February 27th, 2013, 04:57 PM | #1 | |
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Does small displacement mean big mpg?
Cycle World finds out!
http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/02/27...age-challenge/ Quote:
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February 27th, 2013, 06:06 PM | #3 |
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The response to your question is yes, for equal conditions.
However, the graphs compare relatively similar displacements.
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February 27th, 2013, 06:11 PM | #4 |
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lol wtf did honda do to the cbr to get that kind of gas mileage? Heck I wouldn't mind a cbr250 for an around town and slow commuter bike.
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February 27th, 2013, 06:30 PM | #5 |
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Honda make amazing engines, that's what Honda do, and they are best best in making reliable, efficient, clean and all round amazing engines.
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February 27th, 2013, 06:33 PM | #6 |
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The cbr250 is only one cylinder, thats why
Also why it sucks
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February 27th, 2013, 06:39 PM | #7 |
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If I could get a 2009+ VTR250 honda engine as an option on my ninja I would.
I would have gotten a cbr250 if it didn't look like a cut down bike rather than the ninja looking like a proper sports bike. I can't express how much I like Honda engines, i've mever had any problems with honda, they also look much better in the light of the shockingly awful hyundai i10 engine. |
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February 27th, 2013, 06:44 PM | #8 |
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February 27th, 2013, 06:47 PM | #9 |
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I thought these numbers looked weird. The EPA for the ninja 300 is 68mpg and for the cbr250r its 77mpg
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February 27th, 2013, 06:50 PM | #10 |
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I've measured my MPG at 75+, I think the fuel injection of the european ninja 250 and the CBR250 improves the efficiency a lot.
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February 27th, 2013, 06:57 PM | #11 |
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The biggest difference is your right hand.
My N1k got better mileage than my 250
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February 27th, 2013, 07:28 PM | #12 |
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Well, I'm averaging 73 mpg with my Ninja 250, and average 65 mpg with my KLX686. The KLX is built and has 4x the torque and 2x the horsepower, and less weight. Now, combine the size, comfort and everything the 250 has, BUT put that single thumper in it and THEN we can talk about a bike I would buy YESTERDAY!
The KLX will throttle wheelie, I'm talking straight up, in 2nd gear at 40 mph! Please build this Kawasaki!!!!! |
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February 27th, 2013, 07:59 PM | #13 |
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Thumpers are great and all in a KLX, but not in a sport bike. Sorry, that's the one line I draw as an engine snob for sport bikes.
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February 27th, 2013, 09:25 PM | #14 |
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Let me rephrase that. Thumpers are great and all in a KLX, but not in a sport bike other than a KTM. |
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February 27th, 2013, 09:42 PM | #16 |
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No, lawn mowers get very bad mpg. hahahahahah
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February 27th, 2013, 09:46 PM | #18 |
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touche good sir, touche. |
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February 28th, 2013, 04:48 AM | #19 |
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It's all down to how you ride it, rev the bollox out of it at 95 on the motorway & it'll guzzle juice, keep a respectable 600 at the same 95 mph on the same road & it'll get better millage.
I've taken mine across a couple of countries a few times, & have taken a mates gixxer 6 back & forth across Ireland, the gixxer cost less for the same trip. Btw a respectable 600 is not just a SS, anything like fazer, zzr, f4i, xj6 |
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February 28th, 2013, 08:42 AM | #20 |
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February 28th, 2013, 12:52 PM | #21 |
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February 28th, 2013, 01:13 PM | #22 |
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It all depends how you ride...I'm sure those numbers are when the bike is ridden at a sedate pace. If you're someone like me, redlining every gear and usually at 9-11k rpm's you'll never see those numbers. I wouldn't be surprised if I rode a 600cc in the mid range and got similar miles...
No top end. Where our bikes are waking up and getting going the CBR is running out of steam... Its ok on a dirtbike where top end really isn't a big deal and you need a little more torque for a hill climb or making it through tough mud, but on a street bike it sucks. That's not to say twins can't make a dirt engine, you'll just have to work the gearbox more...
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March 1st, 2013, 01:16 PM | #23 |
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Well, it does depend on how you ride, BUT my KLX has a top speed of 110+, equals a ZX10 in top gear roll-ons from 50-80 mph and is blisteringly quick off a tight corner. This is with gearing 3 teeth taller than stock. Now, put that motor in a small, light bike with better aero than a barn door and we are talking about a very good handling bike that you don't HAVE to rev to have power, which lower revs equals better mpg!
Ride both to the same level of acceleration in town/backroads and the KLX wins the MPG contest. |
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March 1st, 2013, 04:09 PM | #25 | |
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Maybe, but, with it's high torque at low revs and light weight a supersport liter bike is THE fastest in roll on acceleration of all bikes with stated times of 2-3 seconds 60-80 mph. You might ride the 250 near redline all the time but you won't do that on a liter bike, or for that matter ANY bike that actually has some power, unless your on the track. |
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March 1st, 2013, 08:29 PM | #27 |
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My 2012 250R (Zorak): 52.2 mpg.
All of Fuelly's 250Rs: http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/kawasaki/ninja%20250r 300s: http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/kawasaki/ninja%20300 CBR250R: http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/honda/cbr250r |
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March 2nd, 2013, 05:15 AM | #28 |
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No, I stated a top gear rollon scenario for both bikes, and what it demonstrates is low-mid range acceleration without the need for downshifting. So for a rider who doesn't like/want to shift much a torque'r would be what they would want vs someone who is a 'hair on fire' type.
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