Mines Rd 3/16

[rasta]

Finally got a video up from 2 weekends ago. Called Mines Road, awwwesome road around here. I love it because, although there are some surprise loose rocks in the middle of 1 or 2 curves, I have the WHOLE road to myself. Don't have to worry about punkass cagers cutting over the lane etc.

Check out my body position, how is it? I'm fairly sure I'm guilty of over-leaning every now and then, I think I've been overcompensating ever since I crashed

I'm considering switching to a helmet cam, videos get waaaay too shaky when it's underneath the headlight.

What production value, you get TWO camera angles! I even decided to break my rule, and add music. Dunno why?

Link to original page on YouTube.

[Alex]

Video is set to Private, @rasta.

[CC Cowboy]

Originally Posted by Alex

Video is set to Private, @rasta.

He's probably riding naked, again!

[Sirref]

once again, video is set to private
also I'll be judging against rojo's Isle of Mines TT 2-17-13 video once it's up

[rasta]

Well that's embarrassing...somebody ping me if it's still f'd

[CC Cowboy]

The back pack camera is useless.

[rasta]

I know my damn backpack is too big. It's ok I have a smaller one which I'll start using....all I carry is water anyway

[jeffb502]

Good preview for the CA/Western USA Ninjetter rally. See you there in May!

[iamjacob]

I'm sure I could search enough to find out without asking buuuuut...... What cameras are you using? I'm thinking of picking up a mobius and mounting it permanently under the headlight as a commuter/dash cam.

[rasta]

Originally Posted by iamjacob

I'm thinking of picking up a mobius and mounting it permanently under the headlight as a commuter/dash cam.

Precisely what I do. You can set the Mobius to auto record when it gets power and to overwrite old files once the microSD card fills, so you'll never have to worry about it until you really need it (which is hopefully never). As you can see, it can get very shaky on certain roads and high speeds. But that doesn't seem like a problem for what you're looking to do.

They have a case for it (Click for Review

[iamjacob]

Originally Posted by rasta

Precisely what I do.

I take it that they are both mobius cams then? The stats and video I've seen makes it pretty much a no brainer at $80 each compared to other cameras at anywhere from $300 to $400.

[rasta]

Originally Posted by iamjacob

I take it that they are both mobius cams then? The stats and video I've seen makes it pretty much a no brainer at $80 each compared to other cameras at anywhere from $300 to $400.

Oh sorry, no the back cam is Vivitar, cheapo thing from Walmart. Its video quality is pretty meh, but it was just $40. I agree with you though, Mobius is well worth the $80. Is a GoPro worth 10x the price, just to have a couple more features and a screen on the back? Maybe for some, but not for me

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by rasta

Oh sorry, no the back cam is Vivitar, cheapo thing from Walmart. Its video quality is pretty meh, but it was just $40. I agree with you though, Mobius is well worth the $80. Is a GoPro worth 10x the price, just to have a couple more features and a screen on the back? Maybe for some, but not for me

Dang those gopros are $800???? I got mine for a ****ing steal

[rasta]

God dammit, good point. I've admitted on more than one occasion that math isn't my strong suit

[subxero]

I am anything but an experienced rider but IMO I think you are a little to shifty shifty out of the turns. Sure when it is warranted and you need to set up quickly for the next turn in the opposite direction. But several times you have nothing coming up in the near future or maybe it is a turn in the same direction and before you finish exiting the turn you shift your butt/body back on the bike.

I would think you should stay off the bike longer in your turning position and allow the throttle to get the bike to right/stand itself up more before you jump around, wait till you are out of the turn completely before doing your shift this should keep the bike more planted and stable.

In the case of close consecutive alternating turns this window will be very small and require you to go from one side to the other more quickly.

Just my two cents, I am no racer or pro so it's possible I'm just making **** up

[allanoue]

What do you use to mount. My 808 had the shakes bad when I used normal Velcro but when I switched to 3m dual lock like what comes with EasyPass, vid got much more steady.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3M-CLEAR-DUA...item19e9d16d0d

[csmith12]

Looks like you had fun!

Couple of things and a question;

Get off the seat early and stay there.
Search this on youtube - "knee to knee" and watch part 1 and 2.

When should you get back on the bike?

