Repair and sell, sell as is, or trade in?

[Sirref]

Originally Posted by Hero Danny

Your 250? Holy ****, my 300 has trouble getting up to 110 (takes like 5 minutes straight of WOT). What mods do you have???

It's not that long, if you shift at redline each gear you'll get to the top speed reasonably quick. I'm pretty sure that I can get my 300 up above gps 100mph in half a mile to 3/4 of a mile from a standing start

[Sirref]

Originally Posted by Hero Danny

Lol yes, again, this was on my 250. My 300 is a completely different story... She'll pull in 6th gear up until about 95 mph, then it becomes a slow grind. I love my 300! Honestly the 300 is enough for the highway, I can pass people very easily and I don't get blown around nearly half as much as my 2 fiddy. I guess that extra 10lbs and tire make a difference somehow...

Hmm, your gearing is stock right? I'm asking because that's just below the speed that redline in 5th gear is for me. I'm running one tooth up in the front and stock rear size. One thing to note is that 6th gear is an overdrive gear, it's designed for top speed not acceleration.

[alex.s]

one 250 has a tuned yoshi pipe with min spec lash. the other is stock everything. they both top out the same but the yoshi gets it there quicker. GPS reads about 104 at revlimiter.

[fishdip]

Originally Posted by Sirref

Your 300 must suck then, I've had my 300 up above 105mph (gps, 112 on dash) at least once every day for the past week with RPMs to spare

You have trouble reading 250 not 300 So I am sure your reading your speedo wrong.

[Sirref]

Originally Posted by fishdip

You have trouble reading 250 not 300 So I am sure your reading your speedo wrong.

gps is read after

and my 250 had no issue breaking 100gps either

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by alex.s

my bike does 110 indicated at redline in 6th. it has no problem getting there.

My old 250 had no problem doing that also

Originally Posted by Hero Danny

Your 250? Holy ****, my 300 has trouble getting up to 110 (takes like 5 minutes straight of WOT). What mods do you have???

My 300 goes triple digest in seconds not, minuets or a minuet or half a minuet.
What you say is wrong.

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by allanoue

My old 250 had no problem doing that also



My 300 goes triple digest in seconds not, minuets or a minuet or half a minuet.
What you say is wrong.

most of the time when people talk out of their ass like that its due to them never actually having done what they're talking about and instead of seen other people who are completely biased by other factors talking out of their ass.

[Jono]

To the OP, I would pay more than $1200 for the bike you described. Who knows what others would pay.

I say look at a Ninja 650 or SV650 if you want something better on the interstate. They are both faster than you need for street riding and much cheaper to maintain, insure, and buy than a 600 supersport. But it's your money. Do what you want. I say keep your 250 and buy a used 650cc sport bike.

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by Sirref

Your 300 must suck then, I've had my 300 up above 105mph (gps, 112 on dash) at least once every day for the past week with RPMs to spare

[csmith12]

^^^ lol yea

Look at like this... it's almost 1 to 1, ticket = 1 track day. That is how I keep my street speeds in check. hahahahahha

[Sirref]

That works for the most part, the real back roads are a bit easier to let loose on though

[alex.s]

bad child. bad.

[Sirref]

I get and accept why it's a bad idea

[alex.s]

so don't do it, eh?

we all get a little overzealous now and then, but every day the past week is asking to get arrested.

[Sirref]

fair argument, problem is that I don't really think when I do it. I just do it.

getting arrested for speeding sucks, I guess I can suck it up til my next track day in 11 days. I've got **** to get done with the track bike anyway so I won't have time for joyrides to the mountains and reservoirs

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by Sirref

problem is that I don't really think when I do it. I just do it.

thats the hard part aint it. just stay out of 6.

[FBR_BDavis]

I don't know what HeroDanny has done to his 250, but if it's topping out at 95 WOT in 6th, you've got issues or you're extremely heavy for the bike.. I'm 180 pounds without gear, and can hit 100mph rather easily with room to spare, and that's stock with the exception of a Musarri pipe..

Again, getting back to the OP, I would rate your bike in its current state as "beat up" to nearly "trashed", using Alex's classifications.. It won't take too much money to get it up a couple notches to a desirable bike, but it will take some time and effort..

[fishdip]

Originally Posted by Sirref

gps is read after

and my 250 had no issue breaking 100gps either

Mine is able to do 105 gps but with any sort of head wind. Or steep(6-8%)
hills the speed sucks. Also its about the bike being able to run the speeds with out having to over work the shifter. Some times its nice to only shift 2 times.

[fishdip]

Originally Posted by alex.s

most of the time when people talk out of their ass like that its due to them never actually having done what they're talking about and instead of seen other people who are completely biased by other factors talking out of their ass.

Yep just like alex saying he can race but Id kick his ass on any track on any bike.

[allanoue]

OP thinks he will be more comfortable on a superbike. Let him learn. What does not kill him will make him stronger.

