MMmm, new parts.

ForceofWill · February 28th, 2014, 02:56 PM

Anyone know what that PVC pipe is for that came with my springs?

csmith12 · February 28th, 2014, 03:04 PM

So you can cut your own sized preload spacer.

ForceofWill · February 28th, 2014, 03:05 PM

Too small to use for seals. Based on the instructions I'm guessing it's in case I want to cut spacers out of it for pre-load adjustment? They did give me washers tho.

Edit: Beat by Chris lol. Thanks.

csmith12 · February 28th, 2014, 03:06 PM

I went through this same process just a few months ago with nearly the same parts you got. You should love the feel compared to stock.

choneofakind · February 28th, 2014, 03:18 PM

Do you have a pipe cutter? really makes square cuts around the pvc a lot easier.

ForceofWill · February 28th, 2014, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Do you have a pipe cutter? really makes square cuts around the pvc a lot easier.

I do yeah. We'll see if I even need any, went with .90s.

Ducati999 · March 4th, 2014, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceofWill

Anyone know what that PVC pipe is for that came with my springs?

Late MERRY CHRISTMAS to you!!
Looking forward to you writing up the transformation to your suspension. I have the same GSXR shock and I am considering doing the GOLD valve kit to the little Ninja! Please let me/everyone know how the forks feel and especially the shock. I will have the shock on Our (mine and the Wife) ninja by March 15th but I still need to convince her to let me do the forks.

ForceofWill · March 4th, 2014, 08:43 PM

Will do, plan to craft a write up for the shock install. I'm still waiting on the dog bones though

subxero · March 5th, 2014, 09:51 AM

no dog bones yet?

ForceofWill · March 5th, 2014, 10:09 AM

Nothing yet, I emailed him and didn't get a response. The guy here that got his already said they took about 2 weeks and he didn't get any shipping notification either.

InvisiBill · March 5th, 2014, 02:49 PM

Wow, lots of similarities to my parts pics from October '12. Right down to the wood floor and poorly packed emulator...

If you want to venture over to that other Ninja site, http://www.ex-500.com/wiki/index.php...ension_Preload has lots of good background info and math on setting the preload/sag.

ForceofWill · March 5th, 2014, 08:30 PM

Haha awesome man.

Ya I'm good on dealing with pre load and sag. And I can set the compression/rebound as well. Was just wondering if someone of similar weight had a good setting so I had a better place to start with those.

Ducati999 · March 5th, 2014, 08:38 PM

The best starting point I have found is to set the front and rear so they both compress equally when you (having a friend hold the bike vertical but holding no weight) push down (not fast) firmly on the tank just where the tank slopes toward the seat. The bike should move down about 3-4 inches equally front and rear then when you release the weight it should rise at an equal rate front and rear. Make sure you set the sag front and back first and this will make the settings a little soft but balanced then you can make adjustments from there. Good luck and let us know how you make out

Remember when you push down if its too hard then lower compression goes down too easy raise compression and if rises too fast then lower rebound and increase rebound if it raises too slow.
Once you take it for a test ride if the rear feels harsh before you lower the compression try a few less clicks of rear rebound. Keep a record of your starting point by turning the "clickers" all the way in then all the way out and count the clicks then set to the middle (and write how many clicks out the middle is) and begin the above set up and record total clicks out from full in. This way when you make a change you will always have your beginning recorded and can always go back if you don't like the changes.

NOTE the GSXR shock also has a high speed compression setting which you can work on after the base settings are working well for you and you have a balanced setting you are comfortable with. Do small (1-2 clicks) at a time and ride it. Remember that when you change one thing it will effect the other end so recheck sag and front to rear balance often while making adjustments. When you push down you should feel more than just the spring resisting and it should move smoothly and equally both ends. When you release it should rise equally but not really fast till it hits it unloaded sag then stop it should not go past then settle back and both front and rear should raise at the same rate.

