motorcycle license here I come!

StephenA · January 4th, 2013, 05:20 PM

just got a call from the local community college that a spot to take the msf this weekend opened up and i jumped on it. so I'll be taking it this weekend and going to be one step closer to being a rider >

. super excited!

himynameisjoe · January 4th, 2013, 05:23 PM

Congrats mate!! Have fun and remember everything you learn!

StephenA · January 4th, 2013, 05:35 PM

thanks man I plan to!

csmith12 · January 4th, 2013, 05:38 PM

Good luck and remember to have fun!

Motofool · January 4th, 2013, 06:49 PM

You will learn many new things in two days.

You could advance some reading:

http://msf-usa.org/CurriculumMateria...ndbook2011.pdf

http://msf-usa.org/index_new.cfm?spl...gename=Library

n4mwd · January 5th, 2013, 06:05 AM

Just don't forget to practice the slow tight cornering. That's the hard part.

StephenA · January 6th, 2013, 05:14 PM

I just finished today. It was so much fun and i learned a ton. definitely a great way to spend he weekend. so alls i got to do now is get my license and then my bike!

csmith12 · January 6th, 2013, 05:24 PM

Gratz and welcome to the M club!

DreamN · January 6th, 2013, 05:59 PM

Where are you taking it? Wondering if you're local or not. I took mine at Pierce College in Winnetka, CA (San Fernando Valley). Great instructors there. Had a blast, even in the rain.

himynameisjoe · January 6th, 2013, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StephenA

I just finished today. It was so much fun and i learned a ton. definitely a great way to spend he weekend. so alls i got to do now is get my license and then my bike!

Wait you don't get your license for completing the MSF there? Well that sucks...

Alex · January 6th, 2013, 06:23 PM

The MSF cert means you don't have to take the riding test at the DMV to get a license in CA. But you still need to take the written test.

skilletmo · January 6th, 2013, 06:24 PM

You take the MSF Certificate to the dps office and then they charge you like 15 bucks, take a picture, and you get an M class endorsement added on your NEW license.

Motofool · January 6th, 2013, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StephenA

.......so alls i got to do now is get my license and then my bike!

.......250r or 300 for a first bike?

Congratulations, Stephen

Go for a 250 pre-gen !!!

himynameisjoe · January 6th, 2013, 06:42 PM

Hmm interesting. lol. I had to take my written DMV test before I could even take my MSF and then of course I took the written MSF test as well. Both extremely easy though.

csmith12 · January 6th, 2013, 06:56 PM

In KY you still have to take the written test and keep your permit 6 months MSF or no MSF. Maybe that's it?

Byakkotai · January 6th, 2013, 07:13 PM

Yeppo, if you're under 21 in Cali I think MSF is required before you can get your M1. I think the have a permit for a length of time only applies to those under 18 here.

Either way, congrats OP! What bikes were on the range at your location and which one did you choose

Z300 · January 6th, 2013, 07:23 PM

gratz go for the 250! new gen

lgk · January 6th, 2013, 08:53 PM

i would go for the old gen.

rojoracing53 · January 6th, 2013, 09:18 PM

Does anyone even still just take the cone test at the DMV anymore?

himynameisjoe · January 6th, 2013, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rojoracing53

Does anyone even still just take the cone test at the DMV anymore?

lol probably not. I mean what's the point?

rojoracing53 · January 6th, 2013, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himynameisjoe

lol probably not. I mean what's the point?

I'm not knocking those who take the MSF with zero riding skills because let's be honest where else can you hop on a bike and learn with no experience. But at the same time I also see the MSF as a $250 bribe to the state so you can get a license with nearly zero chance at failing. I know I'm going to ruffle some feathers hear but I've heard some amazing stories of riders clearly unsafe to handle a motorcycle being passed. I've also seen my share of riders on the street that make me think that that person doesn't belong on a bike. Motorcycles just carry to high a penalty to those who can't handle them. So when the system allows someone to essentially pay $250 to ride in 15mph circles and cram for a written test, then is given full access to 200hp machines it needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.