+1 to getting a sv650

[fishdip]

Originally Posted by allanoue

OP thinks he will be more comfortable on a superbike. Let him learn. What does not kill him will make him stronger.

+1 to getting a sv650

[cbinker]

I am going to attack a different part of the post, if money is a problem now, the 636 will just amplify it.

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by fishdip

Yep just like alex saying he can race but Id kick his ass on any track on any bike.

who said i can race? i'm a terrible rider. you would probably win because i don't actually ride or own any motorcycles.

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by allanoue

OP thinks he will be more comfortable on a superbike. Let him learn. What does not kill him will make him stronger.

+1 to getting a sv650

or you could destroy your spine and be left partially paralyzed. oh hey that happened to my roommate kevin2109! what do you know. and heyyyy he was on a 636 too! what a coincidence

decisions have consequences

[fishdip]

Originally Posted by alex.s

who said i can race? i'm a terrible rider. you would probably win because i don't actually ride or own any motorcycles.

Don't worry I will let you win tho so your ego wont get hurt.

[alex.s]

what a nice guy! i dont think you'll be able to hold still for that long though.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by alex.s

or you could destroy your spine and be left partially paralyzed. oh hey that happened to my roommate kevin2109! what do you know. and heyyyy he was on a 636 too! what a coincidence

decisions have consequences

https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=156139

His he wiser for it?

[alex.s]

wiser yes. he also suffered a lot of brain damage that has been difficult for him to recover from. and has no use of his left arm, which he now wants to have amputated.

[fishdip]

Originally Posted by alex.s

wiser yes. he also suffered a lot of brain damage that has been difficult for him to recover from. and has no use of his left arm, which he now wants to have amputated.

If OP is good at not using the clutch then he wont need his also after he crashes his 636.

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by fishdip

If OP is good at not using the clutch then he wont need his also after he crashes his 636.

that's a bit too far.

[fishdip]

Originally Posted by alex.s

that's a bit too far.

Only by a arms length.

[slolane]

@Insane Pie

Many good points in this thread.

For cost considerations my take is... as your bike sits it would go for apx $900-1200 around here if you find someone who wants it in that shape. So list for $1500 and go from there. I personally wouldn't fix it up to sell as noted above you may need $1000 or more in parts alone and 250's in much better shape with 2-8k miles go for $2300-2800 around here so that math may not work out best for you. Parting out can be good but it takes time and patience as well as having a good shipping service, paying retail to ship heavy parts is costly. Do you have the packing supplies and time for that?

Regarding going to a supersport I would echo the above mentions of cost, mantainance, fuel and insurance... have you checked insurance yet, it will be drastically different if you carry full coverage. I have had a great deal of bikes myself but with over 25 years of street riding I love my Ninja 300, it's my favorite bike I have right now, it's also the cheapest. I rode it the most of all my bikes last year. A poster above noted being honest with yourself and what your intended riding is, this really is key... go for a bike designed for what you will mostly be using it for... is it commuting, errands, and some fun / spirited rides or is it drag strip on Friday's, weekend track days or maybe it is a lot of highway, touring, multi-day and/or multi-state trips. This is why there are so many bikes and they are so different for each application.

If you haven't checked out a 300 yet I wouldn't discount it. I used to have 2, Ninja 250's that we loved and and now the 300 which we like even more, it is a bit different so you may find that suits your needs/wants. Also, Yamaha is coming out with an R3 which you may be interested in. I would consider all the options before making a potentially expensive decision. If you have decided you need more power for sure then maybe the SV650, 500cc CBR's or maybe even the FZ07 would do the trick for you without being too expensive to purchase or insure.

Best of luck in whatever you decide and ride safe.

Cheers!

[Hero Danny]

Originally Posted by Sirref

Hmm, your gearing is stock right? I'm asking because that's just below the speed that redline in 5th gear is for me. I'm running one tooth up in the front and stock rear size. One thing to note is that 6th gear is an overdrive gear, it's designed for top speed not acceleration.

I guess I should of specified, I usually shift into 6th at around 80-85 mph.

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by fishdip

Only by a arms length.

- dood.... WTF!!!! That is not in the spirit of this forum, no need to be like that.

@Insane Pie - Want a 636, then get a 636 or whatever bike you like. You're ahead of many other riders with 0 miles to their credit that get a SS as their first bike. As for your original question, just sell it as is and cut your loss. If $$ is tight and you still want a different machine, check into salvage title bikes as there is big savings there. Find one with only cosmetic damage if you can. The process of going from salvage to a rebuilt title can be somewhat difficult and may be time consuming but can be worth the savings when it's all said and done.

Good luck!

[Hero Danny]

Originally Posted by allanoue

My 300 goes triple digest in seconds not, minuets or a minuet or half a minuet.
What you say is wrong.

I mean, I guess 5 minutes is a bit exaggerated, but it still is by no means an easy task, lots of tuck and waiting. You can definitely tell that once the 300 in 6th gear hits about 103 mph things go a LOT slower. Once I hit 106 (in my vid) I decided that was about as fast as it was going to go and I didn't like going that fast because of the fear of getting a ticket.

