Jumping ship in 2015 - Yamaha R25/R3 - Page 11

Jono · October 16th, 2014, 12:24 PM

Yeah the range is a non-issue for most. I'm used to filling up at 100 miles on my KLX. It's got a 2 gallon tank. And my SV's fuel light comes on with like 140 ish miles.

xorbe · October 16th, 2014, 01:24 PM

42 (crank?) hp is going to be 35-36 whp ... not any more than the Ninja 300 really?

Ninja, 49mm stroke. Yam R3, 44mm stroke.

DCMoney · October 16th, 2014, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

Yeah the range is a non-issue for most. I'm used to filling up at 100 miles on my KLX. It's got a 2 gallon tank. And my SV's fuel light comes on with like 140 ish miles.

My light has come on at 75 miles before on my 1198, I was pushing it though...

Like the price of the R3 but I'll still probably buy a RC390.

cadd · October 16th, 2014, 02:04 PM

This little Yamaha looks like it's going to be the king of the small displacement class. More HP than Honda & Kawi. Less expensive than both! ABS is standard.

I hope their quality control is good with this R3! This will make Kawi sweat a little....and that's a great thing! We need more competition =)

I wonder when Suzuki will jump in?

alex.s · October 16th, 2014, 02:08 PM

https://i.imgur.com/ft6LbRX.jpg

i'll take two, please!

kdogg2077 · October 16th, 2014, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadd

This little Yamaha looks like it's going to be the king of the small displacement class. More HP than Honda & Kawi. Less expensive than both! ABS is standard.

I hope their quality control is good with this R3! This will make Kawi sweat a little....and that's a great thing! We need more competition =)

I wonder when Suzuki will jump in?

Where does it say ABS is standard? That would be AWESOME cause it would put the heat on the other manufacturers to do the same...which would somewhat minimize the cost of ABS, since every bike would have it. Economies of scale and such.

Jono · October 16th, 2014, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kdogg2077

Where does it say ABS is standard? That would be AWESOME cause it would put the heat on the other manufacturers to do the same...which would somewhat minimize the cost of ABS, since every bike would have it. Economies of scale and such.

On the Yamaha Europe website... http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/eu/produc...rt/yzf-r3.aspx

adouglas · October 16th, 2014, 03:19 PM

xorbe · October 16th, 2014, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

On the Yamaha Europe website... http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/eu/produc...rt/yzf-r3.aspx

Yamaha also doesn't give USA any ABS on the FZ-07 / MT-07. No mention of ABS on the Yamaha R3 US web site.

Jono · October 16th, 2014, 04:25 PM

We probably won't get it.

Alex · October 16th, 2014, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

On the Yamaha Europe website... http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/eu/produc...rt/yzf-r3.aspx

ABS is required on all street bikes > 125cc at some point soon in Europe; it may be as soon as 2015 (need to google).

EDIT: wikipedia says that the law goes into effect for 2016.

Roark · October 16th, 2014, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

ABS is required on all street bikes > 125cc at some point soon in Europe; it may be as soon as 2015 (need to google).

EDIT: wikipedia says that the law goes into effect for 2016.

So what does that mean for US? 10 years?

xorbe · October 16th, 2014, 05:24 PM

I don't want mandatory, just mandatorily optional ... I can appreciate not everyone wants it or wants to pay for it. It's easier to remove the abs system, than it is to add, in the worst case.

choneofakind · October 16th, 2014, 06:24 PM

Well that seals it. What's MSRP? I want a sumo but this looks too good to pass up. When can I get one.

Somchai · October 16th, 2014, 06:32 PM

- powerwise to optimistic, but anyway besides the R25 a real beauty and the best looking bike in the class.

Klondike1020 · October 16th, 2014, 10:53 PM

Yeah so best ad I have seen in a while

lol A Yamaha small bike sounds good to me. I think it might be a 1 up on KTMs

Link to original page on YouTube.

superflytako · October 16th, 2014, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Well that seals it. What's MSRP? I want a sumo but this looks too good to pass up. When can I get one.

Per the website, I believe its 4990. Definitely considering this bike to fill the void of my wrecked 300

buhsray · October 16th, 2014, 11:20 PM

Wow Yamaha finally joined the 300cc train

subxero · October 17th, 2014, 05:48 AM

By the sounds of it, Yamaha is doing it right, the bike sounds very appealing. I would definitely like to ride one sometime but I have no room in the stable for another bike at the moment, or at least no room in my bank account for another bike so for now its the ninja and I till death do us part

Foxrider64 · October 17th, 2014, 05:57 AM

My fear is the infiltration of the 300+cc bikes in to the ultra lightweight race classes. The rules are currently allowing 300s but all the manufacturers are pushing the limits of who can make the biggest small bike.

At almost 40hp at the wheel there is no way my little ninja could still remaining within the rules of the class and touch that bike. I hope CCS doesn't change the rules allowing up to 350cc's for liquid cooled four strokes

subxero · October 17th, 2014, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrider64

My fear is the infiltration of the 300+cc bikes in to the ultra lightweight race classes. The rules are currently allowing 300s but all the manufacturers are pushing the limits of who can make the biggest small bike.

At almost 40hp at the wheel there is no way my little ninja could still remaining within the rules of the class and touch that bike. I hope CCS doesn't change the rules allowing up to 350cc's for liquid cooled four strokes

Yeah I was wondering about this myself last night. Where do the race org's draw the line?

Foxrider64 · October 17th, 2014, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subxero

Yeah I was wondering about this myself last night. Where do the race org's draw the line?

