Other stock mufflers work on 250?

Little Green Machine · November 17th, 2012, 06:42 PM

I have seen a lot of member pictures of their bikes, with, what looks like stock mufflers from other bikes, one even looked like a 650 muffler.
Question is, is there a other stock muffler that works with the 250R from another Kawasaki or other manufacturer and do you need to shim?

I was just thinking that I wanted to change the look of my bike, but not invest a ton of money in a custom slip on. I like the looks of the new 300 muffler, and the 2012 650 muffler, but could it be done?

Monkeytofu · November 17th, 2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Little Green Machine

I have seen a lot of member pictures of their bikes, with, what looks like stock mufflers from other bikes, one even looked like a 650 muffler.
Question is, is there a other stock muffler that works with the 250R from another Kawasaki or other manufacturer and do you need to shim?

I was just thinking that I wanted to change the look of my bike, but not invest a ton of money in a custom slip on. I like the looks of the new 300 muffler, and the 2012 650 muffler, but could it be done?

the biggest problem you'll have is finding a way to secure it to your bike. Exhaust pipe step downs and step ups are pretty common so you just need to find mufflers that have a tab you can easily secure if you don't want to weld/ modify it.

Little Green Machine · November 17th, 2012, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeytofu

the biggest problem you'll have is finding a way to secure it to your bike. Exhaust pipe step downs and step ups are pretty common so you just need to find mufflers that have a tab you can easily secure if you don't want to weld/ modify it.

Welding and modifying is something I am accustomed to anyways, I weld for a living, and fabrication is one of the job requirements, so thats not an issue.
So, as to the original question, could say a 650 muffler be put on a 250? What would need to be done,to limit the amount of exhaust pressure?

old3 · November 19th, 2012, 09:03 PM

The 2013 300 muffler bolts right on and looks a ton better. Just put mine on my son's 2012 250.

krolinked · November 19th, 2012, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by old3

The 2013 300 muffler bolts right on and looks a ton better. Just put mine on my son's 2012 250.

How was performance? and sound?

Any degradation in performance by doing a straight swap?

old3 · November 20th, 2012, 12:14 AM

No difference we could hear or feel, but it looks alot better.

MistahT · April 2nd, 2013, 11:21 AM

Got a pair of GSXR 1000 mufflers for our white pregen. I gotta sell the old 1977 GS500 so I can pay someone with welding skills to make it work though....

+

these

Bob2010 · April 2nd, 2013, 03:47 PM

Too much work IMHO just for another "stock" muffler

In regards to straight pipe , I ran the bike without the muffler on and it sounded like crap.

choneofakind · April 2nd, 2013, 04:07 PM

Straight pipe is a no-no. It just sounds shallow and metallic. No rumbling, just ninja 250 powered didgeridoo. More like didgeridon't

mgentz · April 2nd, 2013, 04:37 PM

Straight pipe will hurt your power even when jetted well. And its just obnoxious.

NevadaWolf · August 26th, 2013, 03:36 PM

Necrobump

If swapping from a stock 2012 pipe to the stock 300 pipe, does anything need to be done other than just bolt it on? I'm an engine idiot, so I don't know what terms to use to ask the question.

gantt · August 27th, 2013, 05:19 AM

The 300 canister fits right on but i couldn't line up my brackets from canister to pegs. I'm waiting on some 300 passenger pegs now. that should fix my problem. it doea look MUCH better than stock.

csmith12 · August 27th, 2013, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

Necrobump

If swapping from a stock 2012 pipe to the stock 300 pipe, does anything need to be done other than just bolt it on? I'm an engine idiot, so I don't know what terms to use to ask the question.

Already shimmed the carb needles? Although it may not be required, shimming wouldn't hurt things one bit. It takes longer to go find and buy the washers than to do the mod.

It's 100% reversible as well.

NevadaWolf · August 27th, 2013, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by csmith12

Already shimmed the carb needles? Although it may not be required, shimming wouldn't hurt things one bit. It takes longer to go find and buy the washers than to do the mod.

It's 100% reversible as well.

No, as far as I know, my bike is bone stock in the engine. I am clueless how that magic box works so have opted to leave it alone as she has enough power to do what I have been asking her to do.

But you don't think that will be required to go straight to a 300 canister? I know it just bolts on though I didn't know the bracket didn't line up.

csmith12 · August 27th, 2013, 07:59 AM

Nope, I don't think it will be required. Just a "what feels good thing".

NevadaWolf · August 27th, 2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by csmith12

Nope, I don't think it will be required. Just a "what feels good thing".

Awesome, thanks.

BRad704 · August 27th, 2013, 08:43 AM

As said, you don't "have" to do it, but once you do, you'll likely be glad you did.

Chris is totally right about the effort required to shim the needles. You aren't opening anything more than 2 covers over the carbs, so it's not like you are swap in a taller 3rd gear.

NevadaWolf · August 27th, 2013, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BRad704

As said, you don't "have" to do it, but once you do, you'll likely be glad you did.

Chris is totally right about the effort required to shim the needles. You aren't opening anything more than 2 covers over the carbs, so it's not like you are swap in a taller 3rd gear.

:chuckles: to give ya an idea of how much of an engine idiot I am, carbs are the stuff ya get with food.

