Launching

POZZD · October 24th, 2012, 05:33 PM

So my first trackday is fast approaching(10/28/12). I've been watching a lot of videos of 250's on the track, and noticed they were revving before taking off.

Then I saw the thread choneofakind made, and he was at 6k then another at 9k. I never thought of doing that at all.

Are there any other things I should look up before heading out? Should I do a few launches before?

choneofakind · October 24th, 2012, 05:35 PM

...you're going to a track day and you're worried about that first 15 seconds that you leave the pits?

Dude, just ride off like you normally would, and go enjoy the curves!

CC Cowboy · October 24th, 2012, 06:25 PM

Don't burn up your clutch on a trackday. You want to take it easy first lap to warm up your tires also. You don't want to crash so ride at your own pace. Be predictable in corners so others can pass(if they allow that). Worry about what is in front of you , not what is behind you.

cuong-nutz · October 24th, 2012, 08:41 PM

Drew.

A TRACK DAY is NOT A RACE.

Just imagine you're on a one way street going for a nice ride. You have all day get to know your bike as well as progress on skills to becoming a better rider.

Make sure your tires are good. Air pressure is good. Chain lubed and tensioned properly, throttle snaps back, brakes work. clutch works. Mirrors taped off or removed. Headlights taped up and fuse pulled. Breathe. and Relax. Don't worry about going fast. I have seen numerous noobs get out on their first track day and wreck their bike early in the day. They think it's a race and are trying to prove themselves they can be fast and pass other bikes. The winner is the one who doesn't wreck his **** at the end of the day.

I might be out there riding or just doing track side support.

Format will be like this:
9 AM track is hot for Advance
Then intermediate
Then Novice.

First session for novice is will be a round robin where you will ride around the track with the instructors to get to know the track as well as "the line". There will be class after each session to go over riding basics and fundamentals.
Second session, you will be split up into groups, usually 6-7 per instructor or two which I would expect since Novice is already sold out.
Third session, is one on one with the instructor and for the rest of the day if you need it or have questions on lines, braking, etc. You can request the instructor to follow you while you ride so he can give you pointers on what to work on. Slow is Smooth and Smooth is fast.

csmith12 · October 24th, 2012, 08:52 PM

If you want to asspack the guy in front of you, then launch like that. Otherwise, enter the track in a smooth, controlled manner. At the end of hot pit, be harder on the throttle than normal but you don't have to be pinned. Oh!!! your on a 250, be pinned at the end of hot pit if you gots wide open track.

Do not enter the track until given the flag/hand signal
Do not pass on hot pit
Do not merge into traffic until at pace
Stay to the (left/right until at pace, depending on track direction)
Do not get "black flagged" in hot pit lol
Do not crash on hot pit, because you can get run over

Relax and have fun!

CC Cowboy · October 25th, 2012, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

If you want to asspack the guy in front of you, then launch like that. Otherwise, enter the track in a smooth, controlled manner.

Relax and have fun!

Today there are many ladies riding trackdays (as well as racing). If you launch and hit the back of one of the female riders do they go around complaining that they got "asspacked"?

choneofakind · October 25th, 2012, 07:49 AM

some of them might like it.

lgk · October 25th, 2012, 08:18 AM

POZZD · October 25th, 2012, 08:45 AM

ok so the videos I was watching were races. I assumed a track day started the same way. My bag guise. my bad.

alex.s · October 25th, 2012, 10:36 AM

this thread is priceless

RedOctober · October 26th, 2012, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POZZD

ok so the videos I was watching were races. I assumed a track day started the same way. My bag guise. my bad.

I'll be at MSRH on 28th in lvl2, black/red Daytona 675, "Red October". Stop by and say hello.

choneofakind · October 26th, 2012, 08:05 PM

Here's a typical start for a novice at Mid-Ohio. No launching

The whole movie is long, so just watch the parts that interest you.

Link to original page on YouTube.

cuong-nutz · October 26th, 2012, 08:11 PM

What Sunday will look like:

Link to original page on YouTube.