Feel free to post any questions

ForceofWill · March 6th, 2014, 08:37 AM

Thanks Ant. That's pretty much how I was planning on going at it. We'll see how much trial and error it takes to get right.

Ducati999 · March 6th, 2014, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceofWill

Thanks Ant. That's pretty much how I was planning on going at it. We'll see how much trial and error it takes to get right.

Good luck and don't be afraid to ask question and I found several good vids on Youtube to help guide you thru!

Keep us posted. I will be doing some suspension work on our ninja so the wife can enjoy it more and I need to get my SV dialed in for when I hit the track

psych0hans · March 6th, 2014, 09:11 AM

Damn nice... Along with the above I also bought a good valve for my rear shock, along with a new spring and a rebound separator valve. Might be a good idea.

subxero · March 6th, 2014, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psych0hans

Damn nice... Along with the above I also bought a good valve for my rear shock, along with a new spring and a rebound separator valve. Might be a good idea.

What kind of coin are we looking at there to make this happen if you don't mind answering?

psych0hans · March 6th, 2014, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subxero

What kind of coin are we looking at there to make this happen if you don't mind answering?

I paid about 150 for the good valve on eBay and the spring I got for free because a spring manufacturer made it for me... But it's about 140 on race tech I think.

subxero · March 6th, 2014, 09:36 AM

^nice, can you get them to make me a spring for free to

j/k... but seriously?

psych0hans · March 6th, 2014, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subxero

^nice, can you get them to make me a spring for free to

j/k... but seriously?

I think in your case it would be cheaper to go in for a gsxr1000 spring(not sure about the year, but I think it 01-02, considering I'm in india and even a free spring will cost a fortune to send you

subxero · March 6th, 2014, 10:01 AM

valid point

ForceofWill · March 6th, 2014, 03:22 PM

More stuff today. Got the dog bones in finally.

And a guy at work sold me this 2 piece craftsman toolbox for $100 FREAKING SCORE!!!! I was running out of room in my other one to the right lol.

ForceofWill · March 6th, 2014, 03:31 PM

ForceofWill · March 7th, 2014, 01:21 PM

And so it begins! Hopefully I'll have a DIY/install thread up by the end of this weekend.

sharky nrk · March 8th, 2014, 05:03 PM

so it looks like the +1.25s were like 156mm or so. Kinda hard to see from pics for sure.

subxero · March 8th, 2014, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharky nrk

so it looks like the +1.25s were like 156mm or so. Kinda hard to see from pics for sure.

in one of the gsxr shock threads in new gen tech i believe he said that the +1" is close to 158mm and the +1.25" is close to 156mm

February 28th, 2014, 02:56 PM	#1
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	MMmm, new parts. Anyone know what that PVC pipe is for that came with my springs?

February 28th, 2014, 03:04 PM	#2
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	So you can cut your own sized preload spacer. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School
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February 28th, 2014, 03:06 PM	#4
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	I went through this same process just a few months ago with nearly the same parts you got. You should love the feel compared to stock. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

March 5th, 2014, 09:51 AM	#9
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	no dog bones yet? __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

March 5th, 2014, 08:38 PM	#13
Ducati999 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ant Location: Wooster Join Date: Dec 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ducati 999 2012 Ninja 250r Ducati748 Yellow finally running 2003 SV650 S (SOLD) Posts: A lot.	The best starting point I have found is to set the front and rear so they both compress equally when you (having a friend hold the bike vertical but holding no weight) push down (not fast) firmly on the tank just where the tank slopes toward the seat. The bike should move down about 3-4 inches equally front and rear then when you release the weight it should rise at an equal rate front and rear. Make sure you set the sag front and back first and this will make the settings a little soft but balanced then you can make adjustments from there. Good luck and let us know how you make out Remember when you push down if its too hard then lower compression goes down too easy raise compression and if rises too fast then lower rebound and increase rebound if it raises too slow. Once you take it for a test ride if the rear feels harsh before you lower the compression try a few less clicks of rear rebound. Keep a record of your starting point by turning the "clickers" all the way in then all the way out and count the clicks then set to the middle (and write how many clicks out the middle is) and begin the above set up and record total clicks out from full in. This way when you make a change you will always have your beginning recorded and can always go back if you don't like the changes. NOTE the GSXR shock also has a high speed compression setting which you can work on after the base settings are working well for you and you have a balanced setting you are comfortable with. Do small (1-2 clicks) at a time and ride it. Remember that when you change one thing it will effect the other end so recheck sag and front to rear balance often while making adjustments. When you push down you should feel more than just the spring resisting and it should move smoothly and equally both ends. When you release it should rise equally but not really fast till it hits it unloaded sag then stop it should not go past then settle back and both front and rear should raise at the same rate. Feel free to post any questions Last futzed with by Ducati999; March 5th, 2014 at 08:55 PM. Reason: Forgot some info

