Do you weave?

JeffM · March 9th, 2010, 08:10 AM

When approching intercections with opposing traffic, left turners, etc. do you weave?

I generally throw in a couple of left/right weaves when near the intersection. The cagers seem to notice that I'm there and there is some research that supports this idea: http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety...me2/rsrr85.pdf

Discuss.

tapdiggy · March 9th, 2010, 08:35 AM

I tend not to weave near intersections or in any low speed situation. There is often an assortment of grease/oil/gravel at those spots that can put you down if your bike isn't upright as you slow. Also, I have meandered my way up to a light before only to get a nasty look from cagers; maybe they thought I was " stuntin' "

lockie · March 9th, 2010, 10:15 AM

I'll weave sometimes if it makes me a bit more visible but I do worry that in some circumstances it may send a confusing messsage to other drivers as to my intentions.

ZerO · March 9th, 2010, 10:26 AM

you know i was on the other end of this (in my car, stopped at a stop sign, waiting to turn) and witnessed a fellow biker do this. I have to admit, i was more aware of the biker with him doing so.

I will consider doing this but as tapdiggy mentioned, it can become rather dangerous in certain intersections.

Mista Bob · March 9th, 2010, 12:57 PM

I do this whenever I have even just the slightest doubt about the other person seeing me.
Which is.... pretty much all the time. So if I can't enter an intersection with a vehicle next to me I almost always weave a little bit in my lane.

I even do it in regular moving traffic, helps people notice your presence.
Saw a biker do it once while I was in my car driving, I noticed him before hand but the moment he did that my eyes went right to my rear view mirror where I could see him.
It definitely grabs peoples attention no matter where you are.

KJohnson21 · March 9th, 2010, 01:31 PM

The link in the first posting got truncated. Here's the full URL: http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety...me2/rsrr85.pdf

I haven't read through the 48 page report yet. It looks interesting. Right now I'll have to say that I don't "weave". (I'll have to see what they define as "weaving" in the report.) I do have some things that I do to make sure I'm visible, not in blind spots, etcetera.

250rinblack · March 9th, 2010, 01:38 PM

I do weave in traffic if I'm not convinced the driver in front of me is aware of my presence. The headlight in the mirror gets their attention pretty quickly.
I'd be reluctant to weave approaching an intersection for reasons stated above i.e. surface condition, and I'm usually busy scanning the intersection for potential trouble.

backinthesaddleagain · March 9th, 2010, 01:38 PM

Never thougth about it. I typically try to see they eyes of anyone near me. Kind of like a hockey goalie with multiple pucks/shooters. Not perfect in all intersections though due to number of cars.

capt_bugaloo · March 9th, 2010, 03:21 PM

Absolutely. If I am approaching an intersection and someone is waiting to make a left turn, I will often do a "left-right" wiggle so that the driver sees some lateral movement. I find it to be an extremely effective technique.

CC Cowboy · March 9th, 2010, 04:44 PM

I weave, but only coming from the pub.

rockNroll · March 9th, 2010, 04:53 PM

wheelies get everyone's attention

cnichols79us · March 9th, 2010, 05:03 PM

Thinking about it, I know I will change my lane position to be as visible as possible coming to an intersection, but I have never (purposefully) weaved back and forth. Typically I am so focused on trying to see who might run me over I don't think about much else....

JeffM · March 9th, 2010, 11:02 PM

Quote:

wheelies get everyone's attention

Vertical weave

ninja250 · March 9th, 2010, 11:14 PM

Hella weavin'

capt_bugaloo · March 10th, 2010, 07:06 AM

Read page 15, the paragraph just before 3.1.2, in the PDF sited above.
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KJohnson21 · March 10th, 2010, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt_bugaloo

Read page 15, the paragraph just before 3.1.2, in the PDF sited above.
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Thanks for finding the specific reference.

