Winter Wings & Windshields - Page 3

chrly · December 29th, 2014, 04:45 PM

How would you rate those Teri ?

NevadaWolf · December 29th, 2014, 04:52 PM

I'd give them an 8/10, very happy with some issues.

Aside from the brake modulator issue, the only other trouble I've had with them is in a heavy downpour. The rain ran down my arms and into the mitts, where my gloves just soaked up the pooled water

But I have used them in 20* temps and know that they keep that pocket of air "warm" compared to the wind chill from riding. Add in heated grips or something and it'd be perfect.

NevadaWolf · December 29th, 2014, 11:56 PM

I have plexiglass and a mock up. How do I cut the plastic with no power tools?

chrly · December 30th, 2014, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

I have plexiglass and a mock up. How do I cut the plastic with no power tools?

I started by scribing a straight line with a utility knife and straight edge then snapping it. That got it close then I used a bench grinder to trim it . At that point I shaped it with the heatBe careful that stuff is sharp and every edge will cut. Ypu might want to wear heavy gardening gloves or similar.

LittleRedNinjette · December 30th, 2014, 06:37 AM

flitecontrol · December 30th, 2014, 08:25 AM

You can also cut it with a fine bladed hand saw. A saw designed for cutting wood usually has large teeth that can rip pieces from the edge that's being cut. If you don't have a grinder, a file and sandpaper will smooth the edges.

NevadaWolf · December 30th, 2014, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrly

I started by scribing a straight line with a utility knife and straight edge then snapping it. That got it close then I used a bench grinder to trim it . At that point I shaped it with the heatBe careful that stuff is sharp and every edge will cut. Ypu might want to wear heavy gardening gloves or similar.

Hurm, I tried scoring it to half way through the sheet but it still broke crooked.

Ah well, got more to fiddle with. May have to go get a hand saw to work with it. Thought my little dremel would work with the plastic cutting wheel but the disk keeps getting stuck.

flitecontrol · December 30th, 2014, 03:52 PM

You can use a hacksaw blade. If the hacksaw frame gets in the way, just use the blade only and wear a glove or wrap the end of the blade with duct tape. The Dremel cutting wheel is probably sticking because it tends to melt the plastic rather than cut it.

Ghostt · December 30th, 2014, 10:23 PM

Sounds like a good excuse to buy some tools to me, personally pick up a Dremil and have at it, just take you time cutting it don't push the tool, let it do all the work.

As I have one original winter wing in my possession to use as my template, I was going to start making these out of Lexan instead of Plexiglass, but unfortunately life gets in the way hopefully here in a few weeks I'll start cranking some out.

If anyone needs, I can post a detailed pic, so other might make their own, just let me know.

Ghostt · December 30th, 2014, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrly

Well.. I am definitely not a professional but I did manage to get a couple of pieces cut from a 12x12 inch piece of 1/8 clear plexiglass and by playing with a propane torch* , I now have wings....Ugly but I surprised at how effective they are ..No rain test yet but they can only help .

* I highly advise against heating in the oven as it has been three days and the kitchen still stinks and yeah..I DID sightly overcook..

A full DIY write up would be Nice.

chrly · December 31st, 2014, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostt

A full DIY write up would be Nice.

My work techniques are embarrassingly crude...

Ghostt · December 31st, 2014, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrly

My work techniques are embarrassingly crude...

Don't be shy, look at the Wright brothers, and see where we at now, everything has to start somewhere.

Ghostt · December 31st, 2014, 10:31 AM

Idea: I might instead of Lexan use aluminum, more durable, can be finished, painted, polished, whatever, and easier to work with assuming the gauge I pick, I'm thinking 1/8" or 3/16" or what I have in the shop just laying around.

chrly · December 31st, 2014, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostt

Idea: I might instead of Lexan use aluminum, more durable, can be finished, painted, polished, whatever, and easier to work with assuming the gauge I pick, I'm thinking 1/8" or 3/16" or what I have in the shop just laying around.

Dont forget mirrors.. My wings cover half of each mirror but I can still see thru the plexiglas enough for it not to be a problem , .
I started with a 12 x 12 inch piece of 1/8 inch plexiglas . I cut it diagonally into two pieces. The main side measurements for mine were 10 1/2inches and 12 inches, with the bend at 8 inches and 8 1/2 on the longside . If you want to make those cuts, let them run long, you can then trim the top and outside to your preference. Hope this makes since..
Place the piece flat on a smooth surface and let the "bend" overhang the edge. Then use a heat gun or propane torch and keepit moving constantly until overhanging piece simply falls. It helps to run a few passes on the underside also but main concern is to keep the heat supply moving steadily..