February 28th, 2014, 03:05 PM	#3
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	Too small to use for seals. Based on the instructions I'm guessing it's in case I want to cut spacers out of it for pre-load adjustment? They did give me washers tho. Edit: Beat by Chris lol. Thanks.

February 28th, 2014, 03:18 PM	#5
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Do you have a pipe cutter? really makes square cuts around the pvc a lot easier.

March 4th, 2014, 08:43 PM	#8
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	Will do, plan to craft a write up for the shock install. I'm still waiting on the dog bones though

March 5th, 2014, 10:09 AM	#10
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	Nothing yet, I emailed him and didn't get a response. The guy here that got his already said they took about 2 weeks and he didn't get any shipping notification either.

March 5th, 2014, 02:49 PM	#11
InvisiBill EX500 full of EX250 parts Name: Bill Location: Grand Rapids-ish, MI Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): '18 Ninja 400 • '09 Ninja 500R (selling) • '98 VFR800 (project) • '85 Vulcan VN700 (sold) Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Aug '15	Wow, lots of similarities to my parts pics from October '12. Right down to the wood floor and poorly packed emulator... If you want to venture over to that other Ninja site, http://www.ex-500.com/wiki/index.php...ension_Preload has lots of good background info and math on setting the preload/sag.

March 5th, 2014, 08:30 PM	#12
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	Haha awesome man. Ya I'm good on dealing with pre load and sag. And I can set the compression/rebound as well. Was just wondering if someone of similar weight had a good setting so I had a better place to start with those.

March 6th, 2014, 08:37 AM	#14
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	Thanks Ant. That's pretty much how I was planning on going at it. We'll see how much trial and error it takes to get right.

March 6th, 2014, 09:11 AM	#16
psych0hans ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Hansveer Location: Bombay, India Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r - Track whore, Ninja 300 - SOLD, KTM RC390 - Orange Hulk, Ducati 899 Panigale - Red Devil. Posts: A lot.	Damn nice... Along with the above I also bought a good valve for my rear shock, along with a new spring and a rebound separator valve. Might be a good idea. __________________________________________________ GETTING BACK INTO RIDING? Read this.

March 6th, 2014, 09:36 AM	#19
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	^nice, can you get them to make me a spring for free to j/k... but seriously? __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

March 6th, 2014, 10:01 AM	#21
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	valid point __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

March 6th, 2014, 03:22 PM	#22
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	More stuff today. Got the dog bones in finally. And a guy at work sold me this 2 piece craftsman toolbox for $100 FREAKING SCORE!!!! I was running out of room in my other one to the right lol.

March 6th, 2014, 03:31 PM	#23
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.

March 7th, 2014, 01:21 PM	#24
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	And so it begins! Hopefully I'll have a DIY/install thread up by the end of this weekend.

March 8th, 2014, 05:03 PM	#25
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	so it looks like the +1.25s were like 156mm or so. Kinda hard to see from pics for sure. __________________________________________________ Keep it rubber side down and enjoy the ride Get healthy - Get Fit - Change Your Life Click Here Or PM Me To Find More - Advocare

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