NickJPass - Can't Get a Bike

[nickjpass]

Because his parents won't let him, because they're to scared of me getting rear ended, crashing into a pole etc. So, makes me sad My mom said she wouldn't be able to forgive herself if I got hurt. I guess I have to respect her decision. I am living under their roof.

Buuuuuuuttt (hehe), they said I can get a dirt bike. So, maybe I can get a KLX140?

I know, I know, I sound dumb. After almost a year of trying to get a bike, I can't. After constantly complaining, learning that half the time I'm not being made fun of, and building my patience, I can't get a bike! I'm sorry! I'm sorry!
Please don't hate me...

I'm sorry everyone I know I let you down

[LoD575]

Same crap happened to me as well back then. My mother was even against dirt bikes.
Moved out at 18 and bought a motorcycle.

Best thing you can do is respect her decision while living there.

[nickjpass]

She said would let me get that for the experience. All I would learn would be how to shift and throttle control...I guess that's something

[Ninja1]

Don't worry about it. I was in the same situation 20 years ago but I respected my parents decision and it was only now that I got my first bike at 37. My father passed away and my mother knows that I'm much wiser now (at least she thinks that )

Once you become more independent do your own thing but always seek your parents blessing no matter how old or independent you get

[Skippii]

How old are you?

[nickjpass]

Turned 16 in december skippi...how old are you!?!?!

[Jay72]

After all this wanting and thinking you are getting a bike, have you never put it past your parents? I kind of thought that would have been the first thing you would do, before getting your hopes up so much. Don't take that the wrong way Nick, but you just turned 16, I personally think you are best to learn how to drive before you drive a motorcycle anyways, that way you can learn the rules of the road and get used to what it is like in the asphalt jungle.
And if it makes you feel any better I am going to be 40, and my mom lives 2 hours from me and she still goes on and on about how she could never forgive herself if I get hurt and blah blah blah. Respect what they say, get your self a dirt bike and trust me you will learn WAY WAY more than just clutch and throttle control.

[Kstorm21]

Why not get a dual sport??? Looks off road but can be driven on the street.

[jdoucet93]

Originally Posted by nickjpass

Buuuuuuuttt (hehe), they said I can get a dirt bike. So, maybe I can get a KLX140?

I'm thinking you should maybe trick them and get a dual sport It'll look like a dirt bike. And then once you've proven to your parents that you can ride, you can take it out on the road.

[EthioKnight]

seems like you're a bit too ... meek. Where's that bubbling fountain of rage, rebellion and nonconformity that one would expect from a budding teen like you? ...jeez, teens these days are too soft
Anyway, I wish you luck bud. I guess I should be thanking my lucky stars for having parents that didn't raise hell when I had my ninjette delivered home (without any prior notice )...or perhaps they don't care as much for me as yours do for you (an issue that'll likely come up in a shrink's office when I'm in the midst of a midlife crisis ).

[Mountain Dew]

Get a KLX250S

[leed]

You're 16. You, like most of us, weren't born into a motorcycle star family. Enjoy your high school time while you're there, seriously. You've got plenty of time to ride on the road, and your mom is okay with a dirtbike. I'd say that's a pretty good deal! I wouldn't want my kid riding a motorcycle on the street at 16 probably not 18, and perhaps 21.

To add, there's a lot to be learned on a dirtbike. If you ride it to learn how to ride a street bike better, there's more there than if you were to just ride it to ride a dirtbike. (If that makes sense?) Cheer up! We'll still be here by the time you get a bike, I'm sure.

[CZroe]

Originally Posted by jdoucet93

I'm thinking you should maybe trick them and get a dual sport It'll look like a dirt bike. And then once you've proven to your parents that you can ride, you can take it out on the road.

Many states will require registration anyway (non-op registration if using on the track or not riding on the street) so it might be kinda hard to pull off. Also, KLX250 is more expensive than an EX250.

[nickjpass]

Originally Posted by jdoucet93

I'm thinking you should maybe trick them and get a dual sport It'll look like a dirt bike. And then once you've proven to your parents that you can ride, you can take it out on the road.

My dad used to ride bikes, he'll know lol

Originally Posted by Jay72

After all this wanting and thinking you are getting a bike, have you never put it past your parents? I kind of thought that would have been the first thing you would do, before getting your hopes up so much. Don't take that the wrong way Nick, but you just turned 16, I personally think you are best to learn how to drive before you drive a motorcycle anyways, that way you can learn the rules of the road and get used to what it is like in the asphalt jungle.
And if it makes you feel any better I am going to be 40, and my mom lives 2 hours from me and she still goes on and on about how she could never forgive herself if I get hurt and blah blah blah. Respect what they say, get your self a dirt bike and trust me you will learn WAY WAY more than just clutch and throttle control.

Don't completely agree, but I understand.

Originally Posted by Kstorm21

Why not get a dual sport??? Looks off road but can be driven on the street.

