Debate on Lane-splitting: Good or Bad? - Page 3

Brian · December 31st, 2013, 03:39 PM

Anyone see this one? This guy is extremely fortunate to not have fell off his bike... woah.

Løckøut · December 31st, 2013, 05:19 PM

It says he was found at 100% fault?

How des the law work in California pertaining to this specific incident? I'm assuming the driver was spooked by the other motorcyclist and went towards the one recording; should he have slowed down and got behind the other splitter instead of going around the other side?

[Need to know in case I get pulled over for splitting. ' Born in Cali bro check my cert' ']

alex.s · December 31st, 2013, 05:36 PM

100% the other motorcyclists fault. road rage. stupid rider got pissed off and decided to brake check the car after splitting in front (probably cut off the bike earlier or something else stupid and meaningless) i have yelled at quite a few motorcyclists for doing this. its a great way to die. or cause someone else serious injury. it's pretty much the stupidest thing you could do. you need to realize that on a bike, you are not a ****ing car. you do not use your bike to block cars. i could show you a hundred videos of bikes going through cars, and you think its a good idea to use your bike to force someone else who is 99% not paying attention, to slow down in an instant. yes, both bikes were "at fault" since A) you don't pass on the right legally, and B) i think the bike technically rear ended him since there was only one lane and the car was in front of him when he hit him. and the car was trying to avoid an accident. even if he wasn't at fault insurance-wise he was at-fault reality wise, only you are responsible for keeping yourself from crashing. other motorcyclists are the biggest dangers on the road. do not be near danger. that guy looked like he was trying to stay with the other motorcyclist. when someone is being an obvious idiot, don't keep up to get cool footage of the moron. just let them crash away from you.

Løckøut · December 31st, 2013, 05:42 PM

Ah, I see now that he was brake-checking the car. I agree that it was the other cyclist's fault... Sucks he came out with an injury and [im assuming] a torn-up bike, plus a bill for the cager's repairs.

Motofool · December 31st, 2013, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Løckøut

Ah, I see now that he was brake-checking the car. I agree that it was the other cyclist's fault...

Just a case of:

cadd · September 21st, 2014, 07:17 PM

Not sure if this has been posted already....

Crazy bike handling skills. Crazy control. Note that he never forgets his blinkers. And most of all crazy big balls!

Link to original page on YouTube.

Hero Danny · September 21st, 2014, 07:47 PM

Nice, he does have skill.

Although in terms of lane splitting I think luck is the deciding factor..

MrAtom · September 21st, 2014, 08:33 PM

Didn't this guy post the video to his local police station saying "Catch me if you can!" and he eventually got arrested for it?

Jono · September 21st, 2014, 08:38 PM

I can't decide which is crazier.... his riding or that language he is speaking.

xorbe · September 21st, 2014, 08:41 PM

Ah, that guy. He hit a car head-on eventually, it's on youtube. He was fine, bike not so much.

cadd · September 21st, 2014, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

I can't decide which is crazier.... his riding or that language he is speaking.

I think he's in Brazil. So I'm assuming he's speaking Portuguese?

Trailerboy531 · September 21st, 2014, 10:32 PM

If you feel anything but disgust when watching this video then, in my opinion, you need to rethink your view point.

This guy is an idiot - plain and simple.

tfkrocks · September 22nd, 2014, 12:25 AM

That's called a death wish

Sirref · September 22nd, 2014, 12:54 AM

At first I was like, ah he's doing it right. The beeping is a nice touch and it's a parking lot anyway so you won't get a lot of people moving around, so long as he keeps riding at a pace that he can react to the cars in front of him popping out it's all good.

and then he goes and decides to up the speed excessively smh

Alex · September 22nd, 2014, 06:44 AM

/merged

BlownWideOpen · September 22nd, 2014, 06:53 AM

I only split if traffic is at a dead stop or crawling. And even then I'm going MAYBE 20 km/h.

alex.s · September 22nd, 2014, 07:24 AM

didn't that guy kill someone with his recklessness?

LittleRedNinjette · September 22nd, 2014, 08:38 AM

Dumb ass...

cadd · September 22nd, 2014, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlownWideOpen

I only split if traffic is at a dead stop or crawling. And even then I'm going MAYBE 20 km/h.