I've skimmed the DIYs before just to get an idea of what everyone else was talking about, but still too advanced reading for me. Maybe one day, down the road, when I feel like it, maybe...

I was mostly checking to see if I could get the 300 canister and not be required to adjust anything since its a stock pipe. I read on other exhausts more work is involved so didn't want to go through that.

BRad704 · August 27th, 2013, 09:05 AM

I think you just need someone to walk you through it hands-on first. Don't think of it as scary engine-work, so much as "remove this bolt, remove this bolt, remove this cover... replace this cover, replace this bolt, replace this bolt".

NevadaWolf · August 27th, 2013, 09:23 AM

YES, I would totally go for that!! Wanna come over? I can get pizza and cookies and beverage of your choice.

BRad704 · August 27th, 2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

YES, I would totally go for that!! Wanna come over? I can get pizza and cookies and beverage of your choice.

Memphis to Nevada... Those better be some bad@$$ cookies!

November 17th, 2012, 06:42 PM	#1
Little Green Machine Love my kittehs! Name: Bill Location: San Tan Valley, AZ Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R SE Posts: 266	Other stock mufflers work on 250? I have seen a lot of member pictures of their bikes, with, what looks like stock mufflers from other bikes, one even looked like a 650 muffler. Question is, is there a other stock muffler that works with the 250R from another Kawasaki or other manufacturer and do you need to shim? I was just thinking that I wanted to change the look of my bike, but not invest a ton of money in a custom slip on. I like the looks of the new 300 muffler, and the 2012 650 muffler, but could it be done?

April 2nd, 2013, 11:21 AM	#7
MistahT ninjette.org member Name: Matthew Location: Maryland Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 FZ6R, 2006 Ninja 250, 1977 Suzuki GS550 Posts: 186	Got a pair of GSXR 1000 mufflers for our white pregen. I gotta sell the old 1977 GS500 so I can pay someone with welding skills to make it work though.... + these __________________________________________________ 2012 Yamaha FZ6R (mine) 2004 Kawasaki Ninja 250 (wife) 2003 Kawasaki Ninja 250 Street Fighter project

April 2nd, 2013, 03:47 PM	#8
Bob2010 ninjette.org sage Name: Bob Location: NY Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 2009 Ninja 250 Posts: 730	Too much work IMHO just for another "stock" muffler In regards to straight pipe , I ran the bike without the muffler on and it sounded like crap. __________________________________________________ 2010 Red Ninja 250 2009 Black Ninja 250 -If you ride like lightning,you're gonna crash like thunder-

August 26th, 2013, 03:36 PM	#11
NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	Necrobump If swapping from a stock 2012 pipe to the stock 300 pipe, does anything need to be done other than just bolt it on? I'm an engine idiot, so I don't know what terms to use to ask the question. __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

August 27th, 2013, 07:59 AM	#15
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Nope, I don't think it will be required. Just a "what feels good thing". __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

November 19th, 2012, 09:03 PM	#4
old3 ninjette.org sage Name: Jim Location: NJ Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 300, KTM EXC610SMR Posts: 913	The 2013 300 muffler bolts right on and looks a ton better. Just put mine on my son's 2012 250.

November 20th, 2012, 12:14 AM	#6
old3 ninjette.org sage Name: Jim Location: NJ Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 300, KTM EXC610SMR Posts: 913	No difference we could hear or feel, but it looks alot better.

April 2nd, 2013, 04:07 PM	#9
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Straight pipe is a no-no. It just sounds shallow and metallic. No rumbling, just ninja 250 powered didgeridoo. More like didgeridon't

April 2nd, 2013, 04:37 PM	#10
mgentz Board Member Name: ... Location: WI Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 250R (street), 250R (dirt) Posts: A lot.	Straight pipe will hurt your power even when jetted well. And its just obnoxious.

August 27th, 2013, 05:19 AM	#12
gantt ninjette.org sage Name: michael Location: Central Georgia Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2019 Ninja 400, Sold 2012 Ninja 650, Sold 2009 Ninja 250r, Sold 2007 DRZ400s Posts: 628	The 300 canister fits right on but i couldn't line up my brackets from canister to pegs. I'm waiting on some 300 passenger pegs now. that should fix my problem. it doea look MUCH better than stock.

August 27th, 2013, 08:43 AM	#17
BRad704 Big Dreams, Small Wallet Name: Brad Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Feb 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R (Sold), 93 VFR750F (In Pieces) Posts: 508	As said, you don't "have" to do it, but once you do, you'll likely be glad you did. Chris is totally right about the effort required to shim the needles. You aren't opening anything more than 2 covers over the carbs, so it's not like you are swap in a taller 3rd gear. __________________________________________________ ~BRad

August 27th, 2013, 09:05 AM	#19
BRad704 Big Dreams, Small Wallet Name: Brad Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Feb 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R (Sold), 93 VFR750F (In Pieces) Posts: 508	I think you just need someone to walk you through it hands-on first. Don't think of it as scary engine-work, so much as "remove this bolt, remove this bolt, remove this cover... replace this cover, replace this bolt, replace this bolt". __________________________________________________ ~BRad

August 27th, 2013, 09:23 AM	#20
NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	YES, I would totally go for that!! Wanna come over? I can get pizza and cookies and beverage of your choice. __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

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