June 25th, 2011, 07:36 AM | #1 |
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Need some help
Bike is not idling like it supposed to, Had the valves checked and a new front tire installed, mechanic said it was running rough after it was reassembled, he worked on it awhile, then I got it back. Did find a hose that comes from between the carbs and goes.......where.
where does this hose that the screwdriver is pointing to go??? TIA NB
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June 25th, 2011, 01:04 PM | #2 |
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Also, it takes full choke to start it, if it will start. When it catches, it will run really rough, try to give it some throttle and it will die. After a a few min, the rpms catch and it revs up to over 4K. Slack off the choke, even a very small amount and the rpms drop and she dies. The hose in question wasn't plugged into anything that I could find. But, if I put my finger over it, it dies. Replaced the plugs, and tightened one of the boots holding the carb on, and smoothed out a little, but it is still not rideable.
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June 25th, 2011, 02:01 PM | #3 |
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hose is carb vent line... doesn't connect to anything.
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June 25th, 2011, 02:08 PM | #4 |
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Thanks Kelly. I take it from the link I need to clean the carbs. But, will it go from running like a top to hardly running at all over night? Already thought about cleaning the carbs, but wanted to check and see if it might something a little simpler, since it was in the shop. Not going to go into why she is not going back to the same shop.
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June 25th, 2011, 02:12 PM | #5 |
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how long has it been sitting w/o use?
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June 25th, 2011, 03:07 PM | #6 |
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It went from about mid october, when the tank and carbs were drained for shipping, got here around mid december, gassed it up and rode it to the shop around mid march, bike ran perfect. Shop said that it was running rough on the test ride and said they would work on it some more, after about a month, most of which I was out of town, I decided to get it and try to figure it out, since they were not having any luck, (and found out they were not a Kawasaki motorcycle shop, just 4 wheelers) plus after getting the fairings off I found some things that I didn't like and more than likely won't be going back to that shop.
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June 25th, 2011, 03:13 PM | #7 |
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yep, you can start to have problems with the gas clogging up the carb jets in as little as a month. do they have ethanol in the gas there like they do in Hawaii?
refill w/ fresh fuel, add some seafoam and see if it helps. |
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June 26th, 2011, 06:46 PM | #8 |
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Kelly, pulled the carbs, cleaned like in the DIY link, no change. As for the ethanol, yes, most of the gas stations I have seen have it.
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June 26th, 2011, 06:55 PM | #9 |
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Sounds like it could be fuel starvation. You gettin fuel to the carbs ok?
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June 26th, 2011, 07:16 PM | #10 |
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should be, after I reinstalled the carbs, turned the knob to prime, and in a few minutes started it up. I 've called it quits for the night, but I was trying to get running, and it started sounding right, but then it went back to sounding and acting like it was firing on one cylinder.
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June 26th, 2011, 07:36 PM | #11 |
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pull the plugs and check them. have they been changed recently? look at the old plugs and see if there is a noticeable difference between them.
while you have them out, check that there's a nice healthy spark from each. how's the bike run with the choke on? |
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June 26th, 2011, 07:44 PM | #12 |
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Plugs are new, both have a healthly spark, although one was a little wet. After it warms up, the bike runs pretty good with full choke, although about 4K, whereas it did run around 3K before.
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June 26th, 2011, 07:47 PM | #13 |
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if I had to guess, I'd say your pilot circuits are still clogged. when you cleaned it out, did you also clean out the air passages the pilot jets screw into with some compressed air?
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June 26th, 2011, 07:50 PM | #14 |
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hmm, no, didn't think about that. Anything that I have take off after I pull the jets, before I blow compressed air through there?
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June 26th, 2011, 08:05 PM | #15 |
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no, just try to blow the passages out from the opposite direction that fuel flows through them. if compressed air doesn't do the job, perhaps use some carb cleaner in a can and use the small plastic straw aimed into the exit hole to back flush whatever may be clogged in there.
there was one case where the member separated the carbs and soaked them in those carb cleaning buckets with great results, but that's kinda extreme and you really need to be aware of not soaking rubber parts in that carb cleaner bucket. |
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June 26th, 2011, 08:10 PM | #16 |
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hmm, ok, I wil have to get some carb cleaner tomorrow after work and try that.
I'll let you know how it comes out. Thanks nb
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June 27th, 2011, 06:15 PM | #17 |
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got some carb cleaner, removed the carbs one more time, and cleaned them with carb cleaner, sprayed out the jets and the like. No change. But I have figured out that it is only firing on the left cylinder, right one doesn't seem to be firing at all.
suggestions??? nb
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June 27th, 2011, 06:42 PM | #18 |
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have you tried switching the plugs around to see if the problem follows the plugs?
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June 27th, 2011, 06:49 PM | #19 | |
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June 27th, 2011, 06:52 PM | #20 |
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switch the plugs left and right. if the problem switches to the other side, you have a bad plug. if nothing changes, something is wrong on the bike side.
only thing I see that connects to the plugs are the coils and the CDI. make sure the connectors are clean and "making" properly. http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35886 |
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June 27th, 2011, 07:05 PM | #21 |
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Will the bike idle after it is warm. If not, have you adjusted the idle?
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June 27th, 2011, 07:10 PM | #22 |
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Will the bike idle after it is warm. If not, have you adjusted the idle?
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June 27th, 2011, 08:11 PM | #24 |
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Plug wire?? Spray a fine mist of water on and near the wires in a low light condition when the bike is running. Look for the spark.
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June 28th, 2011, 11:39 AM | #25 |
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Try turning the idle adjustment screw. See if that affects your idle problem.
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June 28th, 2011, 03:04 PM | #26 |
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If you get a chance I wouldn't mind hearing more about it. I live in Hsv as well so it'd be good to know who to avoid.
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June 28th, 2011, 06:27 PM | #28 |
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meaning... when you switched plugs, you're still not firing/sparking on the same cylinder?
loose strap... as in loose carb clamp? if it's loose, tighten it up. still doesn't account for one spark plug not firing. |
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June 28th, 2011, 06:57 PM | #30 |
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if you've checked both plugs and they are both good, it sounds like something electrical. But, I'm still not clear... are you getting spark at both cylinders?
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June 28th, 2011, 07:01 PM | #31 |
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June 28th, 2011, 07:04 PM | #32 |
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then scratch the electrical comment. I'd be looking for loose clamps or loose vacuum hoses.
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June 28th, 2011, 07:11 PM | #33 |
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hmm, ok, start looking for that tomorrow, I sipping rum now.
thanks Kelly nb
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Since he's getting good spark at both plugs, could the bike be running on only one carb for some reason?
Chris - has it had this problem since the valve adjustment?
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