Note: I don't think passing the DMV cone test proves your any better of a rider because simply put the cone test is a bigger joke then the MSF passing ever student indiscriminately.

Im glad you have joined us here and have chosen a sensible bike to start on I wish you safe and fun learning experience. If you have a chance to hop on a dirt bike with some friends don't pass it up you'll learn a lot.

himynameisjoe · January 6th, 2013, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rojoracing53

I'm not knocking those who take the MSF with zero riding skills because let's be honest where else can you hop on a bike and learn with no experience. But at the same time I also see the MSF as a $250 bribe to the state so you can get a license with nearly zero chance at failing. I know I'm going to ruffle some feathers hear but I've heard some amazing stories of riders clearly unsafe to handle a motorcycle being passed. I've also seen my share of riders on the street that make me think that that person doesn't belong on a bike. Motorcycles just carry to high a penalty to those who can't handle them. So when the system allows someone to essentially pay $250 to ride in 15mph circles and cram for a written test, then is given full access to 200hp machines it needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.

Note: I don't think passing the DMV cone test proves your any better of a rider because simply put the cone test is a bigger joke then the MSF passing ever student indiscriminately.

Im glad you have joined us here and have chosen a sensible bike to start on I wish you safe and fun learning experience. If you have a chance to hop on a dirt bike with some friends don't pass it up you'll learn a lot.

O in my defense I kinda forgot other states make you pay haha Ours is free here. So really. Why not? lol

And yes they definitely just pass people. There was a lady in mine that was scared to lean the bike, so she pretty much did the entire course at like 8 MPH. She passed.

rojoracing53 · January 6th, 2013, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himynameisjoe

O in my defense I kinda forgot other states make you pay haha Ours is free here. So really. Why not? lol

And yes they definitely just pass people. There was a lady in mine that was scared to lean the bike, so she pretty much did the entire course at like 8 MPH. She passed.

Oh @CycleCam303 is going to hate that part about being free. Every time someone says the letters MSF he starts crying about how he wasted $250 that could have gone to better gear on a class I told him he didn't need to take. Oh well live and learn I guess

skilletmo · January 6th, 2013, 11:50 PM

In Texas you do need to take the written test too, but its easy as sh1t. My down syndrome brother could pass it lol. 200$ for an MSF course is a pain but hey, its worth it if you dont have anyone to teach you the basic tricks and skills.

tfkrocks · January 7th, 2013, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byakkotai

Yeppo, if you're under 21 in Cali I think MSF is required before you can get your M1. I think the have a permit for a length of time only applies to those under 18 here.

That is correct, MSF course is required for under 21 years old. I think they changed the permit rules recently though. My friend is 18, got her permit, but still has to wait 6 months to get the license. She already took the MSF course too. I sure as hell didn't need to wait when I got mine a few years ago.

lgk · January 7th, 2013, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himynameisjoe

There was a lady in mine that was scared to lean the bike, so she pretty much did the entire course at like 8 MPH. She passed.

She probably passed all the handling sections, but failed all the timed portions.

Guy in my class failed because he cornered too wide.

n4mwd · January 7th, 2013, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rojoracing53

I'm not knocking those who take the MSF with zero riding skills because let's be honest where else can you hop on a bike and learn with no experience. But at the same time I also see the MSF as a $250 bribe to the state so you can get a license with nearly zero chance at failing. I know I'm going to ruffle some feathers hear but I've heard some amazing stories of riders clearly unsafe to handle a motorcycle being passed. I've also seen my share of riders on the street that make me think that that person doesn't belong on a bike. Motorcycles just carry to high a penalty to those who can't handle them. So when the system allows someone to essentially pay $250 to ride in 15mph circles and cram for a written test, then is given full access to 200hp machines it needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.

