May 29th, 2016, 10:44 AM | #1 |
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Gear for summer riding?
This is my first summer riding season. It is really hot now. I'm all about the gear but my jacket and leather pants are killing me in this heat.
For the first time, I'm so tempted to ride without gear. What do you guys do in the summer? Is there any protection that can work in the summer. |
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May 29th, 2016, 11:08 AM | #2 |
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mesh gear with shoulder/elbow/back padding. Then again the mesh areas offer little abrasion resistance so you are sacrificing protection for comfort. Jeans of some sort are a must imo. You will always sweat a little no matter what gear you choose.
Personally I would rather be a little sweaty than a little broken/bloody. |
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May 29th, 2016, 12:06 PM | #3 |
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What RJ says. While I sometimes ride around in regular jeans, I prefer my Protekt jeans (by Aerostich) with the kneepads installed: heavier-than-normal denim, two layers thick in the right places.
A DOT-rated motocross helmet offers decent face protection and good airflow. I always wear gloves and boots (regardless of temperature). |
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May 29th, 2016, 12:16 PM | #4 | |
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May 29th, 2016, 01:19 PM | #5 |
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My rev'it jacket and pants have a removable inner liner for warmer weather. It helps a lot! I don't feel hot when riding, only when stopped, but what can ya do?
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May 29th, 2016, 02:19 PM | #6 | |
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May 29th, 2016, 07:26 PM | #7 |
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I either wear preferred leathers, or mesh textile, gloves, and boots of course.
I also wear Under Armour Heat Gear compression. My choice is Fieldsheer for gear, Oxtar for boots, now their called TXC? , and Fulmer helmets
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May 29th, 2016, 08:07 PM | #8 |
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I think he meant perforated, not preferred. Darn spellchecks!
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May 29th, 2016, 08:10 PM | #9 |
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Mesh jacket and pants keep you cool while riding. You will be too hot only when stopped ... I have a full face helmet with vents that can be opened or closed. Also been known to visor up and wear sunglasses.
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May 29th, 2016, 08:58 PM | #10 |
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May 29th, 2016, 10:49 PM | #11 | |
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I must admit I switch to mesh textile when it start to get to the mid 80s and above. It offers better breathing than my perforated leathers.
The downside to textile is in the event of get off, leathers are always better, slide/abrasion protection. SIDENOTE: No matter what you pick make sure the armour is CE rated, especially the back protector, some jackets only come with a piece of foam, if that's the case upgrade to a CE Level 2 or at least Level 1. Buy quality gear no matter what, spend to money right the first time, it's your skin, and life, and remember ER visits are expensive, not to mention lost time at work, your family, loved ones, etc..... I feel the need to share this posting from the EX-500.COM that happened back in 2009, but it's a timeless story, the lessons from my mistake (somewhat graphic, be careful) It's a simple enough story, that went totally wrong, by a fellow forum member by the name of mgbenny Here is his first post in the long thread, which has over 30,000 views. Quote:
And why I'm such a strong supporter of her cause, and A.T.G.A.T.T. If this post saves just one person, it is worth it, and makes one think before riding with no gear.
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May 30th, 2016, 12:24 AM | #12 |
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May 30th, 2016, 12:28 AM | #13 |
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With regards to jeans, I do wear jeans, or dress pants, when in going out date, etc.. and it's convenient for full gear pants, when I do I wear Bohn Bodyguard Adventure Armored Pants Hip, thigh, knee/shin & tailbone protection.
These are ideal for those who really want to be protected, but still ride in jeans. These are for impact protection, and fit under your regular jeans or pants. While not 100% ideal, the offer great protection from the initial fall/impact. I do have few pairs of Kevlar reinforced jeans, and with the Bohn Bodyguard System I feel safe. https://www.bohn.com The most overlooked gear is the boots, I wear Oxtar because it's one of few the are CE rated. If your looking for great gear reviews try http://www.webbikeworld.com/, and Revzilla.com, is Anthony still doing the YouTube videos?
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May 30th, 2016, 05:04 AM | #14 |
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May 30th, 2016, 06:30 AM | #15 |
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May 30th, 2016, 06:35 AM | #16 |
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Men have is so much easier than women as far as finding gear goes.. These are all good suggestions but I dont wanna look like a box :-/ guess I'll just be hot.
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June 6th, 2016, 06:22 AM | #17 | |
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June 6th, 2016, 06:25 AM | #18 |
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LOL maybe a little, but I've watched so many reviews by revzilla on ladies version of mens gear and its always the same line. "The ladies version is missing some of the protection that you get with them mens version" like why? and its always higher priced than the mens stuff yet lacks the protection the mens versions offer!
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June 6th, 2016, 07:16 AM | #19 |
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For me, there is only one right answer. Perforated leather.
