How bad a spill

nitehawk · March 28th, 2013, 01:30 PM

Looking at a 250 to buy. What would it take do this kind of damage? Owner says just bumped.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B88X...it?usp=sharing

csmith12 · March 28th, 2013, 01:32 PM

lol..... right...... What scraped down the side of it? The rest of the bike spotless? I did something like that on my beater dirt bike coming out of my garage on the door frame.

nitehawk · March 28th, 2013, 01:37 PM

Why can't people just be honest. He also tried to say he dropped it on its right side because he forgot to put the kick stand down...at least I didn't go see it in person yet.

CC Cowboy · March 28th, 2013, 01:44 PM

Is that the only damage? I noticed the scrape is almost horizon. My CSI instinct says 45MPH dump.

nitehawk · March 28th, 2013, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

Is that the only damage? I noticed the scrape is almost horizon. My CSI instinct says 45MPH dump.

My guess would have put it in the same area. From the pictures I could see scratches on the bar end and brake lever. Also, I THINK i could see rubbing/tearing on the far right end of the rear seat strap. Here' s the other picture:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B88X...it?usp=sharing

nitehawk · March 28th, 2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by csmith12

lol..... right...... What scraped down the side of it? The rest of the bike spotless? I did something like that on my beater dirt bike coming out of my garage on the door frame.

Nothing on the fairings. That was my first thought too, but the owner said someone hit and ran while it was in a parking lot.

Bentley813 · March 28th, 2013, 03:04 PM

I believe him. It was a small bump or drop regardless. No dents on the muffler. Highly doubt that was a mid speed drop, or even a drop at standstill.

nitehawk · March 28th, 2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bentley813

I believe him. It was a small bump or drop regardless. No dents on the muffler. Highly doubt that was a mid speed drop, or even a drop at standstill.

He did say he also dropped it on that side while stopped (getting off). I would expect more damage overall at mid speed, but I don't know how to explain the horizontal rashing. Or how it was dropped at all on that side and not damage the fairings at all. So I assume the fairings were replaced. If it could be explained I'd be more than happy.

subxero · March 28th, 2013, 03:30 PM

Looking at both pics it is hard to say, Clearly see rash on bar end, and horizontal mark on pipe. And odd thing going on with rear seat strap.

My thoughts..., if there was fairing damage, why go through all the hassle and replace, fairing, most likely signal, mirror scratches, possibly rearset damage, but don't spend the extra couple bucks to get new bar end weight. It doesn't add up.

In short, kinda buying his story, looks like he dropped it at stop and got lucky that bar end took impact and must have saved everything else. Hard to see if rearset peg has any scuffs on it. Maybe scuffed pipe while picking it back up?

IDK, the whole hit and run thing sounds strange though. Besides Light cosmetic damage is the least of your worries when buying used bike. Hopefully he kept up on maintenance, oil ect...

csmith12 · March 28th, 2013, 03:41 PM

The only other thing I can think of is the damage has been repaired except for the can. Or the can is off another bike.

krolinked · March 28th, 2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by csmith12

The only other thing I can think of is the damage has been repaired except for the can. Or the can is off another bike.

Theres white paint on the exhaust, from another vehicle perhaps?

Hit and run sounds sorta legit if it is paint.

jpbear · March 28th, 2013, 10:03 PM

has to be a low speed crash. I crashed at 25pmh on the right side and it had way more damage than what i see on that can.

GearMonkey · March 28th, 2013, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jpbear

has to be a low speed crash. I crashed at 25pmh on the right side and it had way more damage than what i see on that can.

+1, and mine was in leaves and gravel at about 10mph.

Redgeneral · March 29th, 2013, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by nitehawk

Why can't people just be honest. He also tried to say he dropped it on its right side because he forgot to put the kick stand down...at least I didn't go see it in person yet.

I would be suspicious. Since last I checked the kick stand is on the left side.

Achilles · March 31st, 2013, 12:33 AM

It looks like something rubbed up on the side of it. Doesn't look like it slid or anything. When I got hit on my gixxer I was going 45 MPH and even with frame sliders my yoshi pipe got 1/4 inch deep scrapes at the bottom. The only reason the pipe got damaged was because the asphalt ate threw 3/4 of my slider's puck lowering the bike's angle enough to come in contact with the pipe. By the time it ate threw enough of the puck the bike was probably only sliding at 20 MPH or so and even at that speed it caused some decent damage.

March 28th, 2013, 01:30 PM	#1
nitehawk ninjette.org member Name: Josh Location: Los Angeles Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 - SE Black & Red Posts: 16	How bad a spill Looking at a 250 to buy. What would it take do this kind of damage? Owner says just bumped. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B88X...it?usp=sharing

March 28th, 2013, 01:32 PM	#2
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	lol..... right...... What scraped down the side of it? The rest of the bike spotless? I did something like that on my beater dirt bike coming out of my garage on the door frame. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

March 28th, 2013, 01:44 PM	#4
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Is that the only damage? I noticed the scrape is almost horizon. My CSI instinct says 45MPH dump. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

March 28th, 2013, 03:41 PM	#10
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	The only other thing I can think of is the damage has been repaired except for the can. Or the can is off another bike. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

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March 28th, 2013, 01:37 PM	#3
nitehawk ninjette.org member Name: Josh Location: Los Angeles Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 - SE Black & Red Posts: 16	Why can't people just be honest. He also tried to say he dropped it on its right side because he forgot to put the kick stand down...at least I didn't go see it in person yet.

March 28th, 2013, 03:04 PM	#7
Bentley813 ninjette.org member Name: Steve Location: Oswego, NY Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 White 300 Posts: 221	I believe him. It was a small bump or drop regardless. No dents on the muffler. Highly doubt that was a mid speed drop, or even a drop at standstill.

March 28th, 2013, 03:30 PM	#9
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	Looking at both pics it is hard to say, Clearly see rash on bar end, and horizontal mark on pipe. And odd thing going on with rear seat strap. My thoughts..., if there was fairing damage, why go through all the hassle and replace, fairing, most likely signal, mirror scratches, possibly rearset damage, but don't spend the extra couple bucks to get new bar end weight. It doesn't add up. In short, kinda buying his story, looks like he dropped it at stop and got lucky that bar end took impact and must have saved everything else. Hard to see if rearset peg has any scuffs on it. Maybe scuffed pipe while picking it back up? IDK, the whole hit and run thing sounds strange though. Besides Light cosmetic damage is the least of your worries when buying used bike. Hopefully he kept up on maintenance, oil ect...

March 28th, 2013, 10:03 PM	#12
jpbear ninjette.org member Name: JP Location: Bear, DE Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: 123	has to be a low speed crash. I crashed at 25pmh on the right side and it had way more damage than what i see on that can.

March 31st, 2013, 12:33 AM	#15
Achilles Road Rash Master Name: Mitch Location: Oregon Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): '09 SE Ninja 250r, '98 GSXR 750 Posts: 24	It looks like something rubbed up on the side of it. Doesn't look like it slid or anything. When I got hit on my gixxer I was going 45 MPH and even with frame sliders my yoshi pipe got 1/4 inch deep scrapes at the bottom. The only reason the pipe got damaged was because the asphalt ate threw 3/4 of my slider's puck lowering the bike's angle enough to come in contact with the pipe. By the time it ate threw enough of the puck the bike was probably only sliding at 20 MPH or so and even at that speed it caused some decent damage.