Here in FL we are required to take the MSF regardless of experience level. And pay the $250. The only way out is to come from another state and already have the endorsement. However, the bright side is that there is no testing at the DMV. Just being your $150, birth certificate, electric bill, magazine subscription, and a parent (if you are under 18) and then they take your photo and hand you a license. Don't forget to ask for a renewal or else they wont renew it.

In my case, I was a pity pass. I didn't do well at all on the riding test, but I got a 100% on the written. But at the same time, I would bet that I have more riding experience now (2 yrs later) than most of the others there (excluding the pre-experienced riders). Most of them looked like weekend rider types. I'm looking at nearly 20K miles in two years and none of it is riding like grandma.

And definitely buy a ninjette for your first bike. The pregen fits my personality better than the newgen, but the 300 is probably also good.

csmith12 · January 7th, 2013, 06:58 AM

IMHO a good MSF instructor will teach you as much as possible in the time provided and only judge that you can abide by the laws of the road. How fast you go or proficiency with the controls is irrelevant.

Sadly the tolerance of "road etiquette" and the law don't match. So most will judge that some can't ride or drive their way out of a wet paper bag.

I don't think there is such thing as a "pitty pass", it's just that the bar is set that low.

rojoracing53 · January 7th, 2013, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n4mwd

Here in FL we are required to take the MSF regardless of experience level. And pay the $250. The only way out is to come from another state and already have the endorsement. However, the bright side is that there is no testing at the DMV. Just being your $150, birth certificate, electric bill, magazine subscription, and a parent (if you are under 18) and then they take your photo and hand you a license. Don't forget to ask for a renewal or else they wont renew it.

In my case, I was a pity pass. I didn't do well at all on the riding test, but I got a 100% on the written. But at the same time, I would bet that I have more riding experience now (2 yrs later) than most of the others there (excluding the pre-experienced riders). Most of them looked like weekend rider types. I'm looking at nearly 20K miles in two years and none of it is riding like grandma.

And definitely buy a ninjette for your first bike. The pregen fits my personality better than the newgen, but the 300 is probably also good.

lgk · January 7th, 2013, 07:17 AM

imo, as a person who never rode a motorcycle before the BRC, i thought it was a pretty good course.

in my case it was $135
which is not too bad for a two day class, and 10 hours of practical skills training.

stablgr · January 7th, 2013, 07:28 AM

@StephenA. Congrats on the MSF. First rung on a lifetime of learning to ride.

Curious how my name ended up in your signature??

csmith12 · January 7th, 2013, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stablgr

Curious how my name ended up in your signature??

Gary, this site uses a sneaky function, [ you ] (without spaces). It will replace that tag with the person's username who is logged in and reading the thread. You will see it in other threads and even in thread titles.

When I look at his sig, it says; csmith12, 250r or 300 for a first bike?

stablgr · January 7th, 2013, 07:34 AM

Ah ok, thanks for that. Just proves that you're never too old to learn something new!

himynameisjoe · January 7th, 2013, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lgk

She probably passed all the handling sections, but failed all the timed portions.

Guy in my class failed because he cornered too wide.

Honestly I don't think she did that either! I KNOW I saw her fail the box.

In her and everyone else in my class that failed's offense though, they all had those horrible Kawi eliminators. I showed up 30 minutes early just to claim the only TU250 they had

I can't do forward controls and low peg scrapping bikes.

StephenA · January 7th, 2013, 10:23 PM

wow this turned into a slightly larger canversation than I anticipated. But I spent 150 since I am under 21. so all in all i think it was money well spent. i learned a lot especially looking in a turn and quick stopping. Crazy how you WILL go where your eyes are.

O and someone asked whatke used. There wasn't a large selection and I was assigned to a tiny Suziki GN125 i believe. haha was like riding a poclet bike.

