Oil Filter Wrench

Jiggles · October 3rd, 2012, 07:56 PM

So I just tried to do an oil change on my 1000 which uses cartridge spin on filters like the 300, only, the stock one doesn't have a way to come off. You need an oil filter wrench in order to get the stock one off. The 300 also uses these spin ons right? Anyone want to check if they also require filter wrenches?

lgk · October 3rd, 2012, 08:08 PM

If its like a car you can use a rubber strap wrench.

Surferboy120 · October 3rd, 2012, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

So I just tried to do an oil change on my 1000 which uses cartridge spin on filters like the 300, only, the stock one doesn't have a way to come off. You need an oil filter wrench in order to get the stock one off. The 300 also uses these spin ons right? Anyone want to check if they also require filter wrenches?

I never really have to use an oil filter wrench but I have one of those plastic socket ones you use your ratchet with for my RSX and Toyota and it happens to fit the Ninja to.

Use a little more elbow. Its not good if its that tight.

Surferboy120 · October 3rd, 2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lgk

If its like a car you can use a rubber strap wrench.

I have two sizes of strap wrenches boy they are handy things to have around.

k-os · October 3rd, 2012, 08:13 PM

There's no reason to have to tighten an oil filter to that point. If you can't get it off and don't have any kind of wrench to get a hold on it just stab a screwdriver into it and loosen it that way. I had to do that on my dad's bike because whoever changed the oil last time really cranked down the filter. I couldn't even loosen it with the oil filter wrench I have.

Jiggles · October 3rd, 2012, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Surferboy120

Use a little more elbow. Its not good if its that tight.

Maybe I'm not being clear, I don't have a tool that fits this, you want me to do it by hand????

From the ground looking up view

From the front tire view

Quote:

Originally Posted by k-os

There's no reason to have to tighten an oil filter to that point. If you can't get it off and don't have any kind of wrench to get a hold on it just stab a screwdriver into it and loosen it that way. I had to do that on my dad's bike because whoever changed the oil last time really cranked down the filter. I couldn't even loosen it with the oil filter wrench I have.

Explain stabbing a screwdriver into, because to me that sounds like a terrible idea

Jiggles · October 3rd, 2012, 08:27 PM

My new filter has this nifty pifty bolt

Surferboy120 · October 3rd, 2012, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Maybe I'm not being clear, I don't have a tool that fits this, you want me to do it by hand????

From the ground looking up view

From the front tire view

Explain stabbing a screwdriver into, because to me that sounds like a terrible idea

I know what you are talking about and yes that very filter I unscrew by hand on my RSX and Tacoma and I am sure I will do it on my Ninja as well.

I have done the screw driver through the filter idea in the past when all else fails but it is messy. The oil filter is super thin so thats easy to do.

If you cant unscrew it by hand go to walmart and buy a cheap oil filter wrench. A lot of the socket types are plastic because it shouldnt take much effort to get the filter off. Of course there are heavy duty ones as well.

Some are plastic

Jiggles · October 3rd, 2012, 08:32 PM

I attempted it by hand and it wouldn't budge. Looked on a ninja 1000 forum and people said it seemed like a 500lb gorilla had tightened the oil filter on there. I'm guessing for the first oil change, by hand is not going to happen. For later oil changes I'll have the filters with the nut for ease of use.

I'm going to guess that the ninja 300 has the same type of oil filter on it and if its torqued on at the same rate that the 1000s are then its not going to be possible to do by hand. So, for the noobs, get an oil filter wrench if you don't have one

Surferboy120 · October 3rd, 2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

I attempted it by hand and it wouldn't budge. Looked on a ninja 1000 forum and people said it seemed like a 500lb gorilla had tightened the oil filter on there. I'm guessing for the first oil change, by hand is not going to happen. For later oil changes I'll have the filters with the nut for ease of use.

I'm going to guess that the ninja 300 has the same type of oil filter on it and if its torqued on at the same rate that the 1000s are then its not going to be possible to do by hand. So, for the noobs, get an oil filter wrench if you don't have one

Good luck with that little gorilla I hope all goes well.

lgk · October 4th, 2012, 04:33 AM

look like you got plenty of room after you put the bike on stands.

lgk · October 4th, 2012, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Surferboy120

I have two sizes of strap wrenches boy they are handy things to have around.

one of the best things harbor freight makes, lol.

csmith12 · October 4th, 2012, 04:38 AM

Jiggles, always buy a K&M filter for your track/track use bikes. Or at least check to make sure it has the nut at the end of the filter. It makes safety wiring much easier.

