January 18th, 2014, 03:13 PM | #1 |
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Motorcycle tailgating car... best way to deal with it?
This happened to me earlier this afternoon. Here's the situation:
1. I was in my car. I was going about +10 the speed limit in the left lane. The traffic in the center and right lane was fairly heavy, and was going around +15 the speed limit. There is a shoulder on the left side. 2. Motorcycle comes up from behind, and follows me. I attempt to see if I can move over to the right, but everyone on the middle lane is tailgating everyone else, so I was unable to change lanes. 3. Motorcycle then tailgates me. This means I can't slow down, or else he would hit me from behind. He is then in the center lane position. 4. The motorcycle then moves to the extreme left position to the point where I can't see it in my rear view mirror, and I could barely see him in the corner of my side mirror. I move over slightly to the right as much as I could without getting sideswiped. 5. The motorcycle then goes between the yellow line and my car, and blows by me, giving me the digitus impudicus in the process. Was there a better way to deal with this problem?
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January 18th, 2014, 03:19 PM | #2 |
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You handled it perfectly. I would probly ignore them
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January 18th, 2014, 03:52 PM | #4 |
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Drive like normal If they hit you its there own dam fault for being stupid.
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January 18th, 2014, 03:53 PM | #5 | |
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From the California DMV: When being tailgated you should slow down gradually.
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January 18th, 2014, 04:00 PM | #6 | |
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Oh and another one of my favorites from lower down the page I quoted above...tap your brakes when being tailgated!
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January 18th, 2014, 04:02 PM | #7 |
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If it's a bike move over a little to give them a bit of room & they'll take the first overtake they can
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January 18th, 2014, 04:05 PM | #8 |
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Screw that lock them brakes up and let them hit you say you saw a squirrel with big nuts that was like weeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Then sue the crap out of them its the mearican way.
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January 18th, 2014, 04:15 PM | #9 |
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a) slow traffic -> KEEP RIGHT. stay out of the fast lane if you aren't going the fastest/actively making a pass.
b) he was tail gating you so you want to slow down? SPEED UP! or get out of the left lane c) let the bike pass on the right. there's too much **** on the left. you go to the far left so he can split the two clean lanes. never ever remain in the fast lane. the fast lane is not for cruising in because you don't feel like being in the other lane. the fast lane is for passing.
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January 18th, 2014, 04:34 PM | #10 |
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Going slow in the fast lane. You do not think you were going slow? Look around and do the math. You were in the wrong lane before the bike got stuck behind you.
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January 18th, 2014, 05:12 PM | #11 | |
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When I got on the highway on the left, I was actually traveling faster than the center/right lanes until this particular section when I was being tailgated. It was just bad luck (and probably psychology because the speed limit jumps up 10mph in about 1/2mi ahead) that I was all of a sudden the slowest car on the road with no way to get out of the left lane.
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I tried to get out of the left lane, but when the middle lane has cars tailgating each other and going +15, there was no way I could get into it.
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January 18th, 2014, 05:27 PM | #12 | |
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January 18th, 2014, 05:28 PM | #13 | |
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January 18th, 2014, 05:30 PM | #14 | ||
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January 18th, 2014, 05:32 PM | #15 |
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From my experience, NO ONE in Texas is a good driver.
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January 18th, 2014, 05:33 PM | #16 |
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Actually to be correct, you never said you were a sucky driver. I just figured it out myself. Now that you agree with me it just confirms it.
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January 18th, 2014, 05:58 PM | #17 |
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What we need is Google's automated cars here. Although, I have no idea how they're going to deal with the sheer number of bicyclists in this town, although with the downfall of Lance Armstrong, I haven't seen as many bicyclists in town.
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January 18th, 2014, 06:55 PM | #18 |
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Nobody that lane hogs gets any love from me... Use the fast lane to pass then GTFO!
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January 18th, 2014, 06:57 PM | #19 | |
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3. What tailgaters do (bike, truck, whatever) is none of your business. Yes, you could slowdown and even stop if needed. Would you rear end someone because a little bike is following you too close? By being so close and in the center lane position, the biker was trying to communicate to you that he was a moron (the type that flips the bird to anyone for no reason; hence, his opinion about you is worthless). 4. By doing that and inviting an illegal pass (two vehicles sharing one lane), you were creating a dangerous situation. What if the cars on your side do something stupid, or blow a tire, or you need to swerve to avoid a big chunk of debris, exactly at the moment the moron in a hurry is passing you? Hope you have a different mind set while riding your bike. Your focus should be far ahead, area from which 90% of danger will come to mess with you. Knowing what is going on around and behind you is good, but a systematic quick glance should suffice, as long as what you see does not occupy your eyes-attention-processing-decision for more than half a second. When your bike speedometer is marking 70 mph, you are approaching to those dangers at 100 feet per each second !!! .......... and your bike and you will roll over more than 250 feet to come to a complete stop, if you are proficient at braking !!! I hope those numbers give you the reason to attentively see forward and the reason for statistics on rear ended bike accidents to be as small as 2%.