RedOctober · October 26th, 2012, 09:52 PM

At least X marks the spot

CC Cowboy · October 27th, 2012, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Here's a typical start for a novice at Mid-Ohio. No launching

The whole movie is long, so just watch the parts that interest you.

Link to original page on YouTube.

I watched the first two minutes of it. I think the guy with the cam is on an e-bike. The guy in front of him has really bad form.

CC Cowboy · October 27th, 2012, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuong-nutz

What Sunday will look like:

Link to original page on YouTube.

I watched the first three minutes of it. Ever notice that the 250 sounds the best out of all the bikes. Reminds me of when we were kids and put baseball cards in our spokes. I also love how the 250 is the fastest in the corners. No one can touch a 250 in cornering.

POZZD · October 29th, 2012, 06:51 PM

I will post my video up when I get the chance. I left the SD card at work, so sometime tomorrow I'll have it up.

RedOctober · October 29th, 2012, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POZZD

I will post my video up when I get the chance. I left the SD card at work, so sometime tomorrow I'll have it up.

How did you do? Tried to find you but only saw 1 ninja there.
Here's my quick vid. I'm definitely not the fastest guys in lvl2.

Link to original page on YouTube.

csmith12 · October 29th, 2012, 07:04 PM

Nice vid Andrei. Looks smooth man!

POZZD · October 29th, 2012, 07:28 PM

I felt realy good after the first 20min session. Strated going a little faster each time. Might as well ask now, how do i post a video here? HOW DO?

csmith12 · October 29th, 2012, 08:26 PM

Can't wait to see it!

Upload the video to youtube first, then edit a post like this but remove spaces and replace with your VideoID or you can just press the button in the advanced editor.

[ youtube ] YCiN0Jn5YGg [/ youtube ]

For reference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCiN0Jn5YGg

POZZD · October 30th, 2012, 05:36 PM

I uploaded the video this morning, youtube immediately removed it for being too long. I increased my limit, and shortened the video. Uploading now, but my internet is SLOW says it has 250 minutes left at 23%.

csmith12 · October 30th, 2012, 05:37 PM

lol, sounds like my webs out here in the backwoods of KY.

POZZD · October 31st, 2012, 07:24 AM

[ youtube ]FIEFhdDdZOA[/ youtube ]

Here it is.

POZZD · October 31st, 2012, 07:24 AM

[youtube]FIEFhdDdZOA[youtube]

POZZD · October 31st, 2012, 07:25 AM

Link to original page on YouTube.

POZZD · October 31st, 2012, 07:26 AM

Ha got it.

rojoracing53 · October 31st, 2012, 08:04 AM

This video shows the exact RPM necessary to get the perfect holeshot every time but if done wrong has a 95% chance of causing you to "Hong it"

Disclaimer: don't try this a home, track, or any time your on your bike, you been warned.

Link to original page on YouTube.

RedOctober · October 31st, 2012, 03:45 PM

Not bad for a first track day.
Lines need a tad more work and you need to downshift 1 gear (at least). Flog that little ninja

It should be screaming, not purring

But that'll come.

Coming to Cresson this weekend?

POZZD · October 31st, 2012, 05:10 PM

No,can't make it there. Going wedding dress shopping with my fiance. But December 1st and 2nd i'll be back out at MSRH. If I ever do go to cresson, i'll have to get a hotel. It's like 6 hours from where i live maybe more.

POZZD · October 31st, 2012, 05:13 PM

And yea I kept it in 6th the whole time and only shifted into 5th in a couple corners.

RedOctober · October 31st, 2012, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POZZD

And yea I kept it in 6th the whole time and only shifted into 5th in a couple corners.

I can hear it in the video

Well, the best western at Cresson is right across the road from the track, and all the junkies stay there. Join WFO forums and next time you want to do a TWS/MSRC/ECR track you can try to find a ride. We all share.

LessIsMore · November 1st, 2012, 12:40 PM

Nice job, man. It's all about having fun. Take things at your own pace and gradually increase performance as you get more comfortable. Focus on your lines and body position and, if offered, take advantage of on-track time with the control riders and instructors (not sure what the schools and orgs out that way offer).

