February 12th, 2009, 02:02 PM | #81 |
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yeah, i was thinking the same thing. although a little black paint might make it look like new again....
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February 12th, 2009, 02:04 PM | #82 |
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true, but if I can grind the clipon instead, that may be the better/cleaner option. I'll need to take a closer look if I decide I need to bring the bars back a bit. Again, thanks for sharing the idea.
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February 16th, 2009, 01:27 AM | #83 |
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Adjusted the clipons a bit tonight. Moved the bars in about 1/4-3/8" on each side and dropped the forks in the triple clamps. How much did I drop? I put the stock handlebars back on the top and dropped the forks till it bottomed against the underside of the stock handlebar brackets. The amount of the forks you see sticking out past top of the triple clamp is the max on can get with stock bars.
I had been noticing since I raised the forks as much as I could, the bike seemed to turn too slow for me and at night the headlight was pointed way too high into the cars in front of me. To cure both problems, I dropped the front back down a bit. |
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February 20th, 2009, 03:45 AM | #84 |
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Hey Kelly, I know you kept your stock grips because you like them (as do I) but I was wondering what other options we have to use and if an "upgrade" actually makes a difference. Jon, what are you using on your current setup?
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February 20th, 2009, 03:54 AM | #85 |
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I find grips are a very personal preference type of deal. For me, I like thin, small grips due to the size of my hands and the stock grips feel okay to me, plus they are relatively grippy. I'm sure there are better grips out there... I'm just not eager enough to go out trying to fix what ain't broke. If you run across something better than what you feel the stock grips are, please share. I'm all ears.
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February 20th, 2009, 07:52 AM | #86 |
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Excellent work, Kelly. You are getting even better (if that's possible) at putting together these DIYs. The pictures are fantastic. It must add hours to the task to stop what you're doing to take all these pictures and your efforts are much appreciated.
I'm glad to see that Eric Woodcraft finally figured it all out. The clip-ons look great. I know he had a devil of a time with the weird angle Kawasaki used for the bar mounts. I hope enough riders buy these to make it worth his time and trouble. He was certainly conflicted about making these things for the 250R because he thought the difference would be negligable, so it really surprises me he got so much of a change in ergonomics considering what he had to work with. The man is truly an artist and we're lucky he directs his talents to things that make our riding experiences better. I didn't really have an interest in adding clip-ons to my Ninja, but after reading your ride reviews I may have to reconsider. If it lengthens the reach and makes the cockpit bigger as a result it would be just the thing for 6' riders with long arms like me (I'll bet the Duck will be all over these). Thanks for another great effort! |
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February 20th, 2009, 08:07 AM | #87 |
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The Real Reason we have Clip-Ons for the 250r
http://www.kawiforums.com/showthread...s for the 250r
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February 20th, 2009, 01:55 PM | #88 | |
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February 20th, 2009, 03:55 PM | #90 |
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Thanks for asking, but I don't think so.
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February 20th, 2009, 04:05 PM | #91 |
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Hey, Richard... why don't you start a thread announcing the opening of your store in the classifieds so everyone can ask questions there. Your answers to questions like these are gonna get lost, scattered in other threads such as these.
You're welcome to stay in here, but I'm trying to get the word out on your store. BTW, any plans to hook up with a shock company or a fork kit? I hear Lindemann revalves the stock shock for a low cost approach. |
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February 20th, 2009, 09:59 PM | #92 | |
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I do know for the pre 08 250's and all the 500's woodcraft puts the bars on top of the tree and cajuntlr showed you could go lower under the tree. BUT anyway...THANKS TO ALL THAT HELP IMPROVE OUR NINJA |
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February 20th, 2009, 10:05 PM | #93 |
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I agree... the aftermarket support network for this bike grows daily. I'm glad we are in a position to reap the benefits of companies like woodcraft and area P who go the extra mile to insure quality products are delivered. In woodcraft's case, it took awhile and some prodding by a number of good people, but they finally came through with a kit.
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February 20th, 2009, 10:54 PM | #94 |
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Nice write up Kelly. Do you notice more weight on your wrists?
I don't think could handle it if so. My wrists are toast. Good picts also. Nice and clear. Thanks for taking the time.
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February 21st, 2009, 12:38 AM | #95 |
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Starla,
I think for shorter riders than me (5'7"), the clip ons would make the reach across the tank a deal breaker. With all the jiggling and repositioning I've done, I've just got it to a place where it is tolerable on street rides. The trade off, of course, is that the bike steers and handles better in the twisting with this positioning. It definitely places more weight on the wrists as you are pulled forward with the new position and the weight bias shifts forward as well, placing more of your body weight on your arms than the stock positioning. The bike is also harder to handle at very slow speeds compared to stock. |
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February 21st, 2009, 02:08 AM | #96 |
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Bless you , I just saved some money
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February 21st, 2009, 09:53 AM | #97 | |
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February 21st, 2009, 08:15 PM | #99 | |
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February 21st, 2009, 11:42 PM | #101 |
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I am 5'7
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February 21st, 2009, 11:46 PM | #102 |
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have you tried small adjustments to the bars? I've got it so that it's tolerable on the street at this time.
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February 22nd, 2009, 10:15 AM | #103 |
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its just the ergos - your back and stomach will get there. my 6R used to kill me and now its getting more and more tolerable
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February 22nd, 2009, 05:24 PM | #104 |
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I have no problem with you "mucking up" any of my DIYs.
