A Ninjette Lowside

dino74 · December 8th, 2011, 06:00 PM

Don't know who this is but it looks like Palomar (Socal)

94fiveohvert · December 8th, 2011, 07:49 PM

poor two fiddy.

Snowy · December 8th, 2011, 08:07 PM

Yea I'm always afraid of doing that, I ride like a grandpa around some corners in my area.
poor 250 but at least your ok!

Cazper · December 8th, 2011, 08:39 PM

I've ridden that area before... the gas station they were stopped at (unless I'm somehow mistaken) is at the far end of the small town of Julian and that part of the road is actually going away from the direction of Palomar... it's 78E (Banner Grade)... a really nice little stretch of asphalt

choneofakind · December 8th, 2011, 09:33 PM

that person massively didn't turn hard enough through that turn. They went WAY wide, and then dumped the bike.

saxnbass · December 8th, 2011, 09:34 PM

andylawcc · December 8th, 2011, 09:56 PM

women keeping it real: 4:05 minute to show a 15 second lowside. effing tease.

Jiggles · December 8th, 2011, 11:03 PM

Why didn't she try to turn?

cuong-nutz · December 9th, 2011, 12:44 AM

Looks like target fixation to me. She doesn't look through the turn thus going wide.

Jinx250 · December 9th, 2011, 08:20 AM

Even a big heavy cruiser could have made that curve. She needs to work on her transitions. She leaned the bike in hte right direction but it looks like she got freaked at how close the next corner was and fixated on the wall. Good example of "You go where you look." Just like that scooter video.

nickjpass · December 9th, 2011, 05:35 PM

At least she didn't hit the wall.

Heed · December 9th, 2011, 10:58 PM

for some reason i dont think you should be riding a 600 if you forget to put the kickstand up

nickjpass · December 9th, 2011, 11:12 PM

It's not that big of a deal. If you're routine is broken, that's when you usually forget stuff. If you forget a glove in your locker, does that mean you should wear gloves anymore?

akima · December 11th, 2011, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuong-nutz

Looks like target fixation to me. She doesn't look through the turn thus going wide.

That's how I crashed

I know better now though.

akima · April 16th, 2012, 10:51 AM

Skip forward 2 mins if you want to jump to the lowside.

Link to original page on YouTube.

She made the comment
"[I] Added lean instead of press then lost it..."

What do you think she meant?

Mulholland · April 16th, 2012, 11:22 AM

Meaning she leaned instead of trying to countersteer and went wide? I think perhaps countersteer is what she means by "press"

Jiggles · April 16th, 2012, 11:26 AM

Why didn't she just turn?

akima · April 16th, 2012, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mulholland

Meaning she leaned instead of trying to countersteer and went wide? I think perhaps countersteer is what she means by "press"

Ah! That kinda makes sense.

etiainen · April 16th, 2012, 11:30 AM

I think that the shadow messed up her judgement of the curve. Then it was too late and she didn't correct with countersteering fast enough.

greg737 · April 16th, 2012, 11:42 AM

Never really got the turn properly started before she left the road. It was like her mind was on something else at that point.

choneofakind · April 16th, 2012, 12:36 PM

The shadow threw her off initially.

When she started going wide, you can see her target fixate on the edge of the road, and when she gets to the gravel, she eats it and goes down.

She might have entered that a little fast, but it was not out of the realm of what the bike can handle, as seen by the previous turns in that video. I think she just got thrown off by the shadows and lost concentration. I really think if she hadn't been distracted, more pressing on the inside bar, and more hanging off (which I didn't get the feeling she was doing much in the earlier turns) would have helped her negotiate that turn.

Lesson from this video: slow in, get your body positioning right, THEN keep focused through the turn, and fast out. If it's been a long day of riding, maybe take it easy through the next few turns and take a water/snack break when possible.

Another lesson: if you hit a turn too and end up going off the road for whatever reason, stand the bike up and slow down as rapidly as road conditions will allow. It's better to hit gravel upright at 10mph than leaned over at 30mph.

massacremasses · April 16th, 2012, 12:43 PM

pretty sure Ive seen this...

dino74 · April 16th, 2012, 12:44 PM

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=92441

akima, you were the last one to post on that thread LOL

Jono · April 16th, 2012, 01:19 PM

Hahaha. Silly squirrel.

Kevin2109 · April 16th, 2012, 01:49 PM

What a noob

Should have been on a 600

massacremasses · April 16th, 2012, 01:59 PM

@akima fail! lol

cuz · April 16th, 2012, 02:10 PM

same thing happened to me but around 75ish

Felipe the Ant · April 16th, 2012, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Why didn't she just turn?

That's what I said too

lgk · April 16th, 2012, 02:41 PM

she probably target fixated and didn't roll on the throttle.
or she down shifted and didnt match the revs.