Something to keep in mind is the UK left-hand traffic. All of the left and right references should be flipped when thinking about how it applies to us (US).

I'm curious if their suggestion is the same for multiple lane roads, where there's more than one lane in each direction. Could a "weave" be mistaken for an "attempted lane change" by other drivers?

capt_bugaloo · March 10th, 2010, 08:00 PM

What would be bad about that? The whole point of making a slight weave (notice slight) is to get noticed. In your example, the rider gets noticed, and that's the key thing.
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addy126 · March 10th, 2010, 08:45 PM

Don't weave due to the possibility of junk on the road. I do flip on my modulator and set up for the best lane position. Seems to work most often but there is always an idiot that ignores it anyway and for that u have to be prepared to do the "avoidance weave"....

miks · March 12th, 2010, 12:52 AM

I weave alot, sometimes to warm up the tires, sometimes to make myself more visible, and sometimes just for fun.

devinjc · March 12th, 2010, 04:34 PM

Yeah, I kinda weave constantly on good roads where I can't just ignore the speed limit. I'm easily bored though.

March 9th, 2010, 08:10 AM	#1
JeffM Mr. 988 Name: Jeff Location: Sandy, Utah Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): One Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	Do you weave? When approching intercections with opposing traffic, left turners, etc. do you weave? I generally throw in a couple of left/right weaves when near the intersection. The cagers seem to notice that I'm there and there is some research that supports this idea: http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety...me2/rsrr85.pdf Discuss. Last futzed with by JeffM; March 9th, 2010 at 11:01 PM. Reason: Fixed link

March 9th, 2010, 08:35 AM	#2
tapdiggy Humble Observer Name: Truong Location: Augusta, Maine Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Yamaha XT250 Posts: 612	I tend not to weave near intersections or in any low speed situation. There is often an assortment of grease/oil/gravel at those spots that can put you down if your bike isn't upright as you slow. Also, I have meandered my way up to a light before only to get a nasty look from cagers; maybe they thought I was " stuntin' " __________________________________________________ Everything I post is "IN MY HONEST OPINION". Why is "Parking Lot Enduro" not a thing?

March 9th, 2010, 10:26 AM	#4
ZerO ninjette.org member Name: tommy Location: City of Brotherly Love Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Posts: 54	you know i was on the other end of this (in my car, stopped at a stop sign, waiting to turn) and witnessed a fellow biker do this. I have to admit, i was more aware of the biker with him doing so. I will consider doing this but as tapdiggy mentioned, it can become rather dangerous in certain intersections. __________________________________________________ oh dAng!

March 9th, 2010, 01:31 PM	#6
KJohnson21 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ken Location: Indio, CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Kawasaki EX250 "Yoshi", '99 Kawasaki Concours "Grace", '06 Concours "Belle", '06 Yamaha YZF600R "Slick" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 3	The link in the first posting got truncated. Here's the full URL: http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety...me2/rsrr85.pdf I haven't read through the 48 page report yet. It looks interesting. Right now I'll have to say that I don't "weave". (I'll have to see what they define as "weaving" in the report.) I do have some things that I do to make sure I'm visible, not in blind spots, etcetera. __________________________________________________ < ATGATT > Sweat you can wipe off, Road rash you can't. HEY!! Unregistered!! Does your bike have a name?

March 9th, 2010, 01:38 PM	#7
250rinblack ninjette.org member Name: Mark Location: Brisbane QLD Australia Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): White 2011 Aprilia RSV4R Posts: 125	I do weave in traffic if I'm not convinced the driver in front of me is aware of my presence. The headlight in the mirror gets their attention pretty quickly. I'd be reluctant to weave approaching an intersection for reasons stated above i.e. surface condition, and I'm usually busy scanning the intersection for potential trouble. __________________________________________________ Whatever you do just don't drop it.