O and someone else asked where I took it. I took it at Cerritos College here in Cerritos off of the 5 frwy.

lgk · January 8th, 2013, 10:39 AM

lol, i cant believe you had a 125.

i bet the test was real easy

n4mwd · January 8th, 2013, 11:35 AM

I think the Eliminators are all 125cc aren't they? When I took it, it was an issue because I dropped the bike after it stalled in a tight curve. A 250cc probably wouldn't have stalled like that.

dave42 · January 8th, 2013, 12:55 PM

Yup, the MSF Eliminators are 125's. I wish we had 250's in the class but eh, 125s worked out okay I think.

DreamN · January 8th, 2013, 01:03 PM

I took my MSF on a Shadowhawk 250. Enjoyed her and dropped her once. Mind you The second day was done in rain and I did happen to grab the brake lever a tad to much while coming to a stop.

GreenNinja · January 8th, 2013, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rojoracing53

Does anyone even still just take the cone test at the DMV anymore?

I took the cone test because I there were no MSF courses open when the price of gas skyrocketed to $3.50.

Congrats @StephenA

January 4th, 2013, 05:20 PM	#1
StephenA Riding Ruby.. Name: Stephen Location: SoCal Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Yamaha Bolt R-Spec, 2007 Ninja 250R Posts: 392	motorcycle license here I come! just got a call from the local community college that a spot to take the msf this weekend opened up and i jumped on it. so I'll be taking it this weekend and going to be one step closer to being a rider >. super excited! __________________________________________________ Unregistered

January 4th, 2013, 05:23 PM	#2
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January 4th, 2013, 05:35 PM	#3
StephenA Riding Ruby.. Name: Stephen Location: SoCal Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Yamaha Bolt R-Spec, 2007 Ninja 250R Posts: 392	thanks man I plan to! __________________________________________________ Unregistered

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StephenA Riding Ruby.. Name: Stephen Location: SoCal Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Yamaha Bolt R-Spec, 2007 Ninja 250R Posts: 392	I just finished today. It was so much fun and i learned a ton. definitely a great way to spend he weekend. so alls i got to do now is get my license and then my bike! __________________________________________________ Unregistered

January 6th, 2013, 05:24 PM	#8
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Gratz and welcome to the M club! __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

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DreamN Beer Me! Name: Jimmy Location: SoCal 818 Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 Car(s): '09 Cube, '93 240SX (Coupe & 'Vert) Posts: 144	Where are you taking it? Wondering if you're local or not. I took mine at Pierce College in Winnetka, CA (San Fernando Valley). Great instructors there. Had a blast, even in the rain.

January 6th, 2013, 06:23 PM	#11
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	The MSF cert means you don't have to take the riding test at the DMV to get a license in CA. But you still need to take the written test. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

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skilletmo InfoWhore Name: Melashi Location: 75081 Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 StreetFighter ~~~~ 2005 KTM 450 EXC Posts: 628	You take the MSF Certificate to the dps office and then they charge you like 15 bucks, take a picture, and you get an M class endorsement added on your NEW license. __________________________________________________ Everyone, go buy a dirtbike hurry

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himynameisjoe ninjette.org sage Name: Joe Location: Lancaster, PA Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250(Totaled) Posts: 984 Blog Entries: 2	Hmm interesting. lol. I had to take my written DMV test before I could even take my MSF and then of course I took the written MSF test as well. Both extremely easy though. __________________________________________________ "I am a creationist, I believe man created god."

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csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	In KY you still have to take the written test and keep your permit 6 months MSF or no MSF. Maybe that's it? __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

January 6th, 2013, 07:13 PM	#16
Byakkotai ninjette.org guru Name: Roger Location: NorCali - East Bay Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 White Ninja 300 Posts: 379	Yeppo, if you're under 21 in Cali I think MSF is required before you can get your M1. I think the have a permit for a length of time only applies to those under 18 here. Either way, congrats OP! What bikes were on the range at your location and which one did you choose

January 6th, 2013, 07:23 PM	#17
Z300 Ninja noobie Name: NOOBIE Location: Sydney Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250r Posts: 498	gratz go for the 250! new gen

January 6th, 2013, 08:53 PM	#18
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	i would go for the old gen. __________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700

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rojoracing53 Fast-Guy wannabe Name: Jason Location: Brentwood, Ca Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja250, 2011 RM-Z250, 2004 NSR50, Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '13	Does anyone even still just take the cone test at the DMV anymore?