The problem is that the races orgs will be driven by popularity and $$$

Being as Kawi stopped making the 250 it is only a matter of time before they expand the class and we will be forced to make the bump.

sharky nrk · October 17th, 2014, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrider64

The problem is that the races orgs will be driven by popularity and $$$

Being as Kawi stopped making the 250 it is only a matter of time before they expand the class and we will be forced to make the bump.

THIS^^^^^

While it sucks ... its true. The reality is for a LONG time Kawi was the only name in the game. But with everyone now getting on board (and Kawi themselves at 296cc) the 250s are going to get phased out and be noncompetitive.

The only thing that would be a potential would be to let the 250s run SBK trim and the 300+ run SSTK trims. Even then I am not sure ......

Desmoluci · October 17th, 2014, 07:27 AM

She fine...

alex.s · October 17th, 2014, 07:36 AM

hey! that's chuckwalla.

csmith12 · October 17th, 2014, 07:37 AM

seems legit...

alex.s · October 17th, 2014, 07:37 AM

lmfao. the naked guy! "Kiss her!"

Jono · October 17th, 2014, 07:59 AM

I swear I read somewhere that Yamaha is expanding their motocross bLU cRU amateur racing program to road racing. If that's the case, I see Yamaha dominating that race class.

xorbe · October 17th, 2014, 08:46 AM

Honda, cbr300. Kawa, ninja 300. Yamaha r3. What 250cc, at least for USA.

Hot 350cc twin might be too much bike for some learners, would need rpm limiter toggle switch.

The 42 hp number for the R3, where did that come from? That might be 1-2 hp more at the wheel at the top end, but I don't think it's going to separate from the Ninja. The Ninja has a 9% longer stroke and is probably going to be more torquey under 8K rpms. Ah right, but the R3 has 8% more displacement.

Sirref · October 17th, 2014, 08:48 AM

"now I know you've got a beer back there, don't you be holdin' out on me" - exactly what I'd say in that situation

CC Cowboy · October 17th, 2014, 08:50 AM

Do you think Colin will let me ride her?

Sirref · October 17th, 2014, 08:55 AM

nah they could push it up to 400cc and it'd still be fine for learners as the power would be linear (and still low) and the only way you'd get the front end off the ground would be by clutch.

I don't think they'll go over 400cc though because then they'd be in 500cc territory, Feels like it's going to stay around where it is, no more "cheater bike" mentality in the small displacement class just better suspension and brakes because those are the real "go fast" parts

psych0hans · October 17th, 2014, 09:53 AM

As an advertisement... This sucks ass... As a bike, definitely got potential... as for the babe... I'm with CC... Any chance?

rgx107 · October 17th, 2014, 12:22 PM

Anyone know what they mean by direct drive camshaft?

Bubba · October 17th, 2014, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xorbe

42 (crank?) hp is going to be 35-36 whp ... not any more than the Ninja 300 really?

Ninja, 49mm stroke. Yam R3, 44mm stroke.

All the specs on the R3 are about equal to the Ninja, it's now a choice between blue or green.

With 6-8 more HP and 15 kg less weight, I'd choose orange.

Bubba · October 17th, 2014, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xorbe

Honda, cbr300. Kawa, ninja 300. Yamaha r3. What 250cc, at least for USA.

Hot 350cc twin might be too much bike for some learners, would need rpm limiter toggle switch.

The 42 hp number for the R3, where did that come from? That might be 1-2 hp more at the wheel at the top end, but I don't think it's going to separate from the Ninja. The Ninja has a 9% longer stroke and is probably going to be more torquey under 8K rpms. Ah right, but the R3 has 8% more displacement.

the Yamaha power peak is actually 1000rpms below the ninja.

Bubba · October 17th, 2014, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirref

nah they could push it up to 400cc and it'd still be fine for learners as the power would be linear (and still low) and the only way you'd get the front end off the ground would be by clutch.

I don't think they'll go over 400cc though because then they'd be in 500cc territory, Feels like it's going to stay around where it is, no more "cheater bike" mentality in the small displacement class just better suspension and brakes because those are the real "go fast" parts

The whole 250,300, 320 cc thing is about EU regulations. This has nothing to do with North America.
The Yamaha R3 specs are right near the power/weight limit for the EU in that age category. That's why all this bikes have about the same power and weight.

The RC390 is right on the limit.

Bubba · October 17th, 2014, 12:43 PM

the first 1:40 segment of that ad... the point?

csmith12 · October 17th, 2014, 12:45 PM

Think deeper bubba, the ad target is NOT to males.

snot · October 17th, 2014, 01:09 PM

I like the R3, I like some of the features. I might turn the 300 in to track and buy the R3 for street.

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xorbe ninjette.org guru Name: xorbe Location: Bay Area, CA Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): N650 (and others) Posts: 408	42 (crank?) hp is going to be 35-36 whp ... not any more than the Ninja 300 really? Ninja, 49mm stroke. Yam R3, 44mm stroke.

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cadd cadd cadd cadd Name: Cadd Location: 41°21'13.1"N, 74°41'37.4"W Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): 300 Posts: A lot. MOTM - May '15	This little Yamaha looks like it's going to be the king of the small displacement class. More HP than Honda & Kawi. Less expensive than both! ABS is standard. I hope their quality control is good with this R3! This will make Kawi sweat a little....and that's a great thing! We need more competition =) I wonder when Suzuki will jump in?

October 16th, 2014, 04:25 PM	#410
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xorbe ninjette.org guru Name: xorbe Location: Bay Area, CA Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): N650 (and others) Posts: 408	I don't want mandatory, just mandatorily optional ... I can appreciate not everyone wants it or wants to pay for it. It's easier to remove the abs system, than it is to add, in the worst case.

October 16th, 2014, 06:24 PM	#414
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Well that seals it. What's MSRP? I want a sumo but this looks too good to pass up. When can I get one.

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