news: mexico

[alex.s]

if you live in the USA, chances are you have not even heard about what is currently going on in mexico. i suggest you go to another country's media like BBC and take a look at what is happening. then ask yourself why american media is not covering this.

[xorbe]

Link? Are we talking about the dead (murdered) students and impending protests? It's on Google world news and Yahoo world news.

[csmith12]

[NevadaWolf]

Because American media likes fueling shallow gossip and inner division vs a wider understanding of the world.

Hadn't heard a word about the missing students there and barely a whisper of the students in Nigeria.

[xorbe]

Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

Because American media likes fueling shallow gossip and inner division vs a wider understanding of the world.

Hadn't heard a word about the missing students there and barely a whisper of the students in Nigeria.

That's racist.

[NevadaWolf]

Originally Posted by xorbe

That's racist.

If American media is now a race, then yep. I think it's more being mediaist.

(damn, thought I just coined a word, but nope: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mediaist)

[Snake]

OK so whats going on @alex.s ? Is there going to be a mass invasion across the border due to our president giving amnesty and a free ride on the tax payers backs?

[alex.s]

no, basically mexican gov is crazy corrupt and the plebs have had enough. the feds are sending militants into the protest to pretend to be protesters while they attack others and cause violence. then they are using this as justification to mass-murder them plebs. then they cover it up.

[Snake]

Sounds like there needs to be another revolution in Mexico.

[snot]

Omg!!! Something needs done about Mexico. The people deserve better, i knew it was bad but wow.

[cbinker]

so all the mexicans are going to cross the rio after obama gives amnesty, awesome. why do i even try any more.

[Snake]

Originally Posted by cbinker

so all the mexicans are going to cross the rio after obama gives amnesty, awesome. why do i even try any more.

The gates have been left wide open and there's a welcome sign on the other side.

[Worldtraveller]

Originally Posted by alex.s

no, basically mexican gov is crazy corrupt and the plebs have had enough. the feds are sending militants into the protest to pretend to be protesters while they attack others and cause violence. then they are using this as justification to mass-murder them plebs. then they cover it up.

Sounds like Ferguson, MO.....

[salcuta88]

Instead of sending troops overseas, why not guard our borders?

[Worldtraveller]

Originally Posted by salcuta88

Instead of sending troops overseas, why not guard our borders?

Our borders aren't really in that much danger....

[salcuta88]

Originally Posted by Worldtraveller

Our borders aren't really in that much danger....

All those drugs coming in, coke, pot... I just think the U.S. Government can do a better job at protecting its citizens from the cartel.

[csmith12]

[ally99]

Originally Posted by salcuta88

All those drugs coming in, coke, pot... I just think the U.S. Government can do a better job at protecting its citizens from the cartel.

Drugs are bad man, 'specially that pot. Gotta protect ourselves from that ****.

Originally Posted by csmith12

LMFAO! I love palindromes! Race car is a fun one.

[dcj13]

Originally Posted by salcuta88

Instead of sending troops overseas, why not guard our borders?

Where is the money in that?

[salcuta88]

Originally Posted by dcj13

Where is the money in that?

Hopefully in the economy. Less drugs in, less money out.

Is it about the money or about our nation? Thousands of troops died overseas...and for whom? For ungrateful people who assassinate our ambassadors and burn our flag?

Better yet, go here and take a good look. http://projects.militarytimes.com/valor/

[JohnnyBravo]

Originally Posted by alex.s

no, basically mexican gov is crazy corrupt and the plebs have had enough. the feds are sending militants into the protest to pretend to be protesters while they attack others and cause violence. then they are using this as justification to mass-murder them plebs. then they cover it up.

Like our government isn't corrupt

[JohnnyBravo]

Originally Posted by dcj13

Where is the money in that?

We fight wars for profit amongst other reasons... There is not enough money in peace to make it profitable for the greedy pigs. It's jut sad the government gets robbed in the process instead of making the profit the corruption makes

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

Like our government isn't corrupt

when was the last time you got pulled over and you had to bribe the police before they would let you go on your way? because this has happened almost every time i have been in mexico.

the police don't write tickets. they take your money.

[antiant]

The US govt takes your money too, they just do it in an indirect fashion. Many countries are corrupt (the US isn't perfect - no country is), some more than others. Same shiit, different toilet. That's the way the world works presently, unfortunately. There are numerous atrocities going on around the world, Mexico is no different.

[salcuta88]

Originally Posted by antiant

The US govt takes your money too, they just do it in an indirect fashion. Many countries are corrupt (the US isn't perfect - no country is), some more than others. Same shiit, different toilet. That's the way the world works presently, unfortunately. There are numerous atrocities going on around the world, Mexico is no different.

Corrupt or not, no reason for our guys to die in other countries for people who don't want us there.

[ninjamunky85]

Originally Posted by salcuta88

Corrupt or not, no reason for our guys to die in other countries for people who don't want us there.

Tell this to the government who sends our troops across the world to fight these pointless wars...


"America, World Police"!

[antiant]

Originally Posted by salcuta88

Corrupt or not, no reason for our guys to die in other countries for people who don't want us there.