I calculated it out to go from 100 mph to 106 it took me exactly 22 seconds. Which yeah is not that long, but it feels like forever and you can definitely tell the bike is no longer pulling like it was before that 103 number. When I said the words "5 minutes" I meant like generically since 5 minutes is a long time. Hell I remember that day and from 103-106 felt like an hour (even though it was just 20 seconds).

I have a video:
(I slow down often times throughout it because I am about to pass by areas where cops like to hide. You can never be too careful.

Link to original page on YouTube.

Skip to about 2:00

Edit: I hope no one is getting the wrong impression that i'm dissatisfied by my 300's ability to do the highway, because that is NOT what i'm saying. haha, there is never a reason to go faster than even 90 mph imo. I was just surprised when I heard a 250 could do 110, since I felt like my 300 had sort of struggle up there... I also took a video of my 250 (keep in mind I was a lot more noobish back then and I think my bike's valves were tight, but she barely wanted to do 93 indicated never mind 110! (again, i'm sure there is rider error (shift to early, etc) and possibly some maintaince needed to be done but I still cannot helped but be surprised...) I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm sure Alex.s has gotten it up to 110 and others have as well, it was just surprising to me. No need to down vote and start yelling at me lmao.

Link to original page on YouTube.

I guess this brings up another great point for OP, maybe you should consider the ninja 300, as shown in the videos the 300 is more than capable and I get 65-70 mpg on my 300 opposed to my 250 which got 60-65. Seriously man, I know you want the 636 but the 300 should be considered too.

[Hero Danny]

Originally Posted by csmith12

- dood.... WTF!!!! That is not in the spirit of this forum, no need to be like that.

@Insane Pie - Want a 636, then get a 636 or whatever bike you like. You're ahead of many other riders with 0 miles to their credit that get a SS as their first bike. As for your original question, just sell it as is and cut your loss. If $$ is tight and you still want a different machine, check into salvage title bikes as there is big savings there. Find one with only cosmetic damage if you can. The process of going from salvage to a rebuilt title can be somewhat difficult and may be time consuming but can be worth the savings when it's all said and done.

Good luck!

Couldn't agree more. I don't know why people are giving him such a hard time. I mean, I guess he sort of asked for it by posting the question on the ninjette forums lol and i'm not saying the people arguing with him are "wrong" but it's clear that OP just wants a 636 and has justified it since he uses highway (even though it's not the best) and now he's looking for reassurance. So here it is OP, get the 636, you have experience with the 250. You have made mistakes and hopefully learned from them and now you're ready to move on. Good luck and please post up some pictures of the new ride once you get her!

[InvisiBill]

My first thought on seeing this was that there are a lot of bikes that fall between a 30hp Ninja 250 and a 130hp ZX6R. It's possible to upgrade from a 250 without going to a full 600cc I4 supersport.

If you can sacrifice style for price, Ninja 500's are cheap, while being pretty similar to the 250 with about twice the power. I was looking for a Ninjette, and ended up buying my nearly-new 500 because it was cheaper than any decent used 250 around here. They haven't been updated since the mid-90's though, so they're not as sleek looking as the NewGen and modern supersports. They're heavier than a 250, but a number of people who have upgraded to the 650 talk about how much more agile the 500 was.

[LNasty]

Why can't people just be honest on why they want to upgrade to larger bike. Had I said I wanted a 636 and you questioned as to why? My response would be; I want to go faster, fast enough to go to jail and lose my license. Fast enough that if I crash they will be picking up up pieces of me for miles. Everyone gives the same answer, "I just want to feel safer on the highway with a little more power to pass cars", or "A wider tire is more stable"...blah bla blah." At least be honest with us all and just come out and say, "Hey, I want a bike that can hit 140 in 6 seconds, while pulling a wheelie." I would at least respect that answer more. Has there been time where I wished I had a 600 or larger? **** yeah there has, but then I come back to reality and remember just how much insurance is on one, as well as the cost of maintaining one, plus I know that I am an adrenaline addict and it would be hard to contain myself on a larger bike. If your reasoning for wanting a 600 or bigger is because would want to look cooler with a fat tire on the back and can hit 150 if need be, then you probably should be the last person to own a motorcycle. I have never had an issue flying past cars on interstate on my 250. I definitely have gone fast enough to go to jail as well (yes, was a poor decision). If you can't get it done on the 250, your not doing it right and if you are not doing it right, you are not experienced enough to own a bike that is like having at least two and half 250's slapped together.

[fishdip]

Originally Posted by csmith12

- dood.... WTF!!!! That is not in the spirit of this forum, no need to be like that.

Yes because talking about him sucking dick or not sucking dick or how gay he is. When he is in the hospital right after the crash is so much better.

[csmith12]

Don't matter, it's not your choice. I wish I had the power to give you a slight vacation from posting here.