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Old May 1st, 2013, 11:11 PM   #1
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I was daydreaming and came up with a really cool idea. It might not be possible with a pregen ninja but the newgen 250 has points to mount frame sliders so WHAT IF you get a team of engineers/ whatever to combine the 2 bikes together, get really long cables for the brakes and combines them with a 2 into 1 box. then mechanically combine the shifting using just a long welded piece connecting them together, design a basic rack and pinion steering or whatever it is called to combine steering from both bikes. you would not need a differeial because the wheels are separate.....you would get a ****ing car! you can have 1 person on each bike simultneuously helping to steer , one person does half the other the other half...or make a seat in the middle and 1 person does it all. has this been done? maybe. if not whoever does this I want credit and money for the idea. officer's would say can I see your ID and registrations...?
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Old May 1st, 2013, 11:19 PM   #2
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.......You should day dream about something else and let others day dream about making cars.

.......like all of the engineers....who make cars.

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Old May 2nd, 2013, 01:00 AM   #3
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 01:50 AM   #4
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 03:40 AM   #5
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no it could work. theres lots of welders who have the skill to make the frame to combine these together. the rest is basic mechanics. do I sound crazy, yes. is it possible, extremely. a car is safe because it has 4 wheels, but its boring. a t-rex is cool but it cost too much. If I saw a 2 motorcycle car I would definately ride it.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 04:20 AM   #6
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 04:55 AM   #7
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You guys are a bunch of haters.

Dreamers built this country.

I say if you have the time and money do it.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 06:09 AM   #8
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Let me explain why it's a bad idea.

You hit on it yourself, you don't have a differential, because they are separate. Even if you can manage to link the throttles, the engines will be slightly different, and the power response will be slightly different, so that the two bikes will constantly be trying to move at different speeds. Without creating a differential, and then either using one engine between the two bikes or some sort of double differential where both engines power it and both wheels are powered equally by it, it simply would not work properly.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 06:14 AM   #9
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I say if you have the time and money do it.
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Let me explain why it's a bad idea.

You hit on it yourself, you don't have a differential, because they are separate. Even if you can manage to link the throttles, the engines will be slightly different, and the power response will be slightly different, so that the two bikes will constantly be trying to move at different speeds. Without creating a differential, and then either using one engine between the two bikes or some sort of double differential where both engines power it and both wheels are powered equally by it, it simply would not work properly.
you are wrong back in the day people build vw buggys with twin motorcycle rears.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 06:24 AM   #11
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you are wrong back in the day people build vw buggys with twin motorcycle rears.
And clearly it caught on, what with all of them you see running around these days, or being built these days.


It may have been done, but that doesn't mean it will work properly, or that it should be done.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 06:29 AM   #12
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 07:16 AM   #13
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You guys are a bunch of haters.

Dreamers built this country.

I say if you have the time and money do it.
Those same guys were also racist and chauvinistic lol see how that turned out.

On another note, i agree. With time and money, just about anything can be done. I.E. My father is building a trike in his garage. Started out as a 1969 Corvair rebuild project. 13 years later, he decided to scrap the frame and keep the mechanics. For the past 5 years now he's been slowing building the trike. Welding the frame and everything. Gas tank made from a slightly modified propane tank. Piece by piece. Time and money. That's all it takes. Oh yeah, one last thing. The body of it, is a coffin I know. A USED coffin i may add lol

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The flying version.

Most large airplanes have multiple engines. They also have the ability to adjust the air fuel mixture on the go. More importantly, they can adjust for the engines putting out slightly different amounts of thrust with the rudder, and it doesn't involve eating up your tires.

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Old May 2nd, 2013, 09:47 AM   #15
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 09:51 AM   #16
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 12:49 PM   #17
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no it could work...........If I saw a 2 motorcycle car I would definately ride it.
What are you going to do with 60 HP and the inability to lean that machine?

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Old May 2nd, 2013, 02:16 PM   #18
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just build it with links at the controls so only one person controls the vehicle.

then build links where both bikes lean into corners, and a computer controls the traction so the outer motorcycle is slightly faster.

then i would put a dummy on one side to freak people out.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 02:50 PM   #20
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What are you going to do with 60 HP and the inability to lean that machine?

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I'm asain, I'll just drift it
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 02:56 PM   #21
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 08:32 PM   #22
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I see what you are getting at but wouldn't that ruin the whole point of a motorcycle? You wouldn't have the agility of a bike which I think is the whole point. I just wouldn't feel free on a machine that has two people controlling it.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 09:18 PM   #23
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I just wouldn't feel free on a machine that has two people controlling it.
heh, I was going to make a joke about that but it's probably too harsh, it was going to be a marriage joke. anyways yeah I'm trying to change out some motorcycyl tires and I bought all this gear and been working too hard on it. 2 motorcycles, what was I thinking. my next idea is a gearbox with 9 or 12 speeds, that might catch on....
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I'm asain, I'll just drift it
The poor thing will roll over before you could ever drift it.

There is reason for sport cars to be low and wide, with the driver and passenger's butts two inches above the ground.

Going fast on a straight line you will be able to do, if you reduce the diameter of both rear sprockets about half.

Since each engine will feel about the same load as when they were pushing a single Ninjette, you will not need more steps in the gear boxes, but you will need to synchronize the shifting of both boxes perfectly.

Your cool project is as interesting as complicated.
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 06:02 AM   #25
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put the 250 motor into a gokart.
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Until someone makes your idea a reality, I think I'll just stick with a traditional bike that leans
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Let me explain why it's a bad idea.

You hit on it yourself, you don't have a differential, because they are separate. Even if you can manage to link the throttles, the engines will be slightly different, and the power response will be slightly different, so that the two bikes will constantly be trying to move at different speeds. Without creating a differential, and then either using one engine between the two bikes or some sort of double differential where both engines power it and both wheels are powered equally by it, it simply would not work properly.
Hey now.... I have a tractor in my yard that has two independent brakes... one for each rear wheel... why not two engines?? bahh hahahahah...... I can't keep a straight face.

I have promised myself though that if I ever wreck my bike, I'll turn it into a fully enclosed aerodynamic stretched bike with "landing gear"



I am serious about that part....
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