Same. I almost never split unless traffic is crawling at a stop and go pace. Which is less than 1% of the time for me. When I lived in NYC, it was a completely different story. But even then, I didn't split much. The most I'll do is filter up to the red light at a walking pace and be the first to go when it turns green. But that in itself is another risk (cars running the red).

eddiekay · September 22nd, 2014, 09:24 PM

The toll booth approaches....I had a very scary one.....I came between a tractor and a car...the car inched up before i completed the pass and he kinda wedged me in...I got close enough to the fuel tanks on the tractor so that the tank strap caught my boot calf...couldnt back up, couldnt go forward hooked to this fuel tank. Car inched over and i pulled my leg free. I didnt split for like a year after that.

allanoue · October 1st, 2014, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

didn't that guy kill someone with his recklessness?

yes he did when he was driving a car
reckless self centered idiot with skills

jenkem · October 1st, 2014, 11:46 PM

Once you get used to lane splitting it's almost impossible to not. The only time I don't is when I've got all the time in the world and just want to cruise a bit, maybe be a few minutes late to dinner with my girlfriend and her parents.

Rustitution · October 2nd, 2014, 06:10 AM

I'm on the fence I think in slow moving traffic it should be legalized I dont think that you should split when traffic is moving at speed. And if you split you should only be going 10mph faster then the rest of traffic. Where I live it is illegal and it is so tempting. I need to save up for that ticket before I actually do it.

BlownWideOpen · October 2nd, 2014, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jenkem

Once you get used to lane splitting it's almost impossible to not. The only time I don't is when I've got all the time in the world and just want to cruise a bit, maybe be a few minutes late to dinner with my girlfriend and her parents.

Hero Danny · October 2nd, 2014, 08:51 PM

Lane splitting should be completely legal, but only while going at a speed of 10mph or less.

Sirref · October 2nd, 2014, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hero Danny

Lane splitting should be completely legal, but only while going at a speed of 10mph or less.

how about within 15mph of the flow of traffic, it's dumb to fly by cars and it's also bad to pass too slowly so 10-15 faster than the cars you're passing is likely the safest speed, depending on the speed of traffic

Hero Danny · October 3rd, 2014, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirref

how about within 15mph of the flow of traffic, it's dumb to fly by cars and it's also bad to pass too slowly so 10-15 faster than the cars you're passing is likely the safest speed, depending on the speed of traffic

10 or 15, etc. as long as its legal id be happy

Ninja Bob · October 3rd, 2014, 06:29 AM

Yes, I lane split slow or stand-still traffic. Yes, it can be dangerous.

On that note; a few weeks ago I was riding into NYC and was debating splitting traffic was awful and it was a pretty tight squeeze. Had another ninjette zip by. I was like, eff this, if he can do it I can do it. Just followed his every movement. Some of the trickiest (and scariest) splitting I've ever done, but totally worth it.

Rustitution · October 3rd, 2014, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hero Danny

10 or 15, etc. as long as its legal id be happy

+1

Ninjinsky · October 3rd, 2014, 07:22 AM

Lane splitting where it has always been, like here in the uk is fine because car drivers are used to it.

The whole London dispatch rider scene exists on the back of lane splitting to cut through the traffic. The only problems in London come from foreign drivers who don't know our laws.

The problem US authorities would face would be a spike in lane split accidents after the laws were changed. You and I know that after 6 months it would normalize but opponents would surf that spike all the way to repeal of the liberation

iceknyght · October 3rd, 2014, 08:13 AM

I used to live in CA where it was legal and I loved it, especially when I was commuting. Now I live in CO, where it is not legal and it's hard *not* to do it! LOL! Traffic isn't as bad here, but there are still spots it would come in handy... Sadly, a lot of the people I saw splitting in CA were doing it above speeds that was safe... Traffic slowed from 65 to 45 and I'd see tons of bikes going through at 55 or higher! Which is why any time I bring up lane splitting to my cage friends, they hate the idea, because that's all they see, the a$$hats that don't split safely and use lane splitting how it was intended...

Sirref · October 3rd, 2014, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Bob

Yes, I lane split slow or stand-still traffic. Yes, it can be dangerous.

On that note; a few weeks ago I was riding into NYC and was debating splitting traffic was awful and it was a pretty tight squeeze. Had another ninjette zip by. I was like, eff this, if he can do it I can do it. Just followed his every movement. Some of the trickiest (and scariest) splitting I've ever done, but totally worth it.

his skills must've been raised by being a cyclist in nyc, them cyclists are insane there.