Mulholland · April 16th, 2012, 02:52 PM

Just looked lik she didn't turn enough, and it was too late by the time she realized she was overshooting her turn. Seemed like she should have uprighted and braked. Hindsight though... from the video she posted as a reference to how that road is supposed to be ridden, etc. it seemed like she was riding with riders above her comfort level/skill level as well, and was in between them to boot.

In the video, it was like she came out, was going too fast for her comfort/skill level for the second turn she was set up into already, and then **** her pants.

But I don't have a clue... I'm a friggin newb, just sayin' how I seen't it

csmith12 · April 16th, 2012, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trixter

This is covered in twist of the wrist 2, a common SR is to try to lean harder instead of steering, things do not work out the way you planned when you do that.

^^^ This

@11:15 In TOTW2 plays out a nearly identical scenario (sun, shadow and all). The stunt rider counter leans, target fixates then goes down. She low sided, stunt rider hits a log, ride safe or you could hit a porch.

Alex · April 16th, 2012, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

ride safe or you could hit a porch.

And it might hurt, no matter which type:

or

(yes, I know it's misspelled...)

csmith12 · April 16th, 2012, 03:16 PM

doh! The end result could be the same though.

squaregamer476 · April 16th, 2012, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lgk

she probably target fixated and didn't roll on the throttle.
or she down shifted and didnt match the revs.

Can still crash if you down shift and not match revs during a turn?

choneofakind · April 17th, 2012, 08:58 AM

Yes. You can make the back wheel chirp if you just pop the clutch when you downshift from 4th -2nd and expect it to match rpms for you. Try not to do anything to upset the bike through turns.

akima · April 17th, 2012, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dino74

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=92441

akima, you were the last one to post on that thread LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

Hahaha. Silly squirrel.

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

@akima fail! lol

Memory isn't my strong point ok!

choneofakind · April 17th, 2012, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akima

Memory isn't my strong point ok!

having a senior moment are we?

Jiggles · April 17th, 2012, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

having a senior moment are we?

She is pretty damn old, like 27, jebus

April 17th, 2012, 09:55 AM

Poor bike

lgk · April 17th, 2012, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squaregamer476

Can still crash if you down shift and not match revs during a turn?

it will make you under steer in a bad way.
in a tight corner, it could mean the difference between making it or crashing.

December 8th, 2011, 06:00 PM	#1
dino74 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: dino Location: Oceanside, Ca Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): '09 250 Street, '09 250 Race, '13 300 Race Posts: A lot.	two fiddy goes down Don't know who this is but it looks like Palomar (Socal) Link to original page on YouTube. __________________________________________________ CVMA #55

December 8th, 2011, 08:07 PM	#3
Snowy Aussie Rider Name: sam Location: Sydney Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki ninja 250r Posts: 9	Yea I'm always afraid of doing that, I ride like a grandpa around some corners in my area. poor 250 but at least your ok! __________________________________________________ Respect them, or they'll disrespect you.

December 8th, 2011, 08:39 PM	#4
Cazper ninjaholic Name: Dustin Location: Oceanside, CA Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09' SE 250R (sold), 03' ZX-6R, 99' XL1200C SP Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 3	I've ridden that area before... the gas station they were stopped at (unless I'm somehow mistaken) is at the far end of the small town of Julian and that part of the road is actually going away from the direction of Palomar... it's 78E (Banner Grade)... a really nice little stretch of asphalt __________________________________________________ 09' SE Ninja 250R $2,547.83 worth of mods installed... come on Unregistered, you know you want to know what? Check my Blog "Modification List"

December 8th, 2011, 11:03 PM	#8
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Why didn't she try to turn? __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

December 9th, 2011, 12:44 AM	#9
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	Looks like target fixation to me. She doesn't look through the turn thus going wide. __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

December 8th, 2011, 07:49 PM	#2
94fiveohvert ninjette.org member Name: United States Location: oklahoma city, ok Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250r, crf 50 Posts: 120	poor two fiddy.

December 8th, 2011, 09:33 PM	#5
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	that person massively didn't turn hard enough through that turn. They went WAY wide, and then dumped the bike.

December 8th, 2011, 09:34 PM	#6
saxnbass ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Nashville, TN Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 CBR600rr Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1

December 8th, 2011, 09:56 PM	#7
andylawcc ninjette.org guru Name: andy Location: san gabriel Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 faster red Posts: 397	women keeping it real: 4:05 minute to show a 15 second lowside. effing tease.

December 9th, 2011, 08:20 AM	#10
Jinx250 Smoker Name: Bob Location: SoCal Join Date: Dec 2010 Motorcycle(s): Guess.... Posts: 556	Even a big heavy cruiser could have made that curve. She needs to work on her transitions. She leaned the bike in hte right direction but it looks like she got freaked at how close the next corner was and fixated on the wall. Good example of "You go where you look." Just like that scooter video.