I have tried to be as accurate as possible with the measurements but kinda hard as bends are rounded...After you do one tho the second is easy...

This would be the left side with your mirror mount holes at "A" .I did not mark them as it is easy to do by removing mirror and holding wing in place while you mark the holes.. I made the holes by heating a Phillips screwdriver, laying the piece on a board flat and and then melting thru the mark .. Safer than drilling..

********PLEASE BE AWARE THAT EDGES ARE SHARP AND HEAT SOURCES CAN CAUSE FIRES!!~***********

flitecontrol · December 31st, 2014, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrly

Dont forget mirrors.. My wings cover half of each mirror but I can still see thru the plexiglas enough for it not to be a problem , .
I started with a 12 x 12 inch piece of 1/8 inch plexiglas . I cut it diagonally into two pieces. The main side measurements for mine were 10 1/2inches and 12 inches, with the bend at 8 inches and 8 1/2 on the longside . If you want to make those cuts, let them run long, you can then trim the top and outside to your preference. Hope this makes since..
Place the piece flat on a smooth surface and let the "bend" overhang the edge. Then use a heat gun or propane torch and keepit moving constantly until overhanging piece simply falls. It helps to run a few passes on the underside also but main concern is to keep the heat supply moving steadily..

I have tried to be as accurate as possible with the measurements but kinda hard as bends are rounded...After you do one tho the second is easy...

This would be the left side with your mirror mount holes at "A" .I did not mark them as it is easy to do by removing mirror and holding wing in place while you mark the holes.. I made the holes by heating a Phillips screwdriver, laying the piece on a board flat and and then melting thru the mark .. Safer than drilling..

********PLEASE BE AWARE THAT EDGES ARE SHARP AND HEAT SOURCES CAN CAUSE FIRES!!~***********

Question for clarification. Did you begin with a 10 1/2" square piece and cut it diagonally, or are the dimensions shown on the drawing incorrect, or did you trim a few inches off the pieces once you cut them so the dimension shown are correct?

chrly · December 31st, 2014, 08:58 PM

I started with a 12 x 12 and after bending, I trimmed it down.

NevadaWolf · January 2nd, 2015, 11:15 PM

I'm not calling this a finished product, more "proof of concept", but hey, I have wings!

Ghostt · January 3rd, 2015, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

I'm not calling this a finished product, more "proof of concept", but hey, I have wings!

Woah!!!!! Now that is a set of wings!!!, looking good.

N-m · January 3rd, 2015, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

Hurm, I tried scoring it to half way through the sheet but it still broke crooked.

Ah well, got more to fiddle with. May have to go get a hand saw to work with it. Thought my little dremel would work with the plastic cutting wheel but the disk keeps getting stuck.

Score the material on both sides, as deep as possible. I have wondered if a brake using a straight edge as a guide would yield better results?

NevadaWolf · January 3rd, 2015, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N-m

Score the material on both sides, as deep as possible. I have wondered if a brake using a straight edge as a guide would yield better results?

I did with a boxcutter and it still failed. Got my hands on a proper scorer (?) and snapped quickly and easily. Right tool for the job!

N-m · January 3rd, 2015, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

I did with a boxcutter and it still failed. Got my hands on a proper scorer (?) and snapped quickly and easily. Right tool for the job!

Please post link to that tool.

Ghostt · January 3rd, 2015, 04:36 PM

Here you go

NevadaWolf · January 3rd, 2015, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N-m

Please post link to that tool.

Not this but like this. Looks like an xacto knofe with a hook.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000BZ...=AC_SX200_QL40

N-m · January 3rd, 2015, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

Not this but like this. Looks like an xacto knofe with a hook.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000BZ...=AC_SX200_QL40

I have used those and had same results. Sometimes great, sometimes not.

NevadaWolf · January 3rd, 2015, 08:59 PM

First 200 mile review - they work.

Held up under speed, including 75 MPH on I-80, including the wake behind semis and RVs. Slight vibration causing a bit of rubbing on the upper fairing so I'll probably add in a bit of foam to protect the fairing.