December 31st, 2013, 05:36 PM	#83
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	100% the other motorcyclists fault. road rage. stupid rider got pissed off and decided to brake check the car after splitting in front (probably cut off the bike earlier or something else stupid and meaningless) i have yelled at quite a few motorcyclists for doing this. its a great way to die. or cause someone else serious injury. it's pretty much the stupidest thing you could do. you need to realize that on a bike, you are not a ****ing car. you do not use your bike to block cars. i could show you a hundred videos of bikes going through cars, and you think its a good idea to use your bike to force someone else who is 99% not paying attention, to slow down in an instant. yes, both bikes were "at fault" since A) you don't pass on the right legally, and B) i think the bike technically rear ended him since there was only one lane and the car was in front of him when he hit him. and the car was trying to avoid an accident. even if he wasn't at fault insurance-wise he was at-fault reality wise, only you are responsible for keeping yourself from crashing. other motorcyclists are the biggest dangers on the road. do not be near danger. that guy looked like he was trying to stay with the other motorcyclist. when someone is being an obvious idiot, don't keep up to get cool footage of the moron. just let them crash away from you. __________________________________________________
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September 21st, 2014, 07:17 PM	#86
cadd cadd cadd cadd Name: Cadd Location: 41°21'13.1"N, 74°41'37.4"W Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): 300 Posts: A lot. MOTM - May '15	You think you're good at filtering? Think again. Not sure if this has been posted already.... Crazy bike handling skills. Crazy control. Note that he never forgets his blinkers. And most of all crazy big balls! Link to original page on YouTube.

September 21st, 2014, 07:47 PM	#87
Hero Danny Inline 4!!! Name: Danny Location: MA Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2008 CBR600rr, 1987 KLR 250 Posts: A lot.	Nice, he does have skill. Although in terms of lane splitting I think luck is the deciding factor.. __________________________________________________ Be careful. Remember you are invisible

September 21st, 2014, 10:32 PM	#92
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	If you feel anything but disgust when watching this video then, in my opinion, you need to rethink your view point. This guy is an idiot - plain and simple. __________________________________________________ CVMA #531

September 22nd, 2014, 12:25 AM	#93
tfkrocks ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rebecca Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 w/ ABS, 2014 NC700X, 2008 Ninja 250 (sold), 2002 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '18, Sep '13	That's called a death wish __________________________________________________ My Ninja 300

December 31st, 2013, 03:39 PM	#81
Brian ninjette.org sage Name: Brian Location: Boston MA Join Date: Nov 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08 250R Posts: 639	Anyone see this one? This guy is extremely fortunate to not have fell off his bike... woah.

December 31st, 2013, 05:19 PM	#82
Løckøut ninjette.org member Name: Josh Location: Edmond, OK Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250r Posts: 128	It says he was found at 100% fault? How des the law work in California pertaining to this specific incident? I'm assuming the driver was spooked by the other motorcyclist and went towards the one recording; should he have slowed down and got behind the other splitter instead of going around the other side? [Need to know in case I get pulled over for splitting. ' Born in Cali bro check my cert' ']

December 31st, 2013, 05:42 PM	#84
Løckøut ninjette.org member Name: Josh Location: Edmond, OK Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250r Posts: 128	Ah, I see now that he was brake-checking the car. I agree that it was the other cyclist's fault... Sucks he came out with an injury and [im assuming] a torn-up bike, plus a bill for the cager's repairs.

September 21st, 2014, 08:33 PM	#88
MrAtom . Name: . Location: . Join Date: Aug 2014 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot. MOTM - July '15	Didn't this guy post the video to his local police station saying "Catch me if you can!" and he eventually got arrested for it?

September 21st, 2014, 08:38 PM	#89
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	I can't decide which is crazier.... his riding or that language he is speaking.

September 21st, 2014, 08:41 PM	#90
xorbe ninjette.org guru Name: xorbe Location: Bay Area, CA Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): N650 (and others) Posts: 408	Ah, that guy. He hit a car head-on eventually, it's on youtube. He was fine, bike not so much.

