Dropped it on my third ride!

[Alex]

Originally Posted by kxpower?

WHAT?

A helmet is a single-crash item. Do the math and you see that a drop from 1 meter (39 some odd inches) will be going 10 miles an hour when it hits the floor. Assuming a solid floor that's as hard a direct hit as a helmet will ever see in a crash. If there's ANY damage to the shell it's a paperweight. And just because the outer shell looks OK means nothing.

Read this. http://msf-usa.org/downloads/helmet_CSI.pdf

There's nothing wrong with being safe. But you can go overboard on anything. One of the Arai execs has a more forgiving opinion than what MSF shares, and his company has more knowledge of helmet safety than any of us bickering in online forums. Check out this thread: I dropped my helmet... for some good links, including one to a video with the helmet exec and Jay Leno that describes what they feel would make a helmet unsafe.

[fishdip]

Originally Posted by DroHernandez

Somebody please PM me... I'm trying to fix the bike and I put the new shifter and foot peg on, so I can put the bike in 1st and in neutral. Now it doesn't go into 2nd 3rd 4th 5th or 6th. I might've done something wrong but I have no clue anybody please PM me. Or if you're in the area near discover mills, please help me haha. Pleaseeeee

They don't shift pass N with out moving

[Alex]

Originally Posted by DroHernandez

Somebody please PM me... I'm trying to fix the bike and I put the new shifter and foot peg on, so I can put the bike in 1st and in neutral. Now it doesn't go into 2nd 3rd 4th 5th or 6th. I might've done something wrong but I have no clue anybody please PM me. Or if you're in the area near discover mills, please help me haha. Pleaseeeee

That's the kawi neutral finder feature. It won't let the shifter go past neutral into second unless the bike is moving. If the bike is moving and it still won't go into second, only then would it indicate a problem.

[fishdip]

Originally Posted by Alex

That's the kawi neutral finder feature. It won't let the shifter go past neutral into second unless the bike is moving. If the bike is moving and it still won't go into second, only then would it indicate a problem.

To slow

[NevadaWolf]

Originally Posted by Alex

That's the kawi neutral finder feature. It won't let the shifter go past neutral into second unless the bike is moving. If the bike is moving and it still won't go into second, only then would it indicate a problem.

Moving moving? Or just the rear wheel spinning? Trying to recall if I've successfully shifted into 2nd and up during my rebuild while the bike was up on the rear stand.

Been too long so just checking.

[fishdip]

Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

Moving moving? Or just the rear wheel spinning? Trying to recall if I've successfully shifted into 2nd and up during my rebuild while the bike was up on the rear stand.

Been too long so just checking.

Just spinning nothing fast.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by fishdip

To slow

Except I saw your first version of that post, which had nothing to do with the neutral finder. Who do you think you're talking to here?

[fishdip]

Originally Posted by Alex

Except I saw your first version of that post, which had nothing to do with the neutral finder. Who do you think you're talking to here?

What first post

[DroHernandez]

Thank you guys. Idk if this is bad, but whenever I forced it to go up, it flipped upwards (perpendicular to the ground). Is that bad? I'm an idiot lol

[fishdip]

Originally Posted by DroHernandez

Thank you guys. Idk if this is bad, but whenever I forced it to go up, it flipped upwards (perpendicular to the ground). Is that bad? I'm an idiot lol

No its normal mine will do the same if I force it

[DroHernandez]

Gosh I love you guys!

[kxpower?]

Originally Posted by Alex

There's nothing wrong with being safe. But you can go overboard on anything. One of the Arai execs has a more forgiving opinion than what MSF shares, and his company has more knowledge of helmet safety than any of us bickering in online forums. Check out this thread: I dropped my helmet... for some good links, including one to a video with the helmet exec and Jay Leno that describes what they feel would make a helmet unsafe.

That's a really good video, that's a must see for riders.

I grew up in a family of riders, son of 2 MSF instructors who started riding in the early 70s so they knew a lot of people getting hurt or worse as riding in America became more mainstream. I remember a friend of the family who was an x-ray (maybe ultrasound) tech who would check out friends' helmets after drops saying that he could see cracks in either the shell of about every other one, that weren't visible. Given, he only got to see them if the owner was already worried about it, and just because there's a tiny hairline crack doesn't mean the helmet doesn't still offer a lot of protection. But 50/50 isn't the kind of odds I'm willing to put my brain into.

If it's hit asphalt with a melon in it, it definitely needs to go in the trash. The Arai guy didn't dispute that.

[DroHernandez]

The bike is back up and running!!!

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by DroHernandez

The bike is back up and running!!!

[NevadaWolf]

Ain't that the best feeling ever! Welcome to the world of repairing/tweaking. It gets fun from here on out.

[sunspots]

Wow seeing those pics sucked.


As everyone said. Know your limits. Because that will keep you alive.

[csmith12]

[DroHernandez]

Thanks guys I'm so stoked!!!! However, until the MSF course "graduation" I'll only be riding extremely local roads that I know very well. Unless, I'm with a much more experienced rider. Well too all: a goodnight.

[Trubin]

Ouch man, Just saw the picks I hope everything heals up nicely. I got away with only a bruise on my thigh.

[DroHernandez]

Originally Posted by Trubin

Ouch man, Just saw the picks I hope everything heals up nicely. I got away with only a bruise on my thigh.

Yeah man, I'm healing up like wolverine lmao. Somehow I've been healing super fast. I'm glad you're alright man, I can't wait to get good enough to do these stupid things correctly lmao

[parox91]

Originally Posted by Motofool

The idea that protection is all it takes can be misleading and dangerous.
Alex's skin would be in better shape, but not his bike: the accident would have happened.
Receiving enough impact to his naked head, the damage could have been irreversible; however, he should have never been in that situation.

This article should be read by each inexperienced rider:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=121405

With or without your sympathy or acceptance, millions of riders around the world don't have access to jackets or helmets and a good portion of them ride for many years without having a motorcycle accident.

Many riders in USA, if the law gives them the option, ride unprotected as well.
Before any related law existed, helmets and suits were things only seen in official races.

Take a look at this thread and observe how well protected the rider was:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=143200

I am not against protecting gear, but I know their limitations in effectiveness.
I wear mine, but I know that only my skills can keep me alive and in one piece.
Helmets are effective protection up to 30 mph, or so are tested.
Cordura will last for a couple of seconds.
Your shoulder CA protector cannot avoid a fractured collar bone.

Riders only crash when they fail to control the machine properly and when they fail to fully understand the surroundings.

I'd like to watch the horrific video... but the video has been taken down