Blocked the wind so while my hands did get cold (it was around 27* tonight), my fingers weren't biting cold like my toes ended up getting. I believe these, combined with the handlebar mitts, should make my hands happy on cold nights.

@Old Guy on a '08 mentioned lower fairing wings, so going to play with my left over pieces to see if I can create a wind pocket for my feet.

Ghostt · January 3rd, 2015, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

First 200 mile review - they work.

Held up under speed, including 75 MPH on I-80, including the wake behind semis and RVs. Slight vibration causing a bit of rubbing on the upper fairing so I'll probably add in a bit of foam to protect the fairing.

Blocked the wind so while my hands did get cold (it was around 27* tonight), my fingers weren't biting cold like my toes ended up getting. I believe these, combined with the handlebar mitts, should make my hands happy on cold nights.

@Old Guy on a '08 mentioned lower fairing wings, so going to play with my left over pieces to see if I can create a wind pocket for my feet.

If I may personally suggest, and recommend heated grips, once you've tried them, you'll never ride without them again.

NevadaWolf · January 3rd, 2015, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostt

If I may personally suggest, and recommend heated grips, once you've tried them, you'll never ride without them again.

Perhaps, but any spare power my bike has is already earmarked for another upgrade

http://ledrider.com/shop/?model_numb...anufacturer=18

Ghostt · January 3rd, 2015, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

Perhaps, but any spare power my bike has is already earmarked for another upgrade

http://ledrider.com/shop/?model_numb...anufacturer=18

They don't use that much power that the bike can't spare under 50w maximum draw. I run them on mine with absolutely no negative effects.

http://oxford-products.com/us/produc...ted-Grips.html

NevadaWolf · January 3rd, 2015, 11:48 PM

My heated jacket takes up everything the bike has left over at the moment. Nothing left unless I improve the system.

Ghostt · January 4th, 2015, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

My heated jacket takes up everything the bike has left over at the moment. Nothing left unless I improve the system.

Have you converted all lighting the CREE LEDs, and LEDs bulbs, including the headlight to either a CREE LED or HID? And upgraded to a MOSFET R/R ? As these are the only things you can do to gain more wattage back?

As far as that LED Rider stuff, save your money, get your buIbs from eBay, and the headlight go to DDMTUNING.COM for the HID, or LED bulb, or just order them all from them.

NevadaWolf · January 4th, 2015, 11:28 AM

Nope, just getting this.

http://www.electrosport.com/street-b...nja-87-07.html

flitecontrol · January 4th, 2015, 12:00 PM

I recommend Tim Parrott's stator rebuild service. Send him an old stator and he will rebuild it to better than OEM specs for a fraction of what a new one costs, and better quality than electrosport. He uses top quality materials and it shows. The stators he rebuilt for the VN750 outperform the OEM Kawasaki stators.

N-m · January 19th, 2015, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flitecontrol

I recommend Tim Parrott's stator rebuild service. Send him an old stator and he will rebuild it to better than OEM specs for a fraction of what a new one costs, and better quality than electrosport. He uses top quality materials and it shows. The stators he rebuilt for the VN750 outperform the OEM Kawasaki stators.

Can you post about this or link us to a post?

N-m · January 19th, 2015, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

First 200 mile review - they work.

Held up under speed, including 75 MPH on I-80, including the wake behind semis and RVs. Slight vibration causing a bit of rubbing on the upper fairing so I'll probably add in a bit of foam to protect the fairing.

Blocked the wind so while my hands did get cold (it was around 27* tonight), my fingers weren't biting cold like my toes ended up getting. I believe these, combined with the handlebar mitts, should make my hands happy on cold nights.

@Old Guy on a '08 mentioned lower fairing wings, so going to play with my left over pieces to see if I can create a wind pocket for my feet.

I have my windscreen mounted with a heavy rubber gasket and a Chicago style nut made for the gaskets. These work great. I wonder if a similar set up would help.

flitecontrol · January 19th, 2015, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N-m

Can you post about this or link us to a post?

Glad to. http://www.tpe-usa.com/

NevadaWolf · January 26th, 2015, 11:45 AM

Well sadly, though I thought it would happen, when I laid my bike down to have someone help teach me to pick it back up - the wings broke.

I love the idea and concept, my execution of the design however needed a lot of work.