[rasta]

Originally Posted by subxero

I am anything but an experienced rider but IMO I think you are a little to shifty shifty out of the turns. Sure when it is warranted and you need to set up quickly for the next turn in the opposite direction. But several times you have nothing coming up in the near future or maybe it is a turn in the same direction and before you finish exiting the turn you shift your butt/body back on the bike.

I would think you should stay off the bike longer in your turning position and allow the throttle to get the bike to right/stand itself up more before you jump around, wait till you are out of the turn completely before doing your shift this should keep the bike more planted and stable.

In the case of close consecutive alternating turns this window will be very small and require you to go from one side to the other more quickly.

Just my two cents, I am no racer or pro so it's possible I'm just making **** up

Originally Posted by csmith12

Looks like you had fun!

Couple of things and a question;

Get off the seat early and stay there.
Search this on youtube - "knee to knee" and watch part 1 and 2.

When should you get back on the bike?

I appreciate the input guys! Let me start by saying, I don't want to come off as defensive, because I wouldn't have posted this video if I wasn't looking for critiques. But, I found it difficult to perfectly match-up the two videos. I got them as close as I could, but I think they're off-timed ever so slightly. Just enough to make it seem like I get on/off the bike at the wrong times.

Originally Posted by allanoue

What do you use to mount. My 808 had the shakes bad when I used normal Velcro but when I switched to 3m double loop like what comes with EasyPass, vid got much more steady.

Cool, I'll definitely look into that

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by rasta

But, I found it difficult to perfectly match-up the two videos. I got them as close as I could, but I think they're off-timed ever so slightly. Just enough to make it seem like I get on/off the bike at the wrong times.

Np Wes, it's all for good fun and learning all around.

I didn't use both videos to see the timing of when you got of the seat. I only used the bottom little vid. How do I know you were late getting off the seat often? Because... if your turning and sliding your bum around at the same time, you're late. Not a big deal at the pace in the video, but will become more important as the pace starts to ratchet upward.

[CC Cowboy]

Originally Posted by csmith12

Looks like you had fun!

Couple of things and a question;

Get off the seat early and stay there.
Search this on youtube - "knee to knee" and watch part 1 and 2.

When should you get back on the bike?

They have great instruction.

[rasta]

Originally Posted by csmith12

Np Wes, it's all for good fun and learning all around.

I didn't use both videos to see the timing of when you got of the seat. I only used the bottom little vid. How do I know you were late getting off the seat often? Because... if your turning and sliding your bum around at the same time, you're late. Not a big deal at the pace in the video, but will become more important as the pace starts to ratchet upward.

Ok fair enough, I just wanted to make sure I clarified . I'll definitely check out the bigger version of the back cam when I get home later.

[subxero]

what csmith said, I still feel more often than not you are to quick to get your butt back on the seat just from watching the backpack cam alone

[rasta]

Originally Posted by csmith12

Looks like you had fun!

Couple of things and a question;

Get off the seat early and stay there.
Search this on youtube - "knee to knee" and watch part 1 and 2.

When should you get back on the bike?

Finally checked out those videos, both were pretty helpful. Losing stabilization while I moved my butt over is something I find myself doing quite often. Often times I'll my entry line will change because my bike moves ever so slightly as I moved my butt over.

And, do I get back on the bike at the end of the turn, once the bike is straightening?

[subxero]

Originally Posted by rasta

Finally checked out those videos, both were pretty helpful. Losing stabilization while I moved my butt over is something I find myself doing quite often. Often times I'll my entry line will change because my bike moves ever so slightly as I moved my butt over.

And, do I get back on the bike at the end of the turn, once the bike is straightening?

from what I understand, the time that you actually get back on the bike is determined more by what is coming up next and how soon.

If you just went through a left hander and there is another left hander coming up shortly after and it can not be treated like a double apex then you just stay off the bike to that side why get back on in this instance?

quick alternating turns would be completely different and there would be a very short window of when you should be moving from one side to another.

I think

[csmith12]

Link to original page on YouTube.

NOTE: For the later part of the video, there is a difference between some CSS coaches. Some push, some pull to initiate the pick up.

The question is answered early in the vid. Bike is nearly 100% upright and under throttle load. And @subxero has the exception on lock, if there isn't sufficient time between corners of the same turning direction, stay hanging off. Once you have this down, you can move on to the hip fick. The hip flick is a hard one to get down, but once you have it... the chicanes are more fun and a rider can get through them faster.

Goal is: Don't be lazy at the end of the turn.