March 9th, 2010, 10:15 AM	#3
lockie ninjette.org sage Name: don Location: Port Elgin NB Canada Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 blue ninja 250R Posts: 742	I'll weave sometimes if it makes me a bit more visible but I do worry that in some circumstances it may send a confusing messsage to other drivers as to my intentions.

March 9th, 2010, 12:57 PM	#5
Mista Bob Über n00b Name: Bob Location: Alberta, Canada Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Triumph TT600, Honda NS50F, Kawasaki ZZR-250 (sold) Posts: 225	I do this whenever I have even just the slightest doubt about the other person seeing me. Which is.... pretty much all the time. So if I can't enter an intersection with a vehicle next to me I almost always weave a little bit in my lane. I even do it in regular moving traffic, helps people notice your presence. Saw a biker do it once while I was in my car driving, I noticed him before hand but the moment he did that my eyes went right to my rear view mirror where I could see him. It definitely grabs peoples attention no matter where you are.

March 9th, 2010, 01:38 PM	#8
backinthesaddleagain ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Greg Location: Rhode Island Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ZX6R 636 Posts: A lot.	Never thougth about it. I typically try to see they eyes of anyone near me. Kind of like a hockey goalie with multiple pucks/shooters. Not perfect in all intersections though due to number of cars.

March 9th, 2010, 03:21 PM	#9
capt_bugaloo motorcycle rider Name: Bruce Location: Victoria, BC Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver) Posts: A lot.	Absolutely. If I am approaching an intersection and someone is waiting to make a left turn, I will often do a "left-right" wiggle so that the driver sees some lateral movement. I find it to be an extremely effective technique. __________________________________________________ '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver)

March 9th, 2010, 04:44 PM	#10
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	I weave, but only coming from the pub. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

March 9th, 2010, 04:53 PM	#11
rockNroll . Name: rock Location: greenville, south carolina Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): black Posts: A lot.	wheelies get everyone's attention __________________________________________________ Always get a second opinion because most of these people are makin' this stuff up

March 9th, 2010, 05:03 PM	#12
cnichols79us Fastly Slow!!! Name: Jeff Location: Kent, WA Join Date: Feb 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Kawasaki Ninja EX250, 1980 Honda XL125 Posts: 467	Thinking about it, I know I will change my lane position to be as visible as possible coming to an intersection, but I have never (purposefully) weaved back and forth. Typically I am so focused on trying to see who might run me over I don't think about much else....

March 10th, 2010, 07:06 AM	#15
capt_bugaloo motorcycle rider Name: Bruce Location: Victoria, BC Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver) Posts: A lot.	Read page 15, the paragraph just before 3.1.2, in the PDF sited above. Posted via Mobile Device

March 10th, 2010, 08:00 PM	#17
capt_bugaloo motorcycle rider Name: Bruce Location: Victoria, BC Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver) Posts: A lot.	What would be bad about that? The whole point of making a slight weave (notice slight) is to get noticed. In your example, the rider gets noticed, and that's the key thing. Posted via Mobile Device

March 10th, 2010, 08:45 PM	#18
addy126 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: addy126 Location: Tx Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki N-250 + '09 Vulcan 900 Classic Lt Posts: A lot.	Don't weave due to the possibility of junk on the road. I do flip on my modulator and set up for the best lane position. Seems to work most often but there is always an idiot that ignores it anyway and for that u have to be prepared to do the "avoidance weave"....

March 12th, 2010, 12:52 AM	#19
miks I'm lovin' it. Name: Mike Location: Melb, Australia Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Black 250R Posts: A lot.	I weave alot, sometimes to warm up the tires, sometimes to make myself more visible, and sometimes just for fun. __________________________________________________ Son: When I grow up I want to ride a motorbike. Father: You can't do both son.

March 12th, 2010, 04:34 PM	#20
devinjc ninjette.org member Name: James Location: Sacto Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 205 Black Posts: 44	Yeah, I kinda weave constantly on good roads where I can't just ignore the speed limit. I'm easily bored though.

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