Kestrel · February 6th, 2016, 08:04 AM

Bit of a thread bump, but it's cold! Purchased some winter gloves as a cold weather alternative to my Helimots, but the bulk is a little too much for me... So, I'd like to fabricate some winter wings for my '02 250.

Cutting and scoring isn't difficult, but what did all of you guys use to cut the holes in the plexiglass/lexan? I know cutting that stuff can be tricky, and that seems to be a pretty sizable hole, too.

Also... If anyone has a spare set lying around for the older bikes, let me know and perhaps I can pick it up from you instead.

Ghostt · February 6th, 2016, 08:08 AM

I have the template if your interested, I used a new drill bit, and didn't force it, just let it do all the work.

Also lexan is better than plexiglass.

Kestrel · February 6th, 2016, 08:22 AM

Template would be great. What size bit? Does this require a press, or could it feasibly be done with a hand drill?

Ghostt · February 6th, 2016, 11:07 AM

Took some detailed pictures, the grid paper is 1cm scaled, I posted the pictures here:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1006527...CO-4lsGr2MevBA

If you need anything else please let me know.

In case the link doesn't work, here's the pictures

December 29th, 2014, 04:45 PM	#81
chrly ninjette.org member Name: Charley Location: Northern California Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Kawasaki EX300 , 1999 Kawasaki ZRX1200. Posts: 164	How would you rate those Teri ? __________________________________________________ IBA # 59523

December 29th, 2014, 04:52 PM	#82
NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	I'd give them an 8/10, very happy with some issues. Aside from the brake modulator issue, the only other trouble I've had with them is in a heavy downpour. The rain ran down my arms and into the mitts, where my gloves just soaked up the pooled water But I have used them in 20* temps and know that they keep that pocket of air "warm" compared to the wind chill from riding. Add in heated grips or something and it'd be perfect. __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

December 30th, 2014, 06:37 AM	#85
LittleRedNinjette Certified Troublemaker Name: Teri Location: Hamilton, NJ Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250r "Pikachu", 2017 Ninja 650 "Epona" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Aug '13, Aug '14, Feb '17	__________________________________________________ Raven's Rejuvenation A bruise is a lesson... and each lesson makes us better...

December 30th, 2014, 08:25 AM	#86
flitecontrol ninjette.org guru Name: Lee Location: Monroe, LA Join Date: Feb 2014 Motorcycle(s): Rebel 250s, Ninja 250s VN750s (currently nine total) Posts: 465	You can also cut it with a fine bladed hand saw. A saw designed for cutting wood usually has large teeth that can rip pieces from the edge that's being cut. If you don't have a grinder, a file and sandpaper will smooth the edges. __________________________________________________ Profanity is the weapon of the witless.

December 30th, 2014, 03:52 PM	#88
flitecontrol ninjette.org guru Name: Lee Location: Monroe, LA Join Date: Feb 2014 Motorcycle(s): Rebel 250s, Ninja 250s VN750s (currently nine total) Posts: 465	You can use a hacksaw blade. If the hacksaw frame gets in the way, just use the blade only and wear a glove or wrap the end of the blade with duct tape. The Dremel cutting wheel is probably sticking because it tends to melt the plastic rather than cut it. __________________________________________________ Profanity is the weapon of the witless.

December 30th, 2014, 10:23 PM	#89
Ghostt in your machine Name: Scott Location: Summer Shade, Ky. Join Date: Oct 2014 Motorcycle(s): 98 Ninja 250/F12 aka ZX-2R "SERENITY", 91 Ninja 500/A5 aka ZX-5R "Phoenix", 84 Honda GL1200A "SIREN" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 25 MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15	Sounds like a good excuse to buy some tools to me, personally pick up a Dremil and have at it, just take you time cutting it don't push the tool, let it do all the work. As I have one original winter wing in my possession to use as my template, I was going to start making these out of Lexan instead of Plexiglass, but unfortunately life gets in the way hopefully here in a few weeks I'll start cranking some out. If anyone needs, I can post a detailed pic, so other might make their own, just let me know. __________________________________________________ *violente et ignorantia* ZX-2R BLOG *Twitter and Instagram = Ghostt_Scott* *I'm not here to change your mind, just to inform.*