Here's a short blog with some food for thought: https://www.ninjette.org/forums/blog.php?b=8330 Apologies to those who've heard this one before, but I'm not sure if O or Z have. If you go down you're probably going to hit the ground from a height of about two or three feet, going about 40 mph. Maybe faster, maybe slower, but that's a reasonable guesstimate. Imagine you're riding in a van going 40 mph, and you're wearing your gear. Picture yourself going to the side door and sliding it open. Crouch in the doorway. Watch the pavement go by. Get a feel for it. Now roll out. Ask yourself just one question: Will your choice of gear allow you to get up and walk away unharmed? Will that mesh jacket's seams hold together? Will that material hold up when exposed to what, in effect, is a belt sander? Is your gear snug enough to keep the armor in place? When you instinctively throw your hands out to protect yourself, will your gloves cover all exposed skin? If the answer is no, then why in God's name aren't you wearing gear that will protect you? Insert gruesome road rash photo here. Or just go Google Brittany Morrow. http://www.rockthegear.org/ Enough with the dope-slap rant about protecting yourself. Bottom line: Dress for the crash, not for the ride. Here are some tips to keep cool when wearing proper gear: - Get a skull cap or balaclava. Run it under cold water, wring it out and wear it. Will keep you frosty for quite a while. Re-wet it when you stop. - Wear long-sleeved, long-legged wicking base layer garments under your gear, not street clothes. Both tops and bottoms... bare skin against your jacket or pants will grab. It won't make you hotter... it'll wick the sweat and let it evaporate, which cools you. Also, wet the top as noted above. That will keep you REALLY cool for a good long while. If you need street clothes, put 'em in a backpack. - Carry a sports bottle full of water and when you feel hot, unzip your jacket a bit and shoot some down your chest. - If you have room, get one of those magic cooling towels and drape it over your neck when you stop. - Maybe consider a cooling vest. I get good results from the wet-base-layer, so generally don't use mine.
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June 6th, 2016, 07:41 AM | #20 |
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http://www.cyclegear.com/BILT-Predat...otorcycle-Suit
getting this soon and getting it sized to my liking only down side is no back protector, I wonder if i can sew one in... |
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June 6th, 2016, 07:53 AM | #21 |
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That's meant for track days. The idea is that you wear a separate back protector under it.
A two-piece is far more practical, because you can take the jacket off when you stop. I have a onesie race suit for the track, and separate jacket and pants for the street. Theory was that the zip around the waist would add bulk, and it does... but comfort is a big deal in the summer and there are times I wish I could just lose the upper half. Wish I'd gotten a two-piece race suit, or just worn my street gear. My personal gear is an Alpinestars perforated leather jacket (GP-something, maybe GP-Pro... I can never keep A* naming straight) and AGV Sport Willow perforated leather pants. The zippers didn't match but that's a trivial sewing job. Jacket was bought used. The Willow pants are a great bargain. Not expensive and they've held up quite well. I'm getting wear from squeezing the Stomp Grips on my tank, but no biggie.
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June 6th, 2016, 08:13 AM | #22 | |
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lol I dont know... its really cheap, however the sizing is still iffy for me, I might just buy leather pants http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...-leather-pants (try to squeez into a 40) and then worry about a leather jacket later, I have one with CE armor in the eblows shoulders and back |
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June 6th, 2016, 08:49 AM | #23 |
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Armored leather offers the best protection. If you choose to wear less than that you're making a decision to be less protected.
That being said if you have a one piece track suit that you never wear to commute to work because you find it too hot, too heavy, too difficult etc it's not going to do you any good if you go down and it's in your closet. Sometimes the "best" gear is the gear that you'll wear all the time. Find gear that fits well, that's comfortable, and offers a level of protection that you're comfortable with. Last futzed with by Panda; June 6th, 2016 at 10:53 AM. |
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June 6th, 2016, 10:46 AM | #25 |
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I'm convinced. I'm sticking with my gear even in this hot weather.
So do the Bohn pants offer any slide protection or just impact? |
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June 6th, 2016, 10:51 AM | #26 |
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Nothing more than impact.
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June 6th, 2016, 11:41 AM | #27 |
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I found a nice pair of leathers for around the same price as the Bohn. The more I look, the more i am finding in my price range.
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...-leather-pants These are perforated. Are yours perforated @Omarel? Edit: I found a good review video |
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June 6th, 2016, 01:20 PM | #28 | |
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June 6th, 2016, 01:27 PM | #29 |
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Are they stretchy at the hips? I can fit them at the waist part but its the hips im worried about.
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June 6th, 2016, 01:35 PM | #30 | |
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But they still fit good. And they are a little stretchy. I would try them and aim for an exchange or refund in case they don't fit right. One of the most annoying things about ordering gear online is finding a good fit. I found this the case no matter what gear I ordered |
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June 6th, 2016, 01:36 PM | #31 | |
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Better than just pants, but not as good as leathers of course, they are a compromise. I have yet to have mine tested, and hopefully never will.
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June 6th, 2016, 02:32 PM | #32 |
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Why you want abrasion protection, not just impact.
"Woah, it's getting warm around the crotch area... whoo!"
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Re the knee armor... I'm a short guy and therefore have short legs relative to my waist, so I'm right there with you. This is why you also should wear proper riding boots. When I gear up I slide the lower legs up, then fasten my boots. This puts everything from the sole of my foot to the knee in the proper place. The thighs are a bit loose. Z, the stretchiness comes from elastic panels on the inside of the legs and at the crotch. That means you'll get stretch to accommodate the circumference of your thighs and lower leg, but not around the hips. The waist also has elastic and a velcro tab. Also note that these are designed to fit inside your boots, and are short and snug at the ankle for that reason. There is NO WAY they'll fit over your boots.
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