Jiggles · October 4th, 2012, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by csmith12

Jiggles, always buy a K&M filter for your track/track use bikes. Or at least check to make sure it has the nut at the end of the filter. It makes safety wiring much easier.

That's what I got

adouglas · October 4th, 2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

My new filter has this nifty pifty bolt

That's one very nervous-looking chihuahua.

dino74 · October 4th, 2012, 11:16 AM

Who needs a wrench? This is what my oil filter look like after I take them off...

Asspire · October 4th, 2012, 11:22 AM

Take screwdriver, stab filter, twist, remove screw driver and take off old filter. Install new filter finger tight then 1/4 turn.

Jiggles · October 4th, 2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by adouglas

That's one very nervous-looking chihuahua.

You must not know what a nervous chihuahua looks like. Besides shes only have so she isn't ugly like those disgusting full breeds.

Kevin2109 · October 4th, 2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dino74

Who needs a wrench? This is what my oil filter look like after I take them off...

+1 the stock filters suck ass, just use a screw driver and punk it through the upper side of the filter and rotate it off. Then only buy K&N after that and problem solved

CC Cowboy · October 4th, 2012, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dino74

Who needs a wrench? This is what my oil filter look like after I take them off...

I love the destroyed filter resting on the oil filter wrench.

Jiggles · October 4th, 2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin2109

+1 the stock filters suck ass, just use a screw driver and punk it through the upper side of the filter and rotate it off. Then only buy K&N after that and problem solved

My oil changes are messy enough without destroying an oil filter. Besides I want to do the oil change without taking the fairings off and I don't think there is enough room for this particular "method"

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

I love the destroyed filter resting on the oil filter wrench.

Right tool for the wrong job or wrong tool for the right job?

Surferboy120 · October 8th, 2012, 09:29 PM

I just did my first oil change on the 300 and went with my handy plastic oil filter socket from walmart to take mine off the easy way. Like you said Jiggles the factory sure likes to put those filters on tight.

JBinSD · November 5th, 2012, 11:56 AM

Anyone know part # for KnN? @ cyclegear now

DaveTheCanuck · November 6th, 2012, 07:20 PM

You need one of these ^

KELPHYN · November 7th, 2012, 12:24 AM

Try wearing a rubber glove, should let you grip a little better. Also if it it on that tight I would remove the fairing to remove it, just encase you/wrench slip. Don't want to risk breaking/cracking fairing. Have fun.

geeker · November 7th, 2012, 06:27 AM

I did the first oil change on my 300 last week and the filter was indeed installed by king kong. I went to O'Reilly Auto Parts to buy a socket wrench. It just slipped on every ridge and wouldn't budge. I ended up having to remove the lower right fairing and use filter pliers to get it loosened. Unfortunately for me, I purchased three Kawi filters from the dealer when I bought the bike.

I'm assuming when the mileage is right, T6 is just as good for the 300 as my new-gen?

GreenNinja · December 13th, 2012, 04:20 PM

I know this is an old thread but try investing in one of these and see if it helps you out. I bought one when it was on sale for $5 and this is what I use for my car.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02820523000P

geeker · December 13th, 2012, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenNinja

I know this is an old thread but try investing in one of these and see if it helps you out. I bought one when it was on sale for $5 and this is what I use for my car.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02820523000P

I've seen those on the shelf before, but never gave them much attention. I bought a Fram filter socket cap from Wal-Mart a couple weeks ago and it's a 1000x better than the plastic crap I bought at the auto parts store. Worked like a charm and it was only $3.24.

psych0hans · June 2nd, 2013, 07:06 AM

Will THIS do?

adouglas · June 2nd, 2013, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenNinja

I know this is an old thread but try investing in one of these and see if it helps you out. I bought one when it was on sale for $5 and this is what I use for my car.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02820523000P

I got the Harbor Freight version of that and it doesn't work worth crap. Slips.

I also picked up a filter wrench that looks like a giant pair of Vise Grips. Big jaws on locking pliers. It ROCKS and has yet to be defeated.

As often happens, on my GSXR the factory installed the oil filter tight enough that it defeated every wrench I had… fiber strap, metal strap and the useless three-fingered widget. Not this. It actually started to bend the can before the filter began to loosen. This tool handled it with aplomb. And it cost seven bucks.

Felipe the Ant · June 2nd, 2013, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

My oil changes are messy enough without destroying an oil filter. Besides I want to do the oil change without taking the fairings off and I don't think there is enough room for this particular "method"

There's plenty of room, you only need to spin it a little bit to loosen it and then you can take it off by hand. Takes 3 seconds, don't bother going out to get a tool, it looks like you'd have a hard time getting a filter wrench in there.

