans ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Hansveer Location: Bombay, India Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r - Track whore, Ninja 300 - SOLD, KTM RC390 - Orange Hulk, Ducati 899 Panigale - Red Devil. Posts: A lot.	Why not use the money to upgrade to a 300? __________________________________________________ GETTING BACK INTO RIDING? Read this.

February 15th, 2015, 10:02 AM	#28
Bigballsofpaint ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jay Location: CT Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2015 636 ABS - 69 Honda 305 Posts: A lot.	i was hoping someone would help their claim of 5-6hp at the rear wheel haha, i dont see a kn alone doing that.

February 15th, 2015, 10:12 AM	#29
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	This is my k&n, looks nearly the same aside from their mounting piece on the bottom.

February 16th, 2015, 10:57 AM	#31
sparky80 ninjette.org member Name: James Location: Dyess AFB (Abilene) TX Join Date: Jan 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Yamaha FZ1, 2006 Yamaha FJR1300A, 2014 Ninja 300 Posts: 116	you can buy the full LV exhaust setup for $340 on ebay right now... free shipping. tempting stuff __________________________________________________ 2006 Yamaha FJR1300 And, my 2007 Yamaha FZ1. My favorite bike ever.

February 16th, 2015, 11:00 AM	#32
Bigballsofpaint ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jay Location: CT Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2015 636 ABS - 69 Honda 305 Posts: A lot.	it is very tempting....i need to find dyno sheets for that exhaust

February 16th, 2015, 12:36 PM	#33
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	unless you want to stay within some kind of regulations for racing I would stroke it. What exhaust you running now? $400 for a LV seems like a good deal but you are still talking a few ponies at best. You can probably pick up a whole 300 engine for $600 give or take. Do crank & rod transplant and bingo you have a 300 in 250 clothing (a little more to it than that, but not much) If you get whole engine, you can sell other engine bits to make up some cash, or shop around for crank bits by themselves to save some initial cash. __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

February 16th, 2015, 12:41 PM	#34
Bigballsofpaint ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jay Location: CT Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2015 636 ABS - 69 Honda 305 Posts: A lot.	Im on the stock exhaust right now. And im still up in the air about racing the 300 class, so id still like to keep it a true 250 for now. Honestly im not trying to make this bike something it isnt, i have my 1000 if i need the speed fix. I breifly tossed up the idea of dropping the 300 motor in, but i can gain that by doing this exhaust and intake. Im nearing the end of what my end goal is for the 250, after intake/exhaust and possibly FI, a KOSO unit will complete what i wanted this bike to be years ago.

February 16th, 2015, 01:10 PM	#37
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	it's your party man __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

February 16th, 2015, 01:13 PM	#38
Bigballsofpaint ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jay Location: CT Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2015 636 ABS - 69 Honda 305 Posts: A lot.	those other guys should finish their turbos so i can just copy them......

February 16th, 2015, 02:10 PM	#39
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	^ if by copy you mean steal, then YES!! after reading the turbo threads it is obvious to me that it is far to much work and I would never complete it. Ergo concordantly vis-à-vis, thievery is the only option __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

February 16th, 2015, 02:39 PM	#40
liberpolly ninjette.org guru Name: Poul Location: Seattle Join Date: Jan 2015 Motorcycle(s): 1999 Triumph Legend "Arwen", 2006 Ninja 650 "Matsuo Hotaru". 2010 Ninja 250 "Firefly" - sold. Posts: 338	Turbo is much, much easier with EFI, so if you're planning on eventually going the turbo route, consider that. __________________________________________________ Screw the inscrutable, eff the ineffable.

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