August 29th, 2012, 07:37 PM | #41 |
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August 29th, 2012, 07:38 PM | #42 |
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August 29th, 2012, 09:55 PM | #43 |
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lol im not scared of riding but thats because i wont do anything that makes me feel uncomfortable. I know i wont be doing stupid things but unlike some of the people iv seen driving including my aunt. She lives off of her phone one time she was driving so stupid because of it i got it and threw it in the back of the car. I really didnt feel like dieng that day haha but i see where every one is coming from. Some people shouldnt ever get there license but some how they do and for the people iv seen driving that make me want to get off the car and back hand the **** out of them they better hope i never do cause one day i will.
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August 29th, 2012, 10:54 PM | #44 |
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Dirt bike. Learn to ride.
Learn to drive a car, and take MSF and all driving safety courses. Learn the rules of the road. Learn to ride a street bike off the roads. Go ride a bike (preferably a smaller one).
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August 30th, 2012, 02:26 AM | #45 |
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a 16 year old I know rides a Ninja 400, hasn't even been on it a whole season yet and talks about wanting a 600...he's 120lbs wet, 5'5, slower than me on my 250, too scared to hit the track and really test himself, yet talks like he's a champ...
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August 30th, 2012, 03:10 AM | #46 |
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August 30th, 2012, 06:27 AM | #47 | |
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i know how to drive a car already.i was going to take the cmsp (msf of cali)on the 28 but i canceled. by off roads you mean off of the main streets?becuase being new and riding on gravel wont end up well in the end. someday i will |
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August 30th, 2012, 06:30 AM | #48 | |
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August 30th, 2012, 06:41 AM | #49 | |
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August 30th, 2012, 07:29 AM | #50 |
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Let me just tell you my story, and let you make of it what you wish.
1. I got my license when I was 18. I had been driving a car for 2 years with a permit. 2. About 6-8 months after getting my license (and putting back money), I found a sweet deal on a Kawi Ninjette. I promptly picked up my motorcycle permit and the bike, with the money I made working fast food. 3. Now I'm 19yo, and have only had 2 minor low speed accidents on my Ninjette. Although I never rode dirt bikes or motorbikes before I bought my Ninjette, I did grow up on a farm with quads and trikes (and raced them, occasionally). I'm all for a 16yo biker, if they wear their gear, ride responsibly and prove their responsibility by paying for the hobby. |
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August 30th, 2012, 07:42 AM | #51 |
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^^ This. Very true. I would agree with this, because it applies to everything, not just driving. With proper guidance, teenage years can be a great time for learning and finding yourself and becoming an adult, without being stuck in a straight jacket waiting to grow older in the name of maturity before being allowed to experience the world a little.
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August 30th, 2012, 07:53 AM | #52 |
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Actually, righting on dirt will end great.
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August 30th, 2012, 08:31 AM | #53 |
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Apparently you missed everything I said, or have no comprehension skills. I stated that the freedom it brings, allows them to go and do whatever they want and more often than not, get into trouble for numerous/various things. It's even worse since parents these days are pretty terrible and don't know the first thing about punishing kids or keeping them "in line."
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August 30th, 2012, 08:45 AM | #54 |
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Most average humans have good morals but poor self control. Moral/immoral are pretty strong words and didn't represent your intended message.
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August 30th, 2012, 09:48 AM | #56 | ||
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The freedom that comes with a motorcycle is no different than the freedom that comes with a car or bicycle. I was on a bicycle and going wherever I wanted, whenever I wanted in middle school; but I always checked in with my parents and they knew where I was, what I was doing, and who I was with. It's no different with a car or a motorcycle. They let me roam and have freedom, but they did it in a way that was safe and still supervised. Should teenagers still be allowed to drive, even though it allows them freedom? Yes! Should teenagers be allowed on bicycles even though it allows them freedom? Yes! Should they be allowed on a motorcycle? Yes! I'm not saying all teens can handle a motorcycle, but there's no reason they should be restricted from them. As for parenting styles: Once kids get to high school, the role of mom and dad becomes that of coach, rather than attempting to control every aspect of the lives of their teenage child. No matter what parenting style you believe in, you have to admit that once you get to your teenage years, you're pretty much going to do what you want, no matter what your parents say or do to stop you. As such, parents need to step back a little and allow their kids to grow as people and become adults. If teenagers are suffocated, we rebel. If we're given much freedom, we either sink or swim. We learn from sinking; we're headstrong teenagers and nothing teaches better than a little humility from failing. The trick is letting us sink just far enough to fail without doing any permanent damage. This applies to motorcycles as well, get kids on bikes when they have supervision and guidance. If they sink, they won't be able to sink as far as if they were on their own. If they swim, congratulations! I've gotten more than my share of being kept "in line" from my parents. I love them dearly and they're great to turn to when I need advice or help. I appreciate everything they've done for me, especially now that I am older and realize the vast amount that they have done. But when I mess up, trust me, I'm the first to know about it. Parenting teenagers =/= suffocating them and telling them that they can't do something. Might as well let them learn and grow when you can keep an eye on them and still have some input on their decisions. Parenting teenagers = guiding them into adulthood while they're still under your roof. for reference, I think Regina Brett has some good points on stuff like this: http://www.cleveland.com/brett/blog/...d_kids_fl.html Quote:
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August 30th, 2012, 09:54 AM | #57 | |
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The reason I said that is because it was previously stated that teenagers are unable to control a vehicle. That statement is false. There is a period of time with your temps that you learn to control a vehicle, stay in your lane, come to a controlled stop etc. But after that, it comes down to dealing with traffic. Physically controlling the car that you're operating has nothing to do with age. You see young people driving every day. That means that young drivers can physically control a vehicle. That's all. You're right though, there is a learning period. And there is definitely reason for higher insurance rates. But a lot of that is dealing with traffic and dealing with maturity etc, not physically being able to operate a motor vehicle, which is why I said what I said. |
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August 30th, 2012, 10:13 AM | #59 | |
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August 30th, 2012, 10:22 AM | #60 |
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My hat is off to post #56.
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August 30th, 2012, 10:26 AM | #61 |
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"where do you sit on 16yo?"
in private dude, that shits illegal in most places.
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August 31st, 2012, 04:19 PM | #64 |
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If you are a 16 year old (I just turned 17 and have like 4k miles under my belt so far) who wants an R6 or ANY supersport for that matter, you are most certainly NOT responsible enough and should definitely get a pit bike or something you can do the irresponsible things you were going to do on the 600, on a 50 cc... Fall at 25mph is better than 125...
If you want a supersport for your very first bike and you're that young, ( I know because I was in this position like 6 months ago) then you don't need a motorcycle. Get a 250, you don't need any more power than that, and if you think you do we have a word for you |
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