August 31st, 2013, 04:43 PM | #1 |
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Race license
Just curious what does it take to get a race license?
I know there are different ones like WERA, CCS, AMA. Are there benefits? Or are track days more reasonable. I am not looking at getting one now just curious. |
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August 31st, 2013, 06:58 PM | #2 |
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The benefit is being able to race. Everything else is secondary.
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September 1st, 2013, 11:25 AM | #3 |
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I am getting my race license through MCRA next sat. As far as I can tell, the only advantage of having one is the ability to race. http://midwestcaferacing.com/racing/mcra-racing-clinic/
Also you can impress foxy bartenders by accidentally giving them the "wrong" ID. "Oh I'm sorry, yeah I race motorcycles. Yeah its dangerous, but sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do. By the way, what would you like for breakfast?"
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September 1st, 2013, 11:50 AM | #4 |
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Name: Chris (aka Reactor)
Location: Northern KY
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For you snot, Motoseries (OH org.) would be the "nearest" race series. Although, I also did mine with MCRA (St. Louis org). You can't go wrong with either. Here are the benefits;
You get to RACE! You get to go even faster (your as fast as the company you keep on the track) You can get discounts on gear, parts and other track events You get a whole new set of friends that are track rats, they only come for races Sub-benefits You get a cool ID You get to say "I race motocycles" You get all da ho's at da bar Club racing is pretty cool and nobody really cares how fast you are or where you place when the checkers drop. Your cool as long as you get out there, some ride it just like a track day session. But honestly, you could jump in head first into racing or do a few more track days. I say do a few more track days until you get all the gear, parts and equipment you need before thinking about racing. There are a few more expenses when it comes to racing. For example, you will need a transponder. You can buy one for $200 - $400 or rent one for $20-$35 per day. Not being ready can turn a $300 track day weekend into a $500 expense in an instant.
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September 1st, 2013, 11:52 AM | #5 |
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Racers also usually get a discount with most trackday providers. In some cases it's significant an example would be Trackdaz discount to licensed CVMA racers with $50 off a $150 trackday.
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September 1st, 2013, 12:54 PM | #6 |
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Thanks for the input. I am going to focus on getting leathers first and a few more track days. As a girl the bartender thing is not for me for me its more of a goal. I know I can do it just not sure how to. I
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September 1st, 2013, 07:25 PM | #7 |
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Can't say I agree. Maybe others don't care but I always liked winning, no matter what level of racing.
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September 1st, 2013, 07:52 PM | #8 |
The Corner Whisperer
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Context.... Meh, there is more to life than a little plastic trophy and $100. Sorry, just not that important in the grand scheme of things.
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September 2nd, 2013, 06:53 AM | #9 |
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the only reason to race is to try to win (or at least beat others). you can keep the trophy and 100 bucks - the rush of competition and satisfaction of doing something better than someone else is what a racer desires. imo THAT is the context.
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September 2nd, 2013, 07:00 AM | #10 |
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I would think there are more benefits; lines, body position, discounts, the rush, and the people you meet. At least that is what I have gathered from this thread. I would like to do the endurance race or at least try once. It sounds like fun and a good way to see how well you trained and how far you can push. It would be in a couple years before I would be comfortable but I have a goal .
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September 2nd, 2013, 08:06 AM | #11 |
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It's all about the rush of gripping 200hp between your legs while waiting to drop the clutch lever and trying to get to turn # 1 first. It's all about going 140mph at full lean with your knee on the ground as you rear wheel is laying down a black stripe of rubber over a football field long. All the awhile your only 3 inches off the rear wheel of the rider in front of you trying to make the pass before the checkered flag. I doubt your experience ether of these on a 250 but like I said It's all about the rush and that can be had on any sized bike at the track.
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September 2nd, 2013, 08:22 AM | #12 |
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^ don't doubt the rush. Considering I just had my first track day I have to work my way up to this . But you do make it sound very exciting.
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September 2nd, 2013, 10:34 AM | #13 |
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September 2nd, 2013, 10:46 AM | #14 |
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Dearest Chris, if you're not out to win you're not racing, you're just riding around the track. Trophies and money are just a plus.
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September 2nd, 2013, 11:01 AM | #15 |
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a friend of mine was going to vintage race his CB550F (now at 590cc) this weekend but the whole north east feels like its underwater today so I decided not to head up to the track to see it. but I think I will race something one day again. I used to race mx in the 80's and I'll say this you can have one fun battle between you and another guy over 18th place, but its even more fun to be battling for 1st. of course once I moved out of the novice class the firsts became 18ths.
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September 2nd, 2013, 03:37 PM | #16 |
The Corner Whisperer
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The context here is not hardcore. It's one rider asking questions after one track day. I much prefer to encourage participation. Sure, every single rider on the grid would like to take home a 1st place but there can only be one. So what is in it for the other riders? I am in it for the battle, whether it be for 1st or for last, don't matter much to me because the beers taste the same in the paddock and everyone laughs just as hard.
Still meh, time spent in the winner's circle is such a small percentage of the time spent at the track. If that is truly all your there for, you missing so much.
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September 2nd, 2013, 04:38 PM | #17 |
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I am sure everyone wants to win . I will not be in that group at least not anyway soon. I am looking for all the other benefits. Also the how to but I am not ready for that now.
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September 2nd, 2013, 04:43 PM | #18 |
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I think racing is safer than trackdays because everyone is trying to go as fast as they can instead of the few who are just cruising around the track.
Racing is fun and you could be surprised on how well you do. Running against another rider is thrilling and will stay with you for life.
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September 2nd, 2013, 04:56 PM | #19 | |
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Epic battle + winning = greatest feeling Epic battle + losing = great feeling Setting a new personal best lap time + losing = sense of acomplishment and a smile Winning will no challenge = meh I will always choose the race will the odds stacked against me vs the sure win every time. Ill never understand the feeling of those who just want to win even at the cost of a challenge. Get a racing license if you willing to sacrifice a lot for self improvment(not just riding skill) and are willing to risk utter disappointment. |
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September 2nd, 2013, 04:58 PM | #20 |
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Really do appreciate all the different points of view as well.
I must admit I have fallen in love with riding and riding on the track (so much fun). I have always been mechanical inclined and work on my own bike /cars. The bike is one of two hobbies and is just as expensive as my other hobby. The difference is I can't seam to get enough of the bike I truly enjoy it more than anything I have ever done. |
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September 2nd, 2013, 06:33 PM | #22 | |
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September 3rd, 2013, 05:27 AM | #23 |
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On a side note, does MCRA or Motoseries have calendar annual or from completion annual fee for their license.
May be something for Snot to think about, ie only a race or two left for the season if annual calendar. |
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September 3rd, 2013, 05:15 PM | #24 |
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Priority:
Raise to stock Tires Gear (leathers) Track days Exhaust + commander Classes License Race! Goal 2 years. |
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September 3rd, 2013, 10:45 PM | #25 |
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Anyone here race at Auto club speedway?
helping a friend (on the other side of the globe.) who is getting into racing after a year of track days. |
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September 4th, 2013, 08:25 AM | #26 |
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