Can't ride on the street.

Originally Posted by EthioKnight

seems like you're a bit too ... meek. Where's that bubbling fountain of rage, rebellion and nonconformity that one would expect from a budding teen like you? ...jeez, teens these days are too soft
Anyway, I wish you luck bud. I guess I should be thanking my lucky stars for having parents that didn't raise hell when I had my ninjette delivered home (without any prior notice )...or perhaps they don't care as much for me as yours do for you (an issue that'll likely come up in a shrink's office when I'm in the midst of a midlife crisis ).

Trust me I'm pissed. My parents know (I won't go into details). I respect my parents, and don't want them to disown me.

[Jiggles]

Uh oh... Time to delete your ninjette account

[Kstorm21]

Originally Posted by Mountain Dew

Get a KLX250S

Just looked it up and noticed it has a digital gauge. I don't get why the 250's don't?? Maybe with the 2013 model?

[nickjpass]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Uh oh... Time to delete your ninjette account

No way! lol I want to stay...should I?

Also, forgot to mention. I told my parents I wanted a bike, and was getting one, months before I even joined here. Which is over a year and a half ago.

[Skippii]

Originally Posted by nickjpass

Turned 16 in december skippi...how old are you!?!?!

29. Got my first bike at 23 or so.

[Mountain Dew]

They've had digital gauges for a while.

[Kstorm21]

Originally Posted by Mountain Dew

They've had digital gauges for a while.

who's they?

[Mountain Dew]

Klx250s

[Skippii]

If I were you, I'd concentrate on having sex with the drama queen girl right now.

[nickjpass]

Are you calling me a drama queen!? xD

[Skippii]

Originally Posted by nickjpass

Are you calling me a drama queen!? xD

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showp...8&postcount=23

[nickjpass]

Skippi...that was probably like 200 posts ago! I wonder why I called her a drama queen I'm crazy

[Malicious Logic]

Sucks for you man. I agree that I thought you would've already ran it past your parents before getting your hopes up and doing all this planning.

[loz944]

I had the same problem when i was at collage 20 something years ago,
I thought i would be clever and get a bike and keep it at a friends house was fine till i had an accident and my parents asked why i was limping.

short of it was it turned out ok after a lot of tears from my mother they decided better let me bring it home so they know when i was riding.

hell my mother still hates me riding bikes now

your time will come .......you still got years ahead to ride

good luck

[drac]

Originally Posted by nickjpass

She said would let me get that for the experience. All I would learn would be how to shift and throttle control...I guess that's something

Firstly let me say that kinda blows......but you are 16 and living at home. You have to respect their rules...all part of growing up.

Now let me comment on the above quote... I have taught more than a couple people to ride and learning to use the clutch and learning throttle control are secondary. The first thing every new rider has to learn, and the most important thing is how to use the brakes. More specifically the front brake. For learning to ride, a dirt bike is ideal. Everyone I have taught starts out on one of my MX bikes with me riding on the back. I get them going and we practice slow stops then semi-panic stops. If you don't know what to do when things start getting a little too fast(and they will) then you have no business knowing how to get going in the first place.

Anyway that's my opinion on the matter. Ride safe, ride smart, have fun.

(-----> drac is now huddled in the corner waiting for everyone to yell at him about how wrong he is<-----)

[Outlander Systems]

I got my first ninjette 14 years ago when I was 17. It was a black 1998 EX250.

My dad and I went to pick it up, and my mom was absolutely furious. 14 years later, she still tells me how dangerous they are and to "be careful".

You'll eventually get one, dude. Just be patient.

[nickjpass]

Originally Posted by Malicious Logic

Sucks for you man. I agree that I thought you would've already ran it past your parents before getting your hopes up and doing all this planning.

Read the posts above. I already said they've known for a long time.

Originally Posted by drac

Firstly let me say that kinda blows......but you are 16 and living at home. You have to respect their rules...all part of growing up.

Now let me comment on the above quote... I have taught more than a couple people to ride and learning to use the clutch and learning throttle control are secondary. The first thing every new rider has to learn, and the most important thing is how to use the brakes. More specifically the front brake. For learning to ride, a dirt bike is ideal. Everyone I have taught starts out on one of my MX bikes with me riding on the back. I get them going and we practice slow stops then semi-panic stops. If you don't know what to do when things start getting a little too fast(and they will) then you have no business knowing how to get going in the first place.

Anyway that's my opinion on the matter. Ride safe, ride smart, have fun.

(-----> drac is now huddled in the corner waiting for everyone to yell at him about how wrong he is<-----)

I'll take this as a tip I'll make sure I practice before I do anything extreme.

Originally Posted by Outlander Systems

I got my first ninjette 14 years ago when I was 17. It was a black 1998 EX250.

My dad and I went to pick it up, and my mom was absolutely furious. 14 years later, she still tells me how dangerous they are and to "be careful".

