Loop a S1000rr

[Whiskey]

Link to original page on YouTube.

Ped runs through traffic & S1000rr pilot loops the bike to avoid hitting him.

As always the ped runs off after causing the accident

[Jiggles]

Shoulda used the rear brake

[lgk]

shoulda swerved...

[cuz]

Shoulda ran into him

[Redgeneral]

Doesn't that bike have ABS?

[Whiskey]

A)

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Shoulda used the rear brake

B)

Originally Posted by lgk

shoulda swerved...

C)

Originally Posted by cuz

Shoulda ran into him

I had a similar situation a bit over 2 years ago, I went on the brakes (front & some rear), I wasn't going to stop in time so I swerved, clipped a patch of tar on the road & lost traction.

C seems to be the safest option, had I gone straight through the 2 shitheads who knows if my shoulder would still be better at predicting rain than the met office. At least they would have absorbed a decent bit of energy before I hit the ground

[Jono]

Another BMW owner was first to respond. Haha.

Anywho, I would have hit the brakes then ran into that person.

[ninja250r81]

the front tyre got caught in the rail when the rider applied the brakes

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by Redgeneral

Doesn't that bike have ABS?

You can loop them even with ABS. In fact, I would bet it helped loop it so fast, rather than just skid.

[CZroe]

Originally Posted by csmith12

You can loop them even with ABS. In fact, I would bet it helped loop it so fast, rather than just skid.

Exactly. It looks like it maintained traction right up until it left the ground.

[Malicious Logic]

Wow.Guess that shows how powerful big bike brakes are. Would better braking technique have helped here? Or was it just one of those situations where it's either you hitting the ground or hitting them?

[Alex]

The ABS on the S1000RR has rear-wheel lift-off sensing, so what happened in that video isn't supposed to be possible. But - since it clearly did happen, there are a couple options:

- They didn't get the bike with ABS. It's standard for 2012, but has been optional prior
- The bike has ABS and DSC, but they were running the DSC in either Race or Slick mode, not necessarily a great idea on the street. Both Rain and Sport mode have rear wheel lift-off detection, which would have lessened the pressure on the front brake to keep the rear wheel closer to the ground and the bike upright.

Here's a description of the 4 modes:

1. Power Mode: Rain: Power is cut to 150 bhp, reduced torque, and the
throttle response is more gentle.
* The braking force is applied to both front and rear wheels (partially
integral brakes)
* Rear wheel ABS operates even when only the rear foot brake is used
* The system detects if the rear wheel is lifting
* Wheelie protection operates
* Reduces rear wheel spin
* Increased traction and stability even when the frictional coefficient
spikes suddenly

2. Power Mode: Sport (which is the default setting): Full power (193 at the \
crank, approx 183 rwhp) with a fast but smooth throttle response.
* The braking force is applied to both front and rear wheels (partially
integral brakes)
* Rear wheel ABS operates even when only the rear foot brake is used
* The system detects if the rear wheel is lifting
* Wheelie protection operates
* DTC is slower to intervene than in Rain Mode, so slight drifts are
possible when exiting corners

3. Power Mode: Race: Full power but instant throttle response.
* The braking force is applied to both front and rear wheels (partially
integral brakes)
* Rear wheel ABS operates even when only the rear foot brake is used
* No rear wheel lift detection
* Wheelie protection operates
* DTC even slower to intervene so longer drifts and brief wheelies are
possible when exiting corners

4. Power Mode: Slick (coding plug required to be inserted): Full power with
an aggressive and instant throttle response.
* The braking force is applied to both front and rear wheels (partially
integral brakes)
* ABS does not operate when only foot brake is used
* No rear wheel lift detection
* Wheelies allowed up to a lean angle of 23 degrees and for up to 5
seconds

[Sinister]

Originally Posted by cuz

Shoulda ran into him

[akima]

Poor rider. My first thought after seeing that video was: that's an amazingly powerful motorcycle, probably capable of braking, gripping to the road and accelerating well beyond most other road vehicles. That bike is probably best suited for operation by an amazingly experienced and skilled rider. I'm guessing the rider in the video was a noobie (like me) who would struggle to comfortably control a 125CC sports bike to near its limits let alone that 1000CC beast. He should upgrade to a ninjette for his next bike!

I think that some bikes can intensify the mistakes you make. Noobies make lots of mistakes so they should be careful what bike they get (if they're interested in self preservation!).

[Domagoj]

Originally Posted by Alex

The ABS on the S1000RR has rear-wheel lift-off sensing, so what happened in that video isn't supposed to be possible. But - since it clearly did happen, there are a couple options:

- They didn't get the bike with ABS. It's standard for 2012, but has been optional prior
- The bike has ABS and DSC, but they were running the DSC in either Race or Slick mode, not necessarily a great idea on the street. Both Rain and Sport mode have rear wheel lift-off detection, which would have lessened the pressure on the front brake to keep the rear wheel closer to the ground and the bike upright.

How do you get used to all those modes? I think they should have left it with just 2, all electronics on and all off. This must feel like riding 4 different bikes.

[krolinked]

Four bikes in one sounds like a good thing!

[nickjpass]

Can't really tell but I think that was russian. Poor audio quality.

Edit: So, it is russian (I can tell with better speakers). Whole video is just full of people saying who did that..why are you blocking the road etc. But the funny part was the driver said "I fell asleep" when he pulled up to the bike lmao.

[folky15]

Im kinda new to motorcycles, so maybe this is unreasonable, but would it potentially be better to have only 1 front brake caliper operational at low speeds?

It seems like having too much grip on the front brakes causes more problems than it prevents. I'm thinking something like a sensor that detects if at low speeds and low brake lever pressure, that only 1 of the brake calipers would be functional. Is that a crazy idea? maybe has some merit?

[Jiggles]

[cuz]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

[Jiggles]

Tell that to folky

[nickjpass]

Or you can just learn to brake?

[CZroe]

Originally Posted by folky15

Im kinda new to motorcycles, so maybe this is unreasonable, but would it potentially be better to have only 1 front brake caliper operational at low speeds?

It seems like having too much grip on the front brakes causes more problems than it prevents. I'm thinking something like a sensor that detects if at low speeds and low brake lever pressure, that only 1 of the brake calipers would be functional. Is that a crazy idea? maybe has some merit?

It would cause uneven rotor wear and there would have to be electronics between you and the other brake (not safe in the event of an electronics or logic failure).