couple of issues

Old Lemon · May 19th, 2014, 08:59 PM

so i was able to ride around the neighborhood today after my crash at the track last week. I noticed a couple of things:

slightly bent handle bar; no problem, i can get another from woodcraft for 15$

the bike wont start when it is in gear. Basically it is as if the kickstand is down. It starts in neutral just fine, as well as shifts to first just fine. But with the kickstand up (and yes i made sure it was up) the bike would not start or even attempt to while it was in first gear.

And my brakes felt pretty spongy. It has not leaked any sort of fluids and i just got new ss brake lines installed about a week before the crash.

I will be going out of town for 2 weeks and this ride was the only time i had available to ride it around to look for problems, so this is all i could find. So what do you guys think?

cuong-nutz · May 19th, 2014, 09:10 PM

Broken or loose clutch switch at lever I suppose. Could just bleed the brakes and see.

Motofool · May 20th, 2014, 03:39 AM

Copied from:
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Underst...afety_switches

"A bike can be started:
in neutral with the side stand down and the clutch out
in neutral, with the side stand up and the clutch out
in gear, with the side stand down and the clutch in
in gear, with the side stand up and the clutch in "

When the bike gets upside down, some of the air in the reservoir can sneak into the system and get trapped somewhere as a bubble, creating the spongy feel.

subxero · May 20th, 2014, 05:13 AM

^ this

cuong-nutz · May 20th, 2014, 08:05 AM

What @Motofool said.

Old Lemon · May 20th, 2014, 06:03 PM

thanks guys, bleed the brakes it shall be, the clutch safety switch seems a bit more complex. i may attempt it but if not i dont have a real problem always starting in neutral

csmith12 · May 20th, 2014, 06:09 PM

Sure, that is an easy fix for now, starting in neutral. But Murphy's law dictates that when you need to go, it will not work for some reason. Take the time to figure it out before it causes you issues later.

Old Lemon · May 20th, 2014, 06:16 PM

true true, i say this now cause im contemplating making it a track only bike. If i decide to keep it for the street as well it will be fixed

May 19th, 2014, 08:59 PM	#1
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	couple of issues so i was able to ride around the neighborhood today after my crash at the track last week. I noticed a couple of things: slightly bent handle bar; no problem, i can get another from woodcraft for 15$ the bike wont start when it is in gear. Basically it is as if the kickstand is down. It starts in neutral just fine, as well as shifts to first just fine. But with the kickstand up (and yes i made sure it was up) the bike would not start or even attempt to while it was in first gear. And my brakes felt pretty spongy. It has not leaked any sort of fluids and i just got new ss brake lines installed about a week before the crash. I will be going out of town for 2 weeks and this ride was the only time i had available to ride it around to look for problems, so this is all i could find. So what do you guys think?

May 19th, 2014, 09:10 PM	#2
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	Broken or loose clutch switch at lever I suppose. Could just bleed the brakes and see. __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

May 20th, 2014, 03:39 AM	#3
Motofool Daily Ninjette rider Name: Hernan Location: Florida Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTY - 2016, MOTM - Dec '12, Jan '14, Jan '15, May '16	Copied from: http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Underst...afety_switches "A bike can be started: in neutral with the side stand down and the clutch out in neutral, with the side stand up and the clutch out in gear, with the side stand down and the clutch in in gear, with the side stand up and the clutch in " When the bike gets upside down, some of the air in the reservoir can sneak into the system and get trapped somewhere as a bubble, creating the spongy feel. __________________________________________________ *Motofool* *.................................Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly* "Mankind is composed of two sorts of men — those who love and create, and those who hate and destroy. Love is the bond between men, the way to teach and the center of the world." - José Martí
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May 20th, 2014, 05:13 AM	#4
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	^ this __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

May 20th, 2014, 08:05 AM	#5
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	What @Motofool said. __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

May 20th, 2014, 06:03 PM	#6
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	thanks guys, bleed the brakes it shall be, the clutch safety switch seems a bit more complex. i may attempt it but if not i dont have a real problem always starting in neutral

May 20th, 2014, 06:09 PM	#7
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Sure, that is an easy fix for now, starting in neutral. But Murphy's law dictates that when you need to go, it will not work for some reason. Take the time to figure it out before it causes you issues later. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

May 20th, 2014, 06:16 PM	#8
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	true true, i say this now cause im contemplating making it a track only bike. If i decide to keep it for the street as well it will be fixed

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