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Yet another win for my bike
The latest issue of Cycle World just arrived and they have a comparo of the Ducati 899 Panigale, MV Agusta F3 800 and the Suzuki GSX-R750.
Despite not changing one bit since its 2011 refresh and despite not having ABS or traction control, the GSX-R won... again. Both of the Italian bikes sure are sexy... but that Suzuki is just plain great. Quote:
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March 1st, 2014, 12:18 PM | #2 |
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well if it's the bike drove the zx-7r out of production then it's bound to be a damned good bike, and it's only gotten better over time. I'd go so far as to say it's suzuki's best bike due to it's balance of power and usability without the added weight of a 1000. Especially when considering that you don't need a 1000 unless you're racing and the fact that it's a better street bike than a 600ss due to it's torque.
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March 1st, 2014, 02:37 PM | #3 |
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It's funny. Isn't it basically just the gsxr600 with moar cc's? Like literally isn't the only difference the engine? Or am I jUst crazy and believing internet garbage?
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March 1st, 2014, 03:06 PM | #4 |
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Pretty much. I think there are other differences but I really can't say what they are.
What makes it great is the whole package. 750cc is just a terrific mix of torque and power that's usable in the real world. AFAIK the real reason 600s have so prevalent is because of racing rules put in place years ago. Didn't Kawi actually make a 636 and a 600 at the same time for that very reason? And isn't that why the ZX-7 was discontinued?
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March 1st, 2014, 07:33 PM | #5 |
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zx7r was produced until 2003 then the racing rules changed to the use of 600/636 class which kawasaki wanted to race in (for a short time).
And fuel injection was used on the zx6r from 2003 |
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March 2nd, 2014, 08:46 AM | #6 |
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Was the 636 ever allowed in club racing? I know the new one is but I thought the old one wasn't and that was why they made a 600 alongside it which would mean that they would have gained nothing from switching to a 750 to a 636.
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March 2nd, 2014, 10:15 AM | #7 |
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You're correct...the 600 was made along side with the 636, to meet racing regulations that many clubs followed. I believe it was called the ZX-6RR.
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March 2nd, 2014, 10:20 AM | #8 |
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I guess club rules are more lax now than they were 10 years ago then. Do any racing orgs allow I3 675cc bikes into their 600cc classes?
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March 2nd, 2014, 10:40 AM | #9 |
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Yes. Since the I3's have less cylinders, they're allowed into the class with more displacement. Same thing for the Ducati's.
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March 3rd, 2014, 11:49 AM | #10 |
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Racing rules are also why everybody except Suzuki killed off their 750-class bikes. For quite a while the major manufacturers only made 600s and literbikes, with nothing in between.
Makes sense from a business standpoint (you have to make sportbikes that can be raced... but can you also support a sportbike that has no place on the grid?). However, it left consumers ill-served. I'm glad that the thinking is changing.
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March 3rd, 2014, 12:09 PM | #11 |
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Now if they'd just make something smaller without going all cheap lame suspension and flexy frame on us...
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March 3rd, 2014, 05:54 PM | #12 |
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Daytona 675
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March 3rd, 2014, 06:38 PM | #13 | |
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bargain bike if you compare the price too haha
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March 3rd, 2014, 07:52 PM | #14 |
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He has a 750...loollll
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March 3rd, 2014, 08:34 PM | #15 |
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March 3rd, 2014, 08:36 PM | #16 |
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Because I'm not jealous enough...don't need to be reminded. GAWD
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March 3rd, 2014, 08:38 PM | #17 |
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Dude you have a 636, you don't need to be that jealous.
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March 3rd, 2014, 08:43 PM | #18 |
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I have a 600 that is technically not mine, and the zx6r has been crashed many times...#firstworldproblems
I'm on the hunt for a crashed or old 250 to create a street fighter with
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March 3rd, 2014, 08:46 PM | #19 |
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ah ok, why a crashed ninjette though? They're fairly cheap as it is.
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March 3rd, 2014, 08:49 PM | #20 |
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Fairly cheap isn't dirt cheap
and you can't wreck a wrecked bike (shh I know you can...)
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March 3rd, 2014, 08:52 PM | #21 |
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one of my old bicycles was wrecked while it was parked. Just needs to be vandalized :'(
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March 3rd, 2014, 08:59 PM | #22 |
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NOOOO!!! Sorry to hear that...
and what i mean is that, if it was crashed already, I won't be worried about crashing it...good and bad thing I guess.
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March 3rd, 2014, 09:03 PM | #23 |
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happened a while ago, I recently got a lance armstrong replica bicycle as a hand me down from my older brother and I had 2 mountain bikes since. I bent the frame and front wheel on one by crashing it downhill, and my former housemate managed to eff up the other one somehow. just have to get a solid new mtb and I'm set for a looooong time in terms of 2 wheels.
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March 3rd, 2014, 10:48 PM | #24 |
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Translation (by Google) from a Test in Germany with the 3 Gixxer some time ago:
Conclusion: Both pilots were in the 3-hour race with the GSX-R 750 along best and drove faster than with the new thousand. The well-controlled, rich power delivery combined with the handling of the 600 make the middle of the three sisters to the prediction for amateur racers. The thousand is what professionals. Who wants to implement to enhance their performance, must be a tough nut to crack. The 600 has the hardest in this three-way battle: She does everything well, but loses due to the cubic capacity disadvantage, slightly the connection. |
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One of the things I loved about the Ninja 250 was that it LIKED being ridden hard. It's fun to really thrash a bike. I can't do that on the 750... For sure I go a lot faster, but it's more of an exercise in control than an attempt to push the bike. At any sane speed on a public road it's not even breathing hard. Anyone who's ever ridden a scooter knows what it's like to take a bike to the limit of what it can do... you pin the throttle and it never gets going fast enough to be interesting. The 250 is fast enough to pin it and have a good time, but you want just a little more. The 750 is so fast that you never get close. You reach the limits of safety long before the bike starts really working. The forthcoming KTM 390 sportbike might be just the ticket, but that photo that just got posted makes it look like it's got the seat height of a motard. F that.
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fortune favors the bold lol all this 750 talk is driving me crazy .. its snowing like hell here. and I cannot take it outt!!! NC here we come ... oh yeah 750 merica oh yeah
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Idk man, I think a 750 is overkill for me. I already hoon around on my 'lil 250. I think I'll wait until this new batch of small bikes comes out (KTM 390, Yami R3, etc) and see where it takes me. I'm quick for an average street rider, but I have so much more to learn before I step up to a bigger bike. I also need to see where life takes me in terms of job, family, location, opportunities, etc etc.
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March 4th, 2014, 08:51 AM | #28 |
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I just turned 55... needed to scratch that itch before I get too old and stiff.
This whole aging thing is vastly overrated.
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March 4th, 2014, 09:59 AM | #31 |
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The MV actually won the shootout i had read, they have the new 636 in there for kicks though. I forget which of the magazines it was, i get cycle world and another one.
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