January 6th, 2013, 11:50 PM	#24
skilletmo InfoWhore Name: Melashi Location: 75081 Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 StreetFighter ~~~~ 2005 KTM 450 EXC Posts: 628	In Texas you do need to take the written test too, but its easy as sh1t. My down syndrome brother could pass it lol. 200$ for an MSF course is a pain but hey, its worth it if you dont have anyone to teach you the basic tricks and skills. __________________________________________________ Everyone, go buy a dirtbike hurry

January 7th, 2013, 06:58 AM	#28
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	IMHO a good MSF instructor will teach you as much as possible in the time provided and only judge that you can abide by the laws of the road. How fast you go or proficiency with the controls is irrelevant. Sadly the tolerance of "road etiquette" and the law don't match. So most will judge that some can't ride or drive their way out of a wet paper bag. I don't think there is such thing as a "pitty pass", it's just that the bar is set that low. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

January 7th, 2013, 07:17 AM	#30
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	imo, as a person who never rode a motorcycle before the BRC, i thought it was a pretty good course. in my case it was $135 which is not too bad for a two day class, and 10 hours of practical skills training. __________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700

January 7th, 2013, 07:28 AM	#31
stablgr ninjette.org newbie Name: Gary Location: Houston Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): Honda CRF (2). Boardman SLR (ok so it's only a bicycle, but its carbon fibre) Posts: 9	@StephenA. Congrats on the MSF. First rung on a lifetime of learning to ride. Curious how my name ended up in your signature??

January 7th, 2013, 07:34 AM	#33
stablgr ninjette.org newbie Name: Gary Location: Houston Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): Honda CRF (2). Boardman SLR (ok so it's only a bicycle, but its carbon fibre) Posts: 9	Ah ok, thanks for that. Just proves that you're never too old to learn something new!

January 7th, 2013, 10:23 PM	#35
StephenA Riding Ruby.. Name: Stephen Location: SoCal Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Yamaha Bolt R-Spec, 2007 Ninja 250R Posts: 392	wow this turned into a slightly larger canversation than I anticipated. But I spent 150 since I am under 21. so all in all i think it was money well spent. i learned a lot especially looking in a turn and quick stopping. Crazy how you WILL go where your eyes are. O and someone asked whatke used. There wasn't a large selection and I was assigned to a tiny Suziki GN125 i believe. haha was like riding a poclet bike. O and someone else asked where I took it. I took it at Cerritos College here in Cerritos off of the 5 frwy. __________________________________________________ Unregistered

January 8th, 2013, 10:39 AM	#36
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	lol, i cant believe you had a 125. i bet the test was real easy __________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700

January 8th, 2013, 11:35 AM	#37
n4mwd ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: D Location: Palm Beach, FL Join Date: Oct 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250R, 2007 EFI Ninja 250R Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	I think the Eliminators are all 125cc aren't they? When I took it, it was an issue because I dropped the bike after it stalled in a tight curve. A 250cc probably wouldn't have stalled like that. __________________________________________________ My Ninja Blog Proud member of ABATE.My NYC Road Rage documentary - CENSORED!

January 8th, 2013, 12:55 PM	#38
dave42 ninjette.org guru Name: dave Location: Pasadena Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250, ZX6r, RSV4, Caponord Rally Posts: 267	Yup, the MSF Eliminators are 125's. I wish we had 250's in the class but eh, 125s worked out okay I think.

January 8th, 2013, 01:03 PM	#39
DreamN Beer Me! Name: Jimmy Location: SoCal 818 Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 Car(s): '09 Cube, '93 240SX (Coupe & 'Vert) Posts: 144	I took my MSF on a Shadowhawk 250. Enjoyed her and dropped her once. Mind you The second day was done in rain and I did happen to grab the brake lever a tad to much while coming to a stop.

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