November 19th, 2012, 04:15 PM | #1 |
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California Superbike School 2013 Schedule!
The 2013 schedule is now posted!
http://www.superbikeschool.com/schedule/ I should be able to get to Vegas, The Ridge and a few of the California tracks to coach next year depending on the kids.......YAY!!! Misti
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November 19th, 2012, 04:19 PM | #2 |
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Thanks Misti!
I am thinking VIR this year. Common sponsors come through for me so I can afford this.
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November 19th, 2012, 04:25 PM | #4 |
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Hey Misti, question for you.
Can you explain this please? May 13 Virginia International Raceway (North) All Levels 475/675 May 14 Virginia International Raceway (North) All Levels 475/675 May 15/16 Virginia International Raceway (North) 2-Day Camp 2450 Why is there a big price jump for the 15th/16th combo day when you could do the 13th/14th for $1350? Am I missing something? What is the cost for a 2 day camp on your own bike?
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November 19th, 2012, 06:16 PM | #5 | |
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November 19th, 2012, 06:45 PM | #6 |
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Thanks!
Bring the school to South Florida, Misti: perfect weather year around, lots of squids and wealthy riders.
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November 19th, 2012, 08:26 PM | #7 |
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I am debating doing the one day at Barber or just doing a track day on my bike this summer at Little Tally. The Superbike school will end up costing quite a bit more but I will be coached on how to really ride and I will get to ride a BMW S1000RR all for $690 dollars and a huge deposit!!!
I have never been on the track before so maybe I should get some experience there first before I go to a school so I am not overwhelmed. And then do the school the next summer or when I have more money. Idk. I am just a college kid which means I don't have much money, so I am looking for the best bang for the buck. Maybe I should start a new thread somewhere.... What should I do? |
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November 19th, 2012, 08:43 PM | #8 |
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Go to a track day. Do not do superbike school.
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November 20th, 2012, 12:32 PM | #9 |
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In your shoes... try before you buy. $$ is just to hard to come by these days. If you play your cards right, you could spend a lot less than 7 big faces hitting the track for the first time.
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November 20th, 2012, 12:42 PM | #10 |
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But if u play em wrong it could be $1200 lol
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November 20th, 2012, 02:47 PM | #11 |
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Thanks for the responses guys. Yeah after thinking about it more I also decided track day first. Then Superbike school in the future if I get hooked on track riding. And hopefully I will get to the track for half of what it cost Jiggles. Haha.
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November 20th, 2012, 03:01 PM | #12 |
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The next one is just trackday + gas + food + uhaul trailer
Should be a bit cheaper
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November 20th, 2012, 03:22 PM | #13 | |
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Back to my question. I did some research and it looks like the "camp" get you the following; Better rider to coach ratio (2:1) - more personal attention Access to the "special skills" bikes - brake, slide, lean and camera bikes 1 on 1 review of riding footage Ride your bike or a CSS bike - any problem doing a half and half for that? Gear rental is included in the cost Food & Drink for day I see why the price is different now.
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November 20th, 2012, 03:30 PM | #14 |
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So what happens if you crash one of their bikes
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November 20th, 2012, 03:33 PM | #15 |
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They keep your damage deductible.
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November 20th, 2012, 03:35 PM | #16 |
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If the deductible is low enough I'd go. No way I want to be on the hook for crashing a superbike though
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November 20th, 2012, 03:36 PM | #17 |
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I want to ride that slide/lean bike. That would be killer.
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November 20th, 2012, 03:56 PM | #18 |
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Google-fu looks like it's either $1K or $1,250 if you bin one of the BMW's. Looks like there is also an option to pay more up front, to have zero liability if you do tip over.
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November 20th, 2012, 04:00 PM | #19 |
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November 20th, 2012, 04:20 PM | #20 | ||
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Actually there are a lot more differences in the two day camps vs the single day, hence the price difference. They are: Two day camp: Available on the school bikes only, BMW S1000's (with four 800's available if you wish to ride one of them). During a two day camp you get 5 classroom sessions and 7 riding sessions of at least 20 minutes. Student to coach ratio is no more than 2:1 and during every riding session you will be followed and lead on track by your coach and then debriefed afterwards. There are less students overall at a two day camp which means that you will be on track with less than 15 students + coaches at a time. Format of the day is classroom, ride, classroom, ride etc. Also, during a two day camp, all the off track training bikes (Lean/slide bike, brake bike and the No BS bike for the steering drill) are available for use depending on the track and weather conditions. You will also get to ride the camera bike once per day, have your video reviewed by a qualified coach and receive a DVD of both your camera bike riding sessions at the end of the school. Lunch, snacks, tea, coffee and water are all provided. Single Day School: You can use one of the school bikes or bring your own bike. There are 5 classroom sessions and 5 riding sessions of at least 20 minutes. Student to coach ratio is no more than 3:1 and same as the camp you are lead and followed by your coach each session out and then debriefed after. Format for the day is Classroom, ride, break, classroom, ride, break. At a single school depending on the level you are taking you can do one of the off track bikes. Level one is the steering drill (No BS bike), level 2 the Lean Bike, level three gets a video review session and level four can ride the slide bike. There is no camera bike available in a single day school. There are more students total during a single day so you are on track with more riders at a time, no more than 22 I think at a time. Both options will give you an incredible experience and will improve your riding tremendously but you do get more value during the two day camp and a lot more one on coaching and off track training. Quote:
The good thing about doing a school before you do a regular track day is that you will learn the proper skills right off the bat and reduce your chances of crashing (which costs time and money) and reduces the chance that you will have to unlearn any bad habits when you finally do make the school. I've been a coach with them for the past 8 years and have also taken all four levels as a student so let me know if you have any specific questions. Misti
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So what kind of food do they serve and is it open bar? 5 or 4 star hotel? Who pays for gas? Does the $2400 include the insurance deductable? Will there be women available (what's the rent)? Do you get a free T-shirt? Do you get a trophy? Will they be at the new Texas track next year? If so, will it be before or after the MotoGP and do you get a free ticket to the race. Is it half price if you have done it before? Are there group rates, family rates, discounts for looking good?
