Kerosene spray bottle

[Lychee]

What kind of re-usable spray device can you use to lightly spray kerosene on to the chain?

[Jiggles]

I use this blue can

[spawned4562]

just get yourself one of these

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...ombo-Pack.aspx

and a Tupperware of kerosene to dip it in. that's what i do.

you can probably find that cheap elsewhere just using that link for instance.

[CZroe]

As mentioned earlier, WD-40 is spray-able kerosene. Also, you could dip a Grunge Brush in kerosene (no need to spray).

[Lychee]

Originally Posted by CZroe

As mentioned earlier, WD-40 is spray-able kerosene. Also, you could dip a Grunge Brush in kerosene (no need to spray).

Originally Posted by spawned4562

just get yourself one of these

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...ombo-Pack.aspx

and a Tupperware of kerosene to dip it in. that's what i do.

you can probably find that cheap elsewhere just using that link for instance.

Isn't the plastic in tupperware damaged by the kerosene? Maybe I can try a normal spray bottle. I just don't want to come home and find melted bottle you know what I mean?
I am pretty sure WD-40 is not simply kerosene. I also have heard differing opinions of WD-40's effect on oring chains, especially when sprayed directly from the can. I also like the way my head also spins when I smell kerosene as opposed to WD-40.

[spawned4562]

Originally Posted by Lychee

Isn't the plastic in tupperware damaged by the kerosene? Maybe I can try a normal spray bottle. I just don't want to come home and find melted bottle you know what I mean?
I am pretty sure WD-40 is not simply kerosene. I also have heard differing opinions of WD-40's effect on oring chains, especially when sprayed directly from the can. I also like the way my head also spins when I smell kerosene as opposed to WD-40.

I have had my in Tupperware for a while now and it hasn't eaten the plastic at all. You will probably end up changing out the kerosene more than you think depending on how often you clean your chain all i know is mine gets filthy quick. I think It has the odds of eating through the spray bottle just about as much as it would the Tupperware.

the reason the Tupperware method is easier is because you dont have to hold a brush and a bottle and spin your back tire all at the same time. I put my bike up on a rear stand, dip the brush in the kerosene then put it on the chain as i rotate the back tire with my other hand. do it top and bottom dipping back into the kerosene every so often to clean off crud and to apply more to the brush. then just go back with a rag and hold it around the chain while rotating the back tire to get all the kerosene off or at least as much as you can before you spray on the chain lube.

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by spawned4562

......then just go back with a rag and hold it around the chain while rotating the back tire to get all the kerosene off.......

Always rotate the rear tire backwards while you hold a rag around the chain.

The point where rear sprocket and chain meet can do serious damage to inattentive fingers.

The attached chart explains the plastics-kerosene interaction.
However, the real difficulty is to identify the type of plastic that you have.

Glass or metal containers are safer.

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by Motofool

Always rotate the rear tire backwards while you hold a rag around the chain.

The point where rear sprocket and chain meet can do serious damage to inattentive fingers.

^^^ This can never be stressed enough.

[Lychee]

Originally Posted by Motofool

Always rotate the rear tire backwards while you hold a rag around the chain.

The point where rear sprocket and chain meet can do serious damage to inattentive fingers.

The attached chart explains the plastics-kerosene interaction.
However, the real difficulty is to identify the type of plastic that you have.

Glass or metal containers are safer.

thanks, this information is helpful

[CZroe]

Originally Posted by Lychee

Isn't the plastic in tupperware damaged by the kerosene? Maybe I can try a normal spray bottle. I just don't want to come home and find melted bottle you know what I mean?
I am pretty sure WD-40 is not simply kerosene. I also have heard differing opinions of WD-40's effect on oring chains, especially when sprayed directly from the can. I also like the way my head also spins when I smell kerosene as opposed to WD-40.

Of course it's not simply kerosene.
"WD-40 is primarily composed of various hydrocarbons."
"Kerosene, a thin, clear liquid formed from hydrocarbons"

It has propellant and mineral oils too, but the kerosene is what cleans and removes the old lube with all the gunk and then evaporates. The things you read about the effects of WD-40 on O-Rings are talking about the effects of using it as a lube and not as a cleanser. It was done because a lot of people thought it was useful as a lube. We know better. We're talking about using it in place of kerosene in a spray bottle. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. We still intend to apply chain lube after cleaning.

Originally Posted by Motofool

Always rotate the rear tire backwards while you hold a rag around the chain.

The point where rear sprocket and chain meet can do serious damage to inattentive fingers.

The attached chart explains the plastics-kerosene interaction.
However, the real difficulty is to identify the type of plastic that you have.

Glass or metal containers are safer.

The direction you turn the tire all depends on which part of the chain's route you are cleaning from (top or bottom).

[Lychee]

Originally Posted by CZroe

Of course it's not simply kerosene.
"WD-40 is primarily composed of various hydrocarbons."
"Kerosene, a thin, clear liquid formed from hydrocarbons"

It has propellant and mineral oils too, but the kerosene is what cleans and removes the old lube with all the gunk and then evaporates. The things you read about the effects of WD-40 on O-Rings are talking about the effects of using it as a lube and not as a cleanser. It was done because a lot of people thought it was useful as a lube. We know better. We're talking about using it in place of kerosene in a spray bottle. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. We still intend to apply chain lube after cleaning.



The direction you turn the tire all depends on which part of the chain's route you are cleaning from (top or bottom).

Good to know. So, do you spray on the wd-40 directly on the chain or to a rag first? I have read that it will displace the permanent lubricant behind the orings when applied with any sort of pressure. I suppose control of the trigger finger could help. Or I can eliminate the possibility and stick to the kerosene and rag method I have been using.

[CZroe]

Originally Posted by Lychee

Good to know. So, do you spray on the wd-40 directly on the chain or to a rag first? I have read that it will displace the permanent lubricant behind the orings when applied with any sort of pressure. I suppose control of the trigger finger could help. Or I can eliminate the possibility and stick to the kerosene and rag method I have been using.

By the time it leaves the nozzle and travels an inch or two the pressure is negligible (falling speed). I'd imagine it's just as easy to penetrate the seal with kerosene and a grunge brush, but contamination isn't really a concern because the sealed lubricant is along the entire pin and not just around the tip with the O-ring. A little contamination at the rings can't displace/flush out all that. After applying chain lube it will seal the outside of the rings and hold dirt away while the sealed lubricant inside redistributes itself. The kerosene evaporates and the designer lube should be just as effective as ever even if the small amount of mineral oil isn't (you will have wiped most of that off before applying lube anyway).