December 9th, 2011, 05:35 PM	#11
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	At least she didn't hit the wall. __________________________________________________

December 9th, 2011, 10:58 PM	#12
Heed ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: John Location: Illinois Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): None yet, yet. Posts: A lot.	for some reason i dont think you should be riding a 600 if you forget to put the kickstand up __________________________________________________ The Rush is Addictive

December 9th, 2011, 11:12 PM	#13
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	It's not that big of a deal. If you're routine is broken, that's when you usually forget stuff. If you forget a glove in your locker, does that mean you should wear gloves anymore? __________________________________________________

April 16th, 2012, 10:51 AM	#15
akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	A Ninjette Lowside Skip forward 2 mins if you want to jump to the lowside. Link to original page on YouTube. She made the comment "[I] Added lean instead of press then lost it..." What do you think she meant?

April 16th, 2012, 11:22 AM	#16
Mulholland Garage Monkey Name: Richard Location: North Texas Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 03 Ninjette Posts: 166	Meaning she leaned instead of trying to countersteer and went wide? I think perhaps countersteer is what she means by "press"

April 16th, 2012, 11:26 AM	#17
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Why didn't she just turn? __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

April 16th, 2012, 11:30 AM	#19
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	I think that the shadow messed up her judgement of the curve. Then it was too late and she didn't correct with countersteering fast enough.

April 16th, 2012, 11:42 AM	#20
greg737 - Name: - Location: - Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	Never really got the turn properly started before she left the road. It was like her mind was on something else at that point.

April 16th, 2012, 12:36 PM	#21
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	The shadow threw her off initially. When she started going wide, you can see her target fixate on the edge of the road, and when she gets to the gravel, she eats it and goes down. She might have entered that a little fast, but it was not out of the realm of what the bike can handle, as seen by the previous turns in that video. I think she just got thrown off by the shadows and lost concentration. I really think if she hadn't been distracted, more pressing on the inside bar, and more hanging off (which I didn't get the feeling she was doing much in the earlier turns) would have helped her negotiate that turn. Lesson from this video: slow in, get your body positioning right, THEN keep focused through the turn, and fast out. If it's been a long day of riding, maybe take it easy through the next few turns and take a water/snack break when possible. Another lesson: if you hit a turn too and end up going off the road for whatever reason, stand the bike up and slow down as rapidly as road conditions will allow. It's better to hit gravel upright at 10mph than leaned over at 30mph.

April 16th, 2012, 12:43 PM	#22
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	pretty sure Ive seen this... __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

April 16th, 2012, 12:44 PM	#23
dino74 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: dino Location: Oceanside, Ca Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): '09 250 Street, '09 250 Race, '13 300 Race Posts: A lot.	http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=92441 akima, you were the last one to post on that thread LOL __________________________________________________ CVMA #55

April 16th, 2012, 01:19 PM	#24
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Hahaha. Silly squirrel.

April 16th, 2012, 01:49 PM	#25
Kevin2109 KThanksBye Name: Kevin Location: Orange County Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 zx636r Posts: A lot.	What a noob Should have been on a 600 __________________________________________________ ----> My Youtube! <---- Unregistered, watch my youtube page!

April 16th, 2012, 01:59 PM	#26
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	@akima fail! lol __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

April 16th, 2012, 02:10 PM	#27
cuz cuz Name: Israel Location: Houston (me) Galveston Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	same thing happened to me but around 75ish __________________________________________________ THE GOOD LIFE

April 16th, 2012, 02:41 PM	#29
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	she probably target fixated and didn't roll on the throttle. or she down shifted and didnt match the revs.

April 16th, 2012, 02:52 PM	#30
Mulholland Garage Monkey Name: Richard Location: North Texas Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 03 Ninjette Posts: 166	Just looked lik she didn't turn enough, and it was too late by the time she realized she was overshooting her turn. Seemed like she should have uprighted and braked. Hindsight though... from the video she posted as a reference to how that road is supposed to be ridden, etc. it seemed like she was riding with riders above her comfort level/skill level as well, and was in between them to boot. In the video, it was like she came out, was going too fast for her comfort/skill level for the second turn she was set up into already, and then **** her pants. But I don't have a clue... I'm a friggin newb, just sayin' how I seen't it

April 16th, 2012, 03:16 PM	#33
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	doh! The end result could be the same though. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

April 17th, 2012, 08:58 AM	#35
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Yes. You can make the back wheel chirp if you just pop the clutch when you downshift from 4th -2nd and expect it to match rpms for you. Try not to do anything to upset the bike through turns.

April 17th, 2012, 09:55 AM	#39
codestp202 Guest Posts: n/a	Poor bike

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