September 22nd, 2014, 12:54 AM	#94
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September 22nd, 2014, 06:44 AM	#95
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September 22nd, 2014, 06:53 AM	#96
BlownWideOpen ninjette.org guru Name: Artie Location: Canada Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): Stuff Posts: 284	I only split if traffic is at a dead stop or crawling. And even then I'm going MAYBE 20 km/h. __________________________________________________ Paint side up, rubber side down!

September 22nd, 2014, 07:24 AM	#97
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	didn't that guy kill someone with his recklessness? __________________________________________________

September 22nd, 2014, 08:38 AM	#98
LittleRedNinjette Certified Troublemaker Name: Teri Location: Hamilton, NJ Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250r "Pikachu", 2017 Ninja 650 "Epona" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Aug '13, Aug '14, Feb '17	Dumb ass... __________________________________________________ Raven's Rejuvenation A bruise is a lesson... and each lesson makes us better...

September 22nd, 2014, 09:24 PM	#100
eddiekay ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: eddie Location: Lawnguylind Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 300, WeeStrom Posts: A lot.	The toll booth approaches....I had a very scary one.....I came between a tractor and a car...the car inched up before i completed the pass and he kinda wedged me in...I got close enough to the fuel tanks on the tractor so that the tank strap caught my boot calf...couldnt back up, couldnt go forward hooked to this fuel tank. Car inched over and i pulled my leg free. I didnt split for like a year after that.

October 1st, 2014, 11:46 PM	#102
jenkem ninjette.org member Name: really Location: california Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2007 ninja 250 Posts: 80	Once you get used to lane splitting it's almost impossible to not. The only time I don't is when I've got all the time in the world and just want to cruise a bit, maybe be a few minutes late to dinner with my girlfriend and her parents.

October 2nd, 2014, 06:10 AM	#103
Rustitution World Class Ninja Name: Rusty Location: West Chester PA Join Date: Sep 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Ninja 250, 96 VFR750, 79 Yamaha XS1100 Special Posts: 224	I'm on the fence I think in slow moving traffic it should be legalized I dont think that you should split when traffic is moving at speed. And if you split you should only be going 10mph faster then the rest of traffic. Where I live it is illegal and it is so tempting. I need to save up for that ticket before I actually do it. __________________________________________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the to arrive safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid across the line, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, shouting, GERONIMO!

October 2nd, 2014, 08:51 PM	#105
Hero Danny Inline 4!!! Name: Danny Location: MA Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2008 CBR600rr, 1987 KLR 250 Posts: A lot.	Lane splitting should be completely legal, but only while going at a speed of 10mph or less. __________________________________________________ Be careful. Remember you are invisible

October 3rd, 2014, 06:29 AM	#108
Ninja Bob Certified Slacker Name: Shawn Location: Cleveland Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Kawasaki Ninja 250R SE Posts: 232	Yes, I lane split slow or stand-still traffic. Yes, it can be dangerous. On that note; a few weeks ago I was riding into NYC and was debating splitting traffic was awful and it was a pretty tight squeeze. Had another ninjette zip by. I was like, eff this, if he can do it I can do it. Just followed his every movement. Some of the trickiest (and scariest) splitting I've ever done, but totally worth it. __________________________________________________ *Ninja Bob*

October 3rd, 2014, 07:22 AM	#110
Ninjinsky ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paul Location: UK Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250, Yamaha RS200 (classic) Posts: A lot.	Lane splitting where it has always been, like here in the uk is fine because car drivers are used to it. The whole London dispatch rider scene exists on the back of lane splitting to cut through the traffic. The only problems in London come from foreign drivers who don't know our laws. The problem US authorities would face would be a spike in lane split accidents after the laws were changed. You and I know that after 6 months it would normalize but opponents would surf that spike all the way to repeal of the liberation

October 3rd, 2014, 08:13 AM	#111
iceknyght Recalculating. . . Name: Jason Location: Colorado Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 250 (sold) '12 Ninja 650 Posts: 353	I used to live in CA where it was legal and I loved it, especially when I was commuting. Now I live in CO, where it is not legal and it's hard not to do it! LOL! Traffic isn't as bad here, but there are still spots it would come in handy... Sadly, a lot of the people I saw splitting in CA were doing it above speeds that was safe... Traffic slowed from 65 to 45 and I'd see tons of bikes going through at 55 or higher! Which is why any time I bring up lane splitting to my cage friends, they hate the idea, because that's all they see, the a$$hats that don't split safely and use lane splitting how it was intended... __________________________________________________ jasontracewell.com

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