You'll eventually get one, dude. Just be patient.

Thank outlander. It means a lot coming from you! I love your videos.

[choneofakind]

Get the dirt bike if that's all they'll let you get. As has been said, their house, their rules. Dirt bikes are great fun because they don't matter as much when they get dropped. Less plastic, and let's face it, even with the right gear, dirt is less scary to fall on than asphalt. Not to mention, they're light, and will teach you all sorts of things about riding that will transfer over perfectly to street riding.

Most important thing Nick, is to just have fun on whatever they'll allow you to have fun on. If it were me, I would keep bugging them about the ninja

[nickjpass]

Thanks chone. Means a lot coming from you too I joined a new forum...am I still welcome here.

[JeffM]

Nick, get the dirt bike. Way better than not riding at all.

When I was 16 I wanted a street bike really bad. My Mother was of the frame of mind that as long as I lived under her roof there was no way I was going to have a motorcycle (However, she did buy me a mini-bike earlier at age 10). My dream had to be put on hold for a while due to work, other interests, children, etc, etc, etc.

But I never let that dream die. Started riding street bikes at 49 and loving every minute of it.

Oh and stick around. I want to see your dirt bike when you get it.

[choneofakind]

Jeff's bike was a mid-life crisis!

Nick, definitely stay here with us! I like pictures of dirt bikes.

[akima]

Your situation doesn't sound ideal, but it is workable. You wont be there forever, so when you do leave you can get a street bike. In the mean time you've got the all go on a dirt bike... I'd take them up on that! Not quite sure on the logistics of getting the bike to the dirt, but they've agreed to it, so maybe they can help.

Originally Posted by nickjpass

No way! lol I want to stay...should I?

You shouldn't ever ask that question. Do what you want to do. It doesn't matter what other people think. If you let every person who doesn't get along with you define who you are and what you do, then your life will be really sh*t. The only person here who can force you to leave is Alex, and I haven't seen you even coming close to braking the TOS, so I doubt that would happen.

I hope you get a dirt bike and stick around. I want to try dirt riding at some point. We can exchange tips!

[Xer0-]

Street or dirt you should take some sort of safety course.

Msf DirtBike school

Any bike is better than none. and it will make your reactions second nature, so you can pay attention to traffic later when you do get on the road.

[choneofakind]

...not to mention, with a little money and some creativity, you can usually turn a dirt bike into a supermoto and make it street legal.

interesting link @Xer0- I might go check that out near me just so I can learn to ride dirt. Looks interesting!!

[csmith12]

As I remember, you said "You don't know what you have until it's gone." But there is a flip side to that. "You don't know what your missing." While this can be hard to swallow, based on your threads past and present, I feel your mature enough to handle yourself and the situation appropriately.

If they are gung-ho for you riding dirt. Then go 100% all in. I truly believe you will not come to regret the decision and in hindsight even thank your parents for their decision. The dirt is crazy fun and you can also graduate to riding on cart tracks to practice the very same techniques that will be needed on the street and in spirited riding. Just as many street riders I know that wish they had there 250 back, the same amount wish they had a tard to ride like a tool in the dirt and then put street wheels on it to take to the hard core twisties.

As a parent of 2 licensed drivers, I would strongly discourage my kids to get a bike as their first experience to the open road with other drivers. While I may have complete confidence in my kids and their ability to ride, I however do not have that same trust for others that share the road. Until the "experience" of reading, predicting & reacting is built, I would rather them cage it up for at least a short time.

Show your maturity and turn that pissed feeling into determination or anything else positive. Chin up! You got dis yo!

[JeffM]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Jeff's bike was a mid-life crisis!

[choneofakind]

Originally Posted by csmith12

As a parent of 2 licensed drivers, I would strongly discourage my kids to get a bike as their first experience to the open road with other drivers. While I may have complete confidence in my kids and their ability to ride, I however do not have that same trust for others that share the road. Until the "experience" of reading, predicting & reacting is built, I would rather them cage it up for at least a short time.

Show your maturity and turn that pissed feeling into determination or anything else positive. Chin up! You got dis yo!

I always forget this point! My buddy started out on his CBR at age 15 1/2 with his temps. He's a great rider. He learned from his older brother in their neighborhood when he was 13 or so. He's the exception to the rule, but when he started riding, he was a little too aggressive in traffic, and I relate that to the fact that he wasn't used to traffic yet.

I on the other hand, have always been on a bicycle, and was road biking long before I had my drivers license or ninja. Now I'm on a mountain bike, a car, and a 250, and still on the road, and I can honestly say that the mentality of riding a road bike and a motorcycle (making a point of being visible and knowing everything else on the road is bigger and more deadly than you initially thought) has made me a more responsible driver. My mom even noted that I had become more smooth and more thoughtful in my actions on the road after I gave her a lift somewhere when her car was in the shop last summer.

As always, good point of view for perspective Chris