Leo Vince vs AreaP

rc-rick · July 2nd, 2013, 02:09 PM

I had a get off on Sunday which bent my header and smashed the carbon sleeve on my AreaP. The one I destroyed was a full street exhaust. The next one I get will be full race. I can pick up the Leo full exhaust at a really good price or stay with the AreaP which is what both the front running Kawis are running in our series. I'm not buying a pipe for looks or sound, I want performance. I did a little research and could really find anything about the full race Leo being used in a race environment.

I guess my question is, will the Leo perform as well as the AreaP? If so I will get that as I can probably get it for 100 cheaper than the AreaP.

Here is the video of my wreck front and rear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX8mnlZVRQc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0OVuB8ayjM

csmith12 · July 2nd, 2013, 02:14 PM

Ninjas running 1:12's with both pipes @ Beaver run last Sunday. All in the tuning I guess.

I would be interested in the dyno numbers between the two also.

KazMan · July 2nd, 2013, 02:38 PM

Out here in California the majority of us are running LeoVince pipes, with many of the lap records as well.

I personally run the GP Corsa pipe and my bike with a young racer I am sponsoring has the lap record at Las Vegas.

If you are interested in a LeoVince pipe, please contact David Christensen at LeoVince or if you want to pm me, I can provide you with a discount code.

For me personally, I like the latest pipe as it strengthened the mid range by about 1-1/2 hp while giving it a nudge on top end over my previous Leo pipe.

If you do go the Leo route, I can also send you some info on my jetting to help you with a starting point.

Eric

Jred · July 2nd, 2013, 05:57 PM

I just installed a Leo Vince...will be racing it this weekend and will post up my impression.

Trailerboy531 · July 2nd, 2013, 06:13 PM

Both are great pipes. It really comes down to the rider and you will be happy with either one.

rojoracing53 · July 2nd, 2013, 06:28 PM

I had on the full Leo Vince street exhaust with the fully restricted silencing core because I was to lazy to pull it out

Still gave a few of those guys a good show

Then again my bike was a little slow but it was practically still in street trim so she was heavy. But come winter time while you guys are all freezing you asses off ill have my heater gloves and jacket going

I worry about the louder free flowing cans not having enough back pressure for our weakass bikes. I'd be nice to see a much wider spectrum of exhaust testing done all on one bike to compare apples to apples but I doubt that's going to happen.

KazMan · July 3rd, 2013, 05:38 AM

Yes, with the old pipe we had better results with the insert in as it created better mid-range for torque out of turns.

Somchai · July 17th, 2013, 07:35 AM

Maybe post #136 can give you some help http://www.kawiforums.com/ninja-250r...nly-yo-14.html

mgentz · July 17th, 2013, 03:59 PM

Go leo

rc-rick · July 17th, 2013, 08:12 PM

I ended up with the Leo. Got it for a pretty good price. Looks great, good fit! Now to get it to the track to put it to the test.

July 2nd, 2013, 02:14 PM	#2
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Ninjas running 1:12's with both pipes @ Beaver run last Sunday. All in the tuning I guess. I would be interested in the dyno numbers between the two also. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

July 2nd, 2013, 06:13 PM	#5
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	Both are great pipes. It really comes down to the rider and you will be happy with either one. __________________________________________________ CVMA #531

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July 2nd, 2013, 02:09 PM	#1
rc-rick ninjette.org member Name: Rick Location: St Peters Join Date: Feb 2013 Motorcycle(s): '09 ZX6 (street), '04 RC51 (street/track), '08 Ninja 250 (race) Posts: 104	Leo Vince vs AreaP I had a get off on Sunday which bent my header and smashed the carbon sleeve on my AreaP. The one I destroyed was a full street exhaust. The next one I get will be full race. I can pick up the Leo full exhaust at a really good price or stay with the AreaP which is what both the front running Kawis are running in our series. I'm not buying a pipe for looks or sound, I want performance. I did a little research and could really find anything about the full race Leo being used in a race environment. I guess my question is, will the Leo perform as well as the AreaP? If so I will get that as I can probably get it for 100 cheaper than the AreaP. Here is the video of my wreck front and rear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX8mnlZVRQc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0OVuB8ayjM

July 2nd, 2013, 02:38 PM	#3
KazMan ninjette.org member Name: Eric Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): none yet Posts: 228	Out here in California the majority of us are running LeoVince pipes, with many of the lap records as well. I personally run the GP Corsa pipe and my bike with a young racer I am sponsoring has the lap record at Las Vegas. If you are interested in a LeoVince pipe, please contact David Christensen at LeoVince or if you want to pm me, I can provide you with a discount code. For me personally, I like the latest pipe as it strengthened the mid range by about 1-1/2 hp while giving it a nudge on top end over my previous Leo pipe. If you do go the Leo route, I can also send you some info on my jetting to help you with a starting point. Eric

July 2nd, 2013, 05:57 PM	#4
Jred ninjette.org member Name: john Location: Houston Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): Several Posts: 61	I just installed a Leo Vince...will be racing it this weekend and will post up my impression.

July 2nd, 2013, 06:28 PM	#6
rojoracing53 Fast-Guy wannabe Name: Jason Location: Brentwood, Ca Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja250, 2011 RM-Z250, 2004 NSR50, Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '13	I had on the full Leo Vince street exhaust with the fully restricted silencing core because I was to lazy to pull it out Still gave a few of those guys a good show Then again my bike was a little slow but it was practically still in street trim so she was heavy. But come winter time while you guys are all freezing you asses off ill have my heater gloves and jacket going I worry about the louder free flowing cans not having enough back pressure for our weakass bikes. I'd be nice to see a much wider spectrum of exhaust testing done all on one bike to compare apples to apples but I doubt that's going to happen.

July 3rd, 2013, 05:38 AM	#7
KazMan ninjette.org member Name: Eric Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): none yet Posts: 228	Yes, with the old pipe we had better results with the insert in as it created better mid-range for torque out of turns.

July 17th, 2013, 07:35 AM	#8
Somchai Freedom for Germany Location: This World Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R-FI Posts: A lot.	Maybe post #136 can give you some help http://www.kawiforums.com/ninja-250r...nly-yo-14.html

July 17th, 2013, 03:59 PM	#9
mgentz Board Member Name: ... Location: WI Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 250R (street), 250R (dirt) Posts: A lot.	Go leo

July 17th, 2013, 08:12 PM	#10
rc-rick ninjette.org member Name: Rick Location: St Peters Join Date: Feb 2013 Motorcycle(s): '09 ZX6 (street), '04 RC51 (street/track), '08 Ninja 250 (race) Posts: 104	I ended up with the Leo. Got it for a pretty good price. Looks great, good fit! Now to get it to the track to put it to the test.