On a side note, can't wait to get down to Austin so I can get on some of the tracks in that area of the country. Our season is already done up here in CT. January can't come fast enough.

csmith12 · November 1st, 2012, 12:43 PM

Do werk yo!

alex.s · November 1st, 2012, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rojoracing53

This video shows the exact RPM necessary to get the perfect holeshot every time but if done wrong has a 95% chance of causing you to "Hong it"

Disclaimer: don't try this a home, track, or any time your on your bike, you been warned.

Link to original page on YouTube.

"the exact rpm"... the highest it will go?

October 24th, 2012, 05:33 PM	#1
POZZD ninjette.org member Name: Drew Location: Houston Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r Posts: 61	Launching So my first trackday is fast approaching(10/28/12). I've been watching a lot of videos of 250's on the track, and noticed they were revving before taking off. Then I saw the thread choneofakind made, and he was at 6k then another at 9k. I never thought of doing that at all. Are there any other things I should look up before heading out? Should I do a few launches before?

October 24th, 2012, 06:25 PM	#3
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Don't burn up your clutch on a trackday. You want to take it easy first lap to warm up your tires also. You don't want to crash so ride at your own pace. Be predictable in corners so others can pass(if they allow that). Worry about what is in front of you , not what is behind you. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

October 24th, 2012, 08:41 PM	#4
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	Drew. A TRACK DAY is NOT A RACE. Just imagine you're on a one way street going for a nice ride. You have all day get to know your bike as well as progress on skills to becoming a better rider. Make sure your tires are good. Air pressure is good. Chain lubed and tensioned properly, throttle snaps back, brakes work. clutch works. Mirrors taped off or removed. Headlights taped up and fuse pulled. Breathe. and Relax. Don't worry about going fast. I have seen numerous noobs get out on their first track day and wreck their bike early in the day. They think it's a race and are trying to prove themselves they can be fast and pass other bikes. The winner is the one who doesn't wreck his ** at the end of the day. I might be out there riding or just doing track side support. Format will be like this: 9 AM track is hot for Advance Then intermediate Then Novice. First session for novice is will be a round robin where you will ride around the track with the instructors to get to know the track as well as "the line". There will be class after each session to go over riding basics and fundamentals. Second session, you will be split up into groups, usually 6-7 per instructor or two which I would expect since Novice is already sold out. Third session, is one on one with the instructor and for the rest of the day if you need it or have questions on lines, braking, etc. You can request the instructor to follow you while you ride so he can give you pointers on what to work on. Slow is Smooth and Smooth is fast. __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders**:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

October 24th, 2012, 08:52 PM	#5
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	If you want to asspack the guy in front of you, then launch like that. Otherwise, enter the track in a smooth, controlled manner. At the end of hot pit, be harder on the throttle than normal but you don't have to be pinned. Oh!!! your on a 250, be pinned at the end of hot pit if you gots wide open track. Do not enter the track until given the flag/hand signal Do not pass on hot pit Do not merge into traffic until at pace Stay to the (left/right until at pace, depending on track direction) Do not get "black flagged" in hot pit lol Do not crash on hot pit, because you can get run over Relax and have fun! __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

October 25th, 2012, 08:18 AM	#8
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	__________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700

October 24th, 2012, 05:35 PM	#2
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	...you're going to a track day and you're worried about that first 15 seconds that you leave the pits? Dude, just ride off like you normally would, and go enjoy the curves!

October 25th, 2012, 07:49 AM	#7
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	some of them might like it.

October 25th, 2012, 08:45 AM	#9
POZZD ninjette.org member Name: Drew Location: Houston Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r Posts: 61	ok so the videos I was watching were races. I assumed a track day started the same way. My bag guise. my bad.

October 25th, 2012, 10:36 AM	#10
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	this thread is priceless __________________________________________________

October 26th, 2012, 08:05 PM	#12
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Here's a typical start for a novice at Mid-Ohio. No launching The whole movie is long, so just watch the parts that interest you. Link to original page on YouTube.