Wipe up with a rag after, and if you're really anal get some brake/carb cleaner

Quit being lazy, you'd be done by now

Jiggles · June 2nd, 2013, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felipe the Ant

There's plenty of room, you only need to spin it a little bit to loosen it and then you can take it off by hand. Takes 3 seconds, don't bother going out to get a tool, it looks like you'd have a hard time getting a filter wrench in there.

Wipe up with a rag after, and if you're really anal get some brake/carb cleaner

Quit being lazy, you'd be done by now

I was done like 3 months ago

Felipe the Ant · June 2nd, 2013, 02:57 PM

i blame the indian

adouglas · June 2nd, 2013, 03:39 PM

Depends on how tight the filter is.

You can twist with your hand til the cows come home and that filter isn't going ANYWHERE if it's on too tight… which it almost always is from the factory.

October 3rd, 2012, 07:56 PM	#1
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Oil Filter Wrench So I just tried to do an oil change on my 1000 which uses cartridge spin on filters like the 300, only, the stock one doesn't have a way to come off. You need an oil filter wrench in order to get the stock one off. The 300 also uses these spin ons right? Anyone want to check if they also require filter wrenches? __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

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lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	If its like a car you can use a rubber strap wrench. __________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700

October 3rd, 2012, 08:13 PM	#5
k-os ninjette.org sage Name: Andy Location: Sheboygan, WI Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 1988 Honda Hawk NT650, 1989 Honda Hawk NT650, 1997 GSXR750 Track Bike Posts: 890	There's no reason to have to tighten an oil filter to that point. If you can't get it off and don't have any kind of wrench to get a hold on it just stab a screwdriver into it and loosen it that way. I had to do that on my dad's bike because whoever changed the oil last time really cranked down the filter. I couldn't even loosen it with the oil filter wrench I have.
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October 3rd, 2012, 08:27 PM	#7
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	My new filter has this nifty pifty bolt __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 3rd, 2012, 08:32 PM	#9
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	I attempted it by hand and it wouldn't budge. Looked on a ninja 1000 forum and people said it seemed like a 500lb gorilla had tightened the oil filter on there. I'm guessing for the first oil change, by hand is not going to happen. For later oil changes I'll have the filters with the nut for ease of use. I'm going to guess that the ninja 300 has the same type of oil filter on it and if its torqued on at the same rate that the 1000s are then its not going to be possible to do by hand. So, for the noobs, get an oil filter wrench if you don't have one __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 4th, 2012, 04:33 AM	#11
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October 4th, 2012, 11:22 AM	#17
Asspire Fix It Till Ya Break It Name: Asspyre Location: T.Dot Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 08 250RRrrrr Posts: 623	Take screwdriver, stab filter, twist, remove screw driver and take off old filter. Install new filter finger tight then 1/4 turn.

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Surferboy120 Finding some curves.... Name: Thomas Location: Hurst,Texas Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 300 Ninja Posts: 268	I just did my first oil change on the 300 and went with my handy plastic oil filter socket from walmart to take mine off the easy way. Like you said Jiggles the factory sure likes to put those filters on tight.

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KELPHYN ninjette.org guru Name: Calvin Location: Quesnel, B.C Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R (sold), 2013 300SE Posts: 276	Try wearing a rubber glove, should let you grip a little better. Also if it it on that tight I would remove the fairing to remove it, just encase you/wrench slip. Don't want to risk breaking/cracking fairing. Have fun.

November 7th, 2012, 06:27 AM	#26
geeker ninjette.org guru Name: Richie Location: Arkansas Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2022 Honda CRF300L Rally, 2015 Ninja ZX6R 636, 2014 Ninja 1000, 2013 Ninja 300 (sold), 2011 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: 479	I did the first oil change on my 300 last week and the filter was indeed installed by king kong. I went to O'Reilly Auto Parts to buy a socket wrench. It just slipped on every ridge and wouldn't budge. I ended up having to remove the lower right fairing and use filter pliers to get it loosened. Unfortunately for me, I purchased three Kawi filters from the dealer when I bought the bike. I'm assuming when the mileage is right, T6 is just as good for the 300 as my new-gen?

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GreenNinja ninjette.org guru Name: I'm a ninja! Location: Stone Mtn Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 Posts: 453	I know this is an old thread but try investing in one of these and see if it helps you out. I bought one when it was on sale for $5 and this is what I use for my car. http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02820523000P

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