December 31st, 2014, 10:31 AM	#93
Ghostt in your machine Name: Scott Location: Summer Shade, Ky. Join Date: Oct 2014 Motorcycle(s): 98 Ninja 250/F12 aka ZX-2R "SERENITY", 91 Ninja 500/A5 aka ZX-5R "Phoenix", 84 Honda GL1200A "SIREN" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 25 MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15	Idea: I might instead of Lexan use aluminum, more durable, can be finished, painted, polished, whatever, and easier to work with assuming the gauge I pick, I'm thinking 1/8" or 3/16" or what I have in the shop just laying around. __________________________________________________ *violente et ignorantia* ZX-2R BLOG *Twitter and Instagram = Ghostt_Scott* *I'm not here to change your mind, just to inform.*

December 31st, 2014, 08:58 PM	#96
chrly ninjette.org member Name: Charley Location: Northern California Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Kawasaki EX300 , 1999 Kawasaki ZRX1200. Posts: 164	I started with a 12 x 12 and after bending, I trimmed it down. __________________________________________________ IBA # 59523

January 3rd, 2015, 08:59 PM	#105
NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	First 200 mile review - they work. Held up under speed, including 75 MPH on I-80, including the wake behind semis and RVs. Slight vibration causing a bit of rubbing on the upper fairing so I'll probably add in a bit of foam to protect the fairing. Blocked the wind so while my hands did get cold (it was around 27* tonight), my fingers weren't biting cold like my toes ended up getting. I believe these, combined with the handlebar mitts, should make my hands happy on cold nights. @Old Guy on a '08 mentioned lower fairing wings, so going to play with my left over pieces to see if I can create a wind pocket for my feet. __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

January 3rd, 2015, 11:48 PM	#109
NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	My heated jacket takes up everything the bike has left over at the moment. Nothing left unless I improve the system. __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

January 4th, 2015, 11:28 AM	#111
NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	Nope, just getting this. http://www.electrosport.com/street-b...nja-87-07.html __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

January 4th, 2015, 12:00 PM	#112
flitecontrol ninjette.org guru Name: Lee Location: Monroe, LA Join Date: Feb 2014 Motorcycle(s): Rebel 250s, Ninja 250s VN750s (currently nine total) Posts: 465	I recommend Tim Parrott's stator rebuild service. Send him an old stator and he will rebuild it to better than OEM specs for a fraction of what a new one costs, and better quality than electrosport. He uses top quality materials and it shows. The stators he rebuilt for the VN750 outperform the OEM Kawasaki stators. __________________________________________________ Profanity is the weapon of the witless.

January 26th, 2015, 11:45 AM	#116
NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	Well sadly, though I thought it would happen, when I laid my bike down to have someone help teach me to pick it back up - the wings broke. I love the idea and concept, my execution of the design however needed a lot of work. __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

February 6th, 2016, 08:04 AM	#117
Kestrel ninjette.org member Name: Patrick Location: NC Join Date: Nov 2015 Motorcycle(s): DR350, Ninja 250 Posts: 69	Bit of a thread bump, but it's cold! Purchased some winter gloves as a cold weather alternative to my Helimots, but the bulk is a little too much for me... So, I'd like to fabricate some winter wings for my '02 250. Cutting and scoring isn't difficult, but what did all of you guys use to cut the holes in the plexiglass/lexan? I know cutting that stuff can be tricky, and that seems to be a pretty sizable hole, too. Also... If anyone has a spare set lying around for the older bikes, let me know and perhaps I can pick it up from you instead.

February 6th, 2016, 08:08 AM	#118
Ghostt in your machine Name: Scott Location: Summer Shade, Ky. Join Date: Oct 2014 Motorcycle(s): 98 Ninja 250/F12 aka ZX-2R "SERENITY", 91 Ninja 500/A5 aka ZX-5R "Phoenix", 84 Honda GL1200A "SIREN" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 25 MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15	I have the template if your interested, I used a new drill bit, and didn't force it, just let it do all the work. Also lexan is better than plexiglass. __________________________________________________ *violente et ignorantia* ZX-2R BLOG *Twitter and Instagram = Ghostt_Scott* *I'm not here to change your mind, just to inform.*

February 6th, 2016, 08:22 AM	#119
Kestrel ninjette.org member Name: Patrick Location: NC Join Date: Nov 2015 Motorcycle(s): DR350, Ninja 250 Posts: 69	Template would be great. What size bit? Does this require a press, or could it feasibly be done with a hand drill?

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