Last time I checked, we don't have a draft. People have a choice to join the military. If you choose to join the military, without weighing the consequences of those choices, that's on YOU. Rich people wage wars in their ivory towers and let the common person fight their wars. The result? The common person dies, the rich person profits. The US government doesn't go to war for peace, or democracy, they go to war to protect their "interests/investments, etc." Their "interests" are not the local people, otherwise there would be a lot of people who love the US government (and its people). The US government is a modern day imperialist. It's rather ironic too, considering the history of the USA, seeing how they left Europe under similar notions.

[Roark]

Originally Posted by antiant

Last time I checked, we don't have a draft. People have a choice to join the military. If you choose to join the military, without weighing the consequences of those choices, that's on YOU. Rich people wage wars in their ivory towers and let the common person fight their wars. The result? The common person dies, the rich person profits. The US government doesn't go to war for peace, or democracy, they go to war to protect their "interests/investments, etc." Their "interests" are not the local people, otherwise there would be a lot of people who love the US government (and its people). The US government is a modern day imperialist. It's rather ironic too, considering the history of the USA, seeing how they left Europe under similar notions.

Every male 18+ signs up for the selective service.....If it came down to it, 18-34 would likely be drafted. Unless you want 5 years in prison and 250k in fines, that is.

[Roark]

Not to distract from how badly the Mexican country is being controlled.. but I think the greater argument for us as Americans is that of border control- yay or nay?

Those that say yay better be close to 100% Native American. Those that say nay better be any of EVERY other race and ethnicity that has flooded this country over the last 400 years. Those that disagree can go back to the country from which their ancestors came.

[ninjamunky85]

There's a difference. My ancestors came here legally. Got no problem with you coming here if you do it legally, but if you are here illegally then you can get out!

[ally99]

Originally Posted by salcuta88

Corrupt or not, no reason for our guys to die in other countries for people who don't want us there.

I think we'd all agree we wouldn't wish death upon those who fight for our country, but most wars are less about freedom and more about control, power, and money. That's the ****** part. People are dying to protect the interests of the elite.

Originally Posted by ninjamunky85

Tell this to the government who sends our troops across the world to fight these pointless wars...


"America, World Police"!

Pointless. Yes.

[Somchai]

Originally Posted by salcuta88

Corrupt or not, no reason for our guys to die in other countries for people who don't want us there.

My dear friend, I would recommend you to read the following link, maybe this will give you some kind of better understanding why your guys die in other countries and who is the reason for this
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central...01-211114.html

[snot]

The US should just buy Mexico, problems solved. Then, they would all be citizens so no worries about the border and our gov't has all the drugs they could ever want.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by snot

The US should just buy Mexico, problems solved. Then, they would all be citizens so no worries about the border and our gov't has all the drugs they could ever want.

We already stole most of it. Why not?

[antiant]

Originally Posted by Roark

Every male 18+ signs up for the selective service.....If it came down to it, 18-34 would likely be drafted. Unless you want 5 years in prison and 250k in fines, that is.

I'm talking about the active choice to join the military. Don't tell me to "support our troops," or that "our guys are dying over there," when those people made the choice to be over there, by joining the military in the first place.

You also brought up another aspect, that I was trying to get across. The draft and the fact that people will get fined (a very rich fine) and thrown in prison because they don't want to be apart of some rich man's war(s). That's very telling. What does that say about the USA and what it values? Surely, they don't value you as a citizen. They also don't value you as a solider either, only metaphorically and in an abstract sense of value.

As a person of the armed forces (army, marines, navy, etc) you get told that you'll get certain benefits. When your family goes to the VA department or you go to the VA department and try to collect on those benefits, you then realize you can't collect on said benefits, due to budget cuts, or some other ineligible reason (that wasn't told to you in the beginning). Take a look at the Veterans Health Administration Scandal and how they constantly deny benefits for people who have fought in war, or been apart of the military system. It's a joke. Make empty promises, get you to join, then when you try to collect on that promise, you don't get anything. This scandal didn't just happen in 2014 either, it was just made aware of. How many other scandals are going on, that "we the people" are unaware of? I bet there are many.

Here's a thought, if the USA wants war, send those rich people to fight for them, to protect their own investments. The "threats" the USA has in the world, the USA made them. They create their own problems and expect its common citizenry to back them, by reporting false information to news and media outlets.

[Somchai]

Thank you @antiant reminding me that I'd read the following letter from Tomas Young, R.I.P.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/11/...d-dick-cheney/

[CC Cowboy]

There is an easy solution to all the world's problems. It's just who has the balls to act on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iiv-6fMKyY

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by alex.s

if you live in the USA, chances are you have not even heard about what is currently going on in mexico. i suggest you go to another country's media like BBC and take a look at what is happening. then ask yourself why american media is not covering this.

Fresh news:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-...apulco-n254071

[JohnnyBravo]

Originally Posted by alex.s

when was the last time you got pulled over and you had to bribe the police before they would let you go on your way? because this has happened almost every time i have been in mexico.

the police don't write tickets. they take your money.

There have been times I wished I coulda bribed the police, but more for my benefit than theirs!!! I know the corruption in lots of places in the world, ours here is spreading quite rapidly in some places :/

[JohnnyBravo]

Count me out of any military **** storm y'all are brewing.