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January 18th, 2014, 08:07 PM | #20 | |
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January 18th, 2014, 09:21 PM | #21 | |
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Even though it technically wouldn't be my fault for insurance and liability purposes, it would suck if the motorcyclist was injured because he rearended into my car, regardless of the use of the digitus impudicus.
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January 18th, 2014, 10:12 PM | #22 | |
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Maybe you are too nice to like driving down here in Florida ........ way too many non-polite drivers.
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January 18th, 2014, 10:18 PM | #23 | |
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Uggg... Sorry brah but if your in the left lane and getting passed then you know... What do you do? Turn on your right turn signal. It flashes... just like tapping the brake, which is kinda dumb too. Anyway, using your turn signal will do 2 things; alert the rider of your intention and maybe even keep their road rage in check and alert the drivers in the lane to the right you want over. Merge when safe and let the rider pass. And as always, "Put as much distance as possible between you and stupidity. You will live a longer and happier life." - csmith12
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January 18th, 2014, 10:57 PM | #24 | |
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January 18th, 2014, 11:10 PM | #25 |
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January 19th, 2014, 01:08 AM | #26 |
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You handled the situation the best way it could have been handled. That said, the left lane is reserved for people who want to go faster than everyone else.
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January 19th, 2014, 06:29 AM | #27 | |
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If so everyone else thinks 'there's a nice gap, I'll have that' and you slow down, drop back another 4 or so seconds to open up an 8 second gap to be poached by the next car Learn to ****ing drive or stay in the slow lane. Idiots like you are the reason for crashes, people get pissed off with your **** driving and take chances. Next time you have someone tailgating you think "is there something that I'm doing that's causing them to behave like this", then look right to see are you going faster than the traffic there. If not there's your problem. Do you always need someone else to think for you? |
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January 19th, 2014, 07:24 AM | #28 | |
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As a constant speeder, if I get stuck behind a slow car, it's due my lack of planning to avoid that! Not the other people on road who are following (or closer than I am) the rules of road. Keep your intended speed/lane and the person who wants to go faster will make a plan of action. If they flick you off for it, it's because they are one of those who cannot handle the results of their actions, and probably always feel 'someone else is to blame'.
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January 19th, 2014, 08:31 AM | #30 |
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Left lane is the passing lane, if you want to go slower then traffic stay to the right 2 lanes, my uncle used to drive dump trunk in Phoenix and he always stayed in the middle lane till about 1 mile from his exit.
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January 19th, 2014, 08:53 AM | #31 | |
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January 19th, 2014, 10:11 AM | #32 | |
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Lane 1 is for regular driving (where you should have been), lane 2 is for overtaking vehicles in lane 1, lane 3 (where you were) is for passing vehicles in lanes 1 & 2. On a highway traffic flows like a stream, it can go quickly & reasonably safely as long as there are no obstructions. You are an obstruction, your failure to move at an appropriate pace for the lane you're in causes the traffic to build up behind you & have to cut into slower lanes to pass you. That makes you a danger to yourself and others. Go do a defensive driving course or some proper advanced rider training, hell even ask your local MSF instructor about lane discipline & why driving slow in the fast lane is dangerous. |
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January 19th, 2014, 11:42 AM | #33 |
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It is interesting seeing how many posters see no problem in speeding and tailgating someone just because that person is not speeding enough while invading a lane "assigned" to super-speeders.
What is enough speeding? Is there a limit for that? If you are passing on the left at 15 mph above speed limit, and a guy comes flying onto your rear while making 40 mph above that limit, you automatically take the spot of the OP. Would you avoid passing on the left lane just because some self-centered reckless driver or rider decides that he is way above the law, ........... and better and faster than anyone else around? Can you guys see the violence and non-sense in the behavior that we seem to approve in this thread? Yes, any form of disrespect is violence, and violence has caused enough sorrow and pain and destruction in our societies. Why being so hard on the OP and showing so much solidarity with that moron in a bike? Because we would also flip the bird to the dangerous cager that is blocking our merry way and "forcing" us to take dangerous alternatives. Because we are also intolerant as soon as we feel protected by a cage. Real life traffic conditions put slow vehicles on the left lane during each rush hour in this planet, except maybe the Autobahn. I yet have to see a road congested by slow vehicles that stay away from the fast lane, while fast vehicles enjoy their privilege. It simply doesn't work that way !!! When we are cagers, we should drive smart and courteously, just as we expect good cagers to drive, .......... or we just become one more idiot on four wheels.
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January 19th, 2014, 12:05 PM | #34 | |
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If you are tailgating and flipping the bird your a and a bad rider. If you're in the fast lane and everyone is passing you on the right and do not understand why or how to avoid that situation, well you need more experience and need to adjust your driving habits. When the OP looks in the mirror who does he see.
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If I'm going above the speed limit, I don't care what lane I'm in or if someone gets butthurt about it not being fast enough for them.
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Someone lane hogging below pace in 3 & being passed on the inside disrupts the entire flow & causes faster traffic to have to merge in to slower traffic. That poses a risk to the traffic in lane 2, as they have people moving in quickly & have to assess & adjust their speed or position, the fast traffic has to adjust to a slow moving obstacle. Being an obstruction is more dangerous than an extra 5mph |
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