October 1st, 2012, 05:31 PM | #81 |
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Whiskey, are you serious? Keith Code does talk about trailbraking on the dvd. wtf did you watch? Whatever it is, it surely isn't the dvd I've seen. lol
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October 1st, 2012, 05:45 PM | #82 |
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lets break it down.
we agree there is a certain amount of risk involved in being immobile on a public street. (risk: not being able to get mobile quick enough when needed... when needed could be a variety of conditions such as runaway truck, automatic driver not paying attention, driver who doesnt see you in front, goes when they see green light) we agree the amount of risk is very dependent on surroundings, and in some rare cases, almost non-existent. we agree holding a lever for extended periods is annoying. regardless of your personal justifications, you are putting yourself at risk (however small) in order to make your left arm more comfortable.
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October 1st, 2012, 06:18 PM | #83 | |
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Many lights are purposely covered sideways, so you can't see when the crossing traffic is seeing a green-yellow-red. The size of the approaching vehicle is less important to me than the speed and rate of deceleration, as well as what the face of the driver tells about his/her level of attention (many come flying at you and texting the same time).
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October 2nd, 2012, 03:13 PM | #84 | |
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Never go through a turn with the clutch in... If you go into a turn too fast you need to lean into it more and gentle roll on the throttle to make it through (or if you don't you just lowside which isn't as bad as grabbing the brakes and high siding or driving straight off the edge of the road). You can't roll on the throttle with the clutch pulled |
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October 2nd, 2012, 03:15 PM | #85 | |
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October 2nd, 2012, 03:22 PM | #86 |
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rolling off the throttle will actually send you wide before your speed slows down enough to let you bring it in more. keep the throttle the same, or continue rolling on and lean more.
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October 2nd, 2012, 04:09 PM | #87 |
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This thread is a total mess....
Your new to riding, if your riding casually, then downshift in a way that is comfortable for you and focus on keeping everything smooth. If your trying to learn to ride aggressively.... Watch all the below videos, multiple times too. Your original question is addressed at part 6 of the series starting a 4:10.
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October 2nd, 2012, 04:53 PM | #88 |
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I also reread everything in this thread to make sure I didn't miss anything.
Take the MSF as Alex suggested. Honestly.... taking the time out of your schedule to do it sucks and spending the $$ is even worse but it's totally worth it at the end of the day.
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October 3rd, 2012, 06:08 AM | #89 |
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lots fo good info. i have to stop downshifting in turns. bad habit.
when i downshift i revmatch everything out of habit from drivign other things.. ...and fyi an F550 truck weighs about 11k lbs...google it
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October 5th, 2012, 02:51 PM | #90 | ||
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I feel at more risk sitting at the back of the line, in 1st ready to move than at the front in neutral but alert, ready to click & go if I must. Quote:
Various studies put it about 50/50 for total accidents, 50% riders fault (overshoot a corner & come off, botch their braking & lowside, hit oil/gravel/wet leaves/shore covers/white lines/tram tracks ect.), 50% are multi vehicle with 81% of those being someone cuts the bike off & the bike goes into them. (I can quote the article giving the 81% if you want) |
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October 5th, 2012, 02:57 PM | #91 | |
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front of the line, in 1st ready to move. none of the hazards of the other two options listed.
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October 5th, 2012, 03:11 PM | #92 | |
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I tried it in Dublin constantly on the clutch crossing a city of a million was unpleasant to say the least, probably why the cops started teaching their riders to click into neutral. 1st option seems to be pretty much forced on everyone in the other 49... poor bastards Where I'm from gangsters are a lot less GANGSTA. shooting from a car is rare, sticking an IED under one is more common (I know, well off topic...) |
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October 5th, 2012, 03:19 PM | #94 |
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So are IEDs
& I was thinking you just lived in the wrong part of Cali. Just saying, it could always be worse... |
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October 5th, 2012, 03:25 PM | #95 |
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but regardless, i'm glad we can both agree the only reason to flick into neutral while waiting at a light is to make your hand more comfortable. and that there are numerous reasons why its a bad idea.
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October 5th, 2012, 06:19 PM | #96 |
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I still disagree that it's a bad idea here, but neither opinion is going to sway the other.
It may be a bad idea in cali, I can't say as I havn't been there, & due to a combination of bullshit laws & automatic cages it is a bad idea in other states, I'll give you that. The other reason usually given is that it reduces tension on the clutch springs, lever out results in less tension on the springs whether in neutral or in gear, lever in compresses them. Excessive time compressed can weaken them (same reason I was trained to keep my rifle uncocked unless the situation called for having one in the chamber immediately, and why we kept our mags empty for general storage with ammo seperately.) I'm better at figuring out what happens in a mechanical system when I have stripped it to pieces than looking at a diagram of it, but I've not had to take the clutch apart so I may be missing a detail somewhere. |
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October 6th, 2012, 03:30 AM | #97 |
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premature wear on the throwout bearing if you're sitting at lots of stoplights.
other than that, no reason not to sit in first. I move out of first only when I'm stuck in traffic. no filtering here, illegal and roads are too tight in the city to filter for the most part. |
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October 6th, 2012, 04:16 AM | #98 |
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I like downshifting to 1st for those pesky 45mph turns...
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October 10th, 2012, 03:05 PM | #100 |
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October 10th, 2012, 03:12 PM | #101 |
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if he takes 45mph corners in 1st gear on his trek, his legs must be massive. i'm thinking GOKU massive here. like, over 9000 massive.
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October 10th, 2012, 03:23 PM | #102 | |
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he just needs to generate 1600rpm, not too bad
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October 10th, 2012, 03:25 PM | #103 |
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October 24th, 2012, 10:15 AM | #104 |
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Code Break; Motorcyclist, article about braking and downshifting for turns. Sounds legit.
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October 24th, 2012, 11:30 AM | #105 |
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a guy on a gsxr1000 told me that old guy doesn't know what he's talking about. he had a 1000, not some pussy 750 so he must be right.
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October 24th, 2012, 12:32 PM | #106 |
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Trust the guy with the GSXR1000. At least he has the wisdom to buy the best bike.
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