I was thinking more along the lines that if there were a central thread that people could see what you have to offer, both you and the members would benefit. Not all forum members read these DIYs and they might miss out on some of the great things in your new store! |
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February 24th, 2009, 09:20 PM | #105 |
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I went ahead and put the sv clipons that cajuntlr came up with but I think im going to switch to woodcrafts for safety reasons. I only want to know if the bars can be pulled back as far as the originals with out touching the tank. Mine hit.
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February 24th, 2009, 10:09 PM | #106 |
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Just got my WC Clip-Ons installed. It's a pretty tight fit, but it will clear.
Now i gotta wait till summer to test ride it!
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February 24th, 2009, 10:12 PM | #107 |
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What do you mean "pulled back as far as the originals"? The WC will never pull back that far. If installed as they are designed, they clear both the tank and the front fairing at full lock to lock.
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February 24th, 2009, 11:11 PM | #108 |
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I mean after they are on if you put the originals back on and you view them from directly above are they the same angle. Sorry i guess its hard to explain.
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February 24th, 2009, 11:15 PM | #109 |
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you mean like this??
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February 24th, 2009, 11:23 PM | #110 |
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ya sorry over looked that one. thats what I meant. I thought they looked more foward (the angle) in the final pics. thanks kelly
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February 24th, 2009, 11:29 PM | #111 |
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NP... as I stated in the subsequent posts, they do have a bit of adjustability to them and I was able to find a setting that I can live with on the street.
How tall are you? I can't see anyone shorter than me (5'7") having a comfortable time with these, but if they are shorter and have long arms, it could work. |
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February 25th, 2009, 12:39 AM | #112 |
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im 5'10" with long arms lol so im trying to look smaller...im real comfortable with the suzuki clips as far as height and stretch but I dont like the contact with body. And im also afraid of them failing on me as their "custom fit".
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February 25th, 2009, 12:43 AM | #113 |
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WC did an excellent job of placing the clipons. Properly adjusted, they do not hit anything, but it can be tight for the hands at full lock, but then it's not very often you're at full lock, anyway.
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February 25th, 2009, 10:20 AM | #114 |
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i'm not sure what we have on ours. grips isn't something i've payed a lot of attention to on the race bikes.
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February 26th, 2009, 05:56 PM | #115 |
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did you guys have to adjust the throttle cables after the install? mine are all loose and one can turn it forward past where it would stop on idle.
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February 26th, 2009, 06:00 PM | #116 |
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take the switch housing back apart and double check where the cables go back into the throttle housing. make sure everything is back together correctly, especially the "pull" throttle cable.
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February 26th, 2009, 06:03 PM | #117 |
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I re-clocked mine so the engine kill switch is on top of the housing. I originally also re-routed my throttle cables so they didn't go in front of the frame as well. Otherwise with the housing I was having probs with the throttle cables hitting the fairing on right hand slow-speed turns. The nice thing about clip-ons is it's wicked easy to adjust this as the bar rotates.
It takes a while to get the bars set just right so everything clears and all. |
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March 5th, 2009, 11:11 PM | #118 |
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I'll be installing my clipons in the morning finally. Any tips/suggestions on what adjustments you made to make it more comfortable for street riding? Were you just rotating the bars around the forks closer to you to make it more comfortable, or what?
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March 5th, 2009, 11:33 PM | #119 |
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Jeff,
I did 3 things to make the bars more comfortable for me. 1- I slid the clipon brackets around the fork tubes as high as they can go so they sit flush with the bottom of the top portion of the triple clamp. 2- I slid the clipon tubes out as far as they can go so the are they widest possible. In doing that, the controls angle back towards you more. 3- When I slid the brackets up on the forks, I also rotated the clipon bracket back so they hit the triple clamp on the outside portion. You have a few degrees of adjustment... I adjusted them max toward the rear as I could. After doing these 3 things, the clipons were acceptable for street riding to me. I have since readjusted the tubes in a bit so they are not as wide. Right now, I have them adjusted so it is the best fit for me. My advice is to play with the clipon positions once you have them installed and ride the bike, then go back and make the corrections you need to make them workable. Small adjustments make a big difference in how the clipons make the bike feel... you'll be surprised. GL... |
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March 6th, 2009, 05:47 PM | #120 |
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Well I got them installed this morning and was going to South Mountain
http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=33...4.0.2722&hl=en It was about a 15 mile ride from my house, overall I liked the feel of the clipons. I felt more relaxed and spaced out. As soon as I got to the twisties, however, I was going through a turn and my bike suddenly died... And I had no idea why, and then I realized that my kick stand came down! The springs on the kick stand ending up coming off. Could have been a very bad experience, and I am lucky I didn't wreck. Needless to say I spent a while trying to find the spring, but couldn't. Luckily, I had my backpack and I was able to take a nylon cord off of it and tie the kickstand up to come back home. So unfortunately I did not get the full experience of the twisties today, but I will definitely tomorrow. It's really weird too. I installed woodcraft rear sets on monday, and have been riding it every day since then and have never had any problems with my foot getting caught on the spring on the kickstand, or any part down there by the shifter. But today for whatever reason, every time I upshifted I kept catching it. So I am assuming that is how the spring came off. I don't see how the clipons would affect this considering they have nothing to do with your feet, but that is the only thing I changed today... |
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