October 26th, 2012, 08:11 PM	#13
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	What Sunday will look like: Link to original page on YouTube. __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

October 26th, 2012, 09:52 PM	#14
RedOctober ninjette.org member Name: Andrei Location: Austin, TX Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 2008 Daytona 675 Posts: 212	At least X marks the spot

October 29th, 2012, 06:51 PM	#17
POZZD ninjette.org member Name: Drew Location: Houston Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r Posts: 61	I will post my video up when I get the chance. I left the SD card at work, so sometime tomorrow I'll have it up.

October 29th, 2012, 07:04 PM	#19
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Nice vid Andrei. Looks smooth man! __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

October 29th, 2012, 07:28 PM	#20
POZZD ninjette.org member Name: Drew Location: Houston Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r Posts: 61	I felt realy good after the first 20min session. Strated going a little faster each time. Might as well ask now, how do i post a video here? HOW DO?

October 29th, 2012, 08:26 PM	#21
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Can't wait to see it! Upload the video to youtube first, then edit a post like this but remove spaces and replace with your VideoID or you can just press the button in the advanced editor. [ youtube ] YCiN0Jn5YGg [/ youtube ] For reference http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCiN0Jn5YGg __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

October 30th, 2012, 05:36 PM	#22
POZZD ninjette.org member Name: Drew Location: Houston Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r Posts: 61	I uploaded the video this morning, youtube immediately removed it for being too long. I increased my limit, and shortened the video. Uploading now, but my internet is SLOW says it has 250 minutes left at 23%.

October 30th, 2012, 05:37 PM	#23
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	lol, sounds like my webs out here in the backwoods of KY. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

October 31st, 2012, 07:24 AM	#24
POZZD ninjette.org member Name: Drew Location: Houston Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r Posts: 61	[ youtube ]FIEFhdDdZOA[/ youtube ] Here it is.

October 31st, 2012, 07:25 AM	#26
POZZD ninjette.org member Name: Drew Location: Houston Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r Posts: 61	Link to original page on YouTube.

October 31st, 2012, 07:26 AM	#27
POZZD ninjette.org member Name: Drew Location: Houston Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r Posts: 61	Ha got it.

October 31st, 2012, 08:04 AM	#28
rojoracing53 Fast-Guy wannabe Name: Jason Location: Brentwood, Ca Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja250, 2011 RM-Z250, 2004 NSR50, Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '13	This video shows the exact RPM necessary to get the perfect holeshot every time but if done wrong has a 95% chance of causing you to "Hong it" Disclaimer: don't try this a home, track, or any time your on your bike, you been warned. Link to original page on YouTube.

October 31st, 2012, 03:45 PM	#29
RedOctober ninjette.org member Name: Andrei Location: Austin, TX Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 2008 Daytona 675 Posts: 212	Not bad for a first track day. Lines need a tad more work and you need to downshift 1 gear (at least). Flog that little ninja It should be screaming, not purring But that'll come. Coming to Cresson this weekend?

October 31st, 2012, 05:10 PM	#30
POZZD ninjette.org member Name: Drew Location: Houston Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r Posts: 61	No,can't make it there. Going wedding dress shopping with my fiance. But December 1st and 2nd i'll be back out at MSRH. If I ever do go to cresson, i'll have to get a hotel. It's like 6 hours from where i live maybe more.

October 31st, 2012, 05:13 PM	#31
POZZD ninjette.org member Name: Drew Location: Houston Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r Posts: 61	And yea I kept it in 6th the whole time and only shifted into 5th in a couple corners.

November 1st, 2012, 12:40 PM	#33
LessIsMore Road and Track Junkie Name: Joe Location: Northeast Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2007 GSXR 600, 2006 Ninja 250 Posts: 6	Nice job, man. It's all about having fun. Take things at your own pace and gradually increase performance as you get more comfortable. Focus on your lines and body position and, if offered, take advantage of on-track time with the control riders and instructors (not sure what the schools and orgs out that way offer). On a side note, can't wait to get down to Austin so I can get on some of the tracks in that area of the country. Our season is already done up here in CT. January can't come fast enough.

November 1st, 2012, 12:43 PM	#34
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Do werk yo! __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

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