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November 20th, 2012, 04:50 PM | #22 |
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Thanks Misti! Always a pleasure.
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November 20th, 2012, 06:55 PM | #23 |
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My buddy just completed this school. The s1000rr statistically has been shown to be safer because of all of the aids (lean sensor, brake assist, etc.) ...He said there have been only two drops by students since they introduced the bike a couple years ago.
I'm torn whether I should take the course here or go to California. I was looking to ride the Pacific Coast next year with a rental. Might be a great trip after riding in this course. I also have a wedding to go to..I'm thinking I may need to have a long two weeks worth of activities. |
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November 23rd, 2012, 03:31 PM | #24 | |
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No problemmo
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The bikes are amazing and next year they will have a fleet of all new, 2013 1000rr's! As for where to take the course, let me know if you have any questions about any of the tracks in CA, vs the ones you are thinking are closer to you. I've ridden almost all of them so perhaps I could help you out... Misti
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November 23rd, 2012, 04:56 PM | #25 | |
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Is there any benefit to doing 2 (1 day) sessions back to back? I was considering the May 20/21 dates at Thunderbolt. I'm an intermediate rider with about 2 solid years of trackdays. I think we did 10-12 last year at NJMP in total. My understanding is the 1 day courses you use your own bike and provide your own creature comforts. (food, housing etc) |
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November 24th, 2012, 02:14 PM | #26 |
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Misti,
A question from one of our users in a trackday group on facebook: "For the super bike school, do you have to start at level 1? I'm curious because the first 2 levels would be me basically throwing my money away. I don't want to spend $1k on levels I'm already passed. You know?" Do they evaluate you or can you take the courses in any combination? Thanks, Kevin |
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Single days you can bring your own bike or you can rent a school bike. The School provides the food, snacks, water, coffee etc but not the hotel or transportation. On a single day you have 5 seminars and 5 on track riding sessions. Quote:
Just because you are taking level one doesn't mean there is a limit on speed, you can go as fast as you want as long as you are working on the specific drills. The first lesson of level one is throttle control and no matter how good a rider you are, you can always work to improve the basics like throttle control, quick turning, body position, etc... Hope that answers the question. Let me know it there are any more! Misti
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November 27th, 2012, 03:48 PM | #28 |
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there is always room to improve your basic skills. thinking that you don't need to improve is just your ego trying to do you wrong.
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Most people will admit that they still could use practice and learn new things while riding a bike, but ask that same person if they want tips or advice on driving their car. You're instantly a backseat driver and they get pissed. With a bike, you're a good friend looking out... weird.
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If I get any faster I'll have to wear a helmet (so people don't recognize me).
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Alternatively, some riders are like that. And lets face it, if Leon Camier would come back and take level 1 again. It will go one of two ways. He will take to it with a smile, knowing the benefits of practice, no matter the speed or he will just go through the motions... kinda meh. Ask the majority of very experienced riders here if they would "pay" to retake the MSF. lol After the initial hiss and scoffs, you will find a few that would. Now there is the biggest factor called "bang for the buck". As the FB rider asked if he could skip level 1 or even level 2. If that rider can prove he has a firm grasp of the basics beyond level 1, do we really need to pay such premium for a "practice session"? Why would we one could simply to a track day for much cheaper and possibly more track.. ummm, I mean practice time. It's between a rock and a hard place for businesses that provide skills based curriculum. And.... you can't satisfy everyone.
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November 27th, 2012, 04:26 PM | #33 |
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@Misti, I would be interested to know if there has ever been a rider to enroll as level 1 and "evaluated" to be a higher level and an "on the spot" adjustment made. Similar to a track day where a novice rider is bumped by a control rider vs. a self assessment.
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Chris, you're not the good. It's all the bike. Every 250 rider thinks they are the best. It's just the bike.
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November 27th, 2012, 04:34 PM | #35 |
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lol.... dood
I would gladly take level 1. My paper is a limiting factor but not an object. Premium price or not, it would not stand in the way of my goals. Others do not share this same opinion.
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November 27th, 2012, 04:50 PM | #36 |
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I would take the MSF again, and I do plan to on my own bike once I get it. I also want to take the BRC2 and the Advanced Riding course. But I may be bias because it's free here. It's different when you have to shell out money, I know.
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November 27th, 2012, 05:15 PM | #37 |
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it would be a whole lot of fun to take brc again... i would work hard on trying to powerslide the box (aka trying to crash) and stoppying those little 125s at the ebrake lesson
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November 27th, 2012, 05:18 PM | #38 |
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This is a good point... haha considering that we already have our license and everything, who says we couldn't wreck havoc Wonder what an instructor would do if the entire group was just messing around trying to do stupid stuff? haha that could be funny... not that I'd ever do that...
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November 27th, 2012, 05:36 PM | #39 |
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Can we play stupid noob and do as many burn outs as possible until they're out of tires?
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November 27th, 2012, 05:42 PM | #40 |
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haha I think that would be fine... Ninjette.org group MSF course?
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