race tires size/brand

sandman889 · May 7th, 2013, 11:48 PM

Just was wondering what brand and tire combination you guys are using at the track. I just got the 110 front and 150 rear in the stones.

Trailerboy531 · May 7th, 2013, 11:59 PM

110 Pirelli Supercorsa SC1
140 Pirelli Diablo Rosso II

sandman889 · May 8th, 2013, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

110 Pirelli Supercorsa SC1
140 Pirelli Diablo Rosso II

I have heard good things about the Pirellis. Seems like that's what a lot of the Cali boys rock.

csmith12 · May 8th, 2013, 04:41 AM

We use em here on the east side too, although many still use the BT003's here.

CC Cowboy · May 8th, 2013, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman889

Just was wondering what brand and tire combination you guys are using at the track. I just got the 110 front and 150 rear in the stones.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman889

I have heard good things about the Pirellis. Seems like that's what a lot of the Cali boys rock.

Are we still talking tires?

pomartin · May 8th, 2013, 08:24 AM

tried a lot of them... sava racing is the best
but only racing.. "regular" ones sucks ass
+ this is not on ninjette.. 95 suzuki GSXR 1100

Aufitt · May 9th, 2013, 08:33 PM

Ive tried a few,

003 rears were magic, the fronts turned to mush,
SC1 fronts are magic, rears are hopeless as 150's jut don't work,

Then went to Rosso2 rear.. amazing.
now I need a new front I think I'll stick with this seemingly odd combination of SC1 front/Rosso2 rear.

Or try a Rosso2 front.

rc-rick · May 10th, 2013, 03:26 PM

110 Pirelli Supercorsa SC1
140 Pirelli Diablo Rosso II

Here in the mid west also

alex.s · May 10th, 2013, 06:33 PM

i'm on two rosso 2s. they're pretty good. thinking about switching to slicks but dont like the cost.

bruce71198 · May 11th, 2013, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

We use em here on the east side too, although many still use the BT003's here.

And in the Midwest . I'm running Rosas II's front and back. Started on Bridgestones, they weren't bad but they aren't as good as the Pirelli's.

sierrahotel · May 11th, 2013, 07:32 AM

Don't forget the Bridgestone slicks. Most of the fast guys in socal run them, partly due to the great contingency that covers the fact that they don't last as long.

They are the GP3 tires meant for a 125 bike. 90 profile front, 120 rear. They are skinny, but have tons of grip.

TGRIFF · May 11th, 2013, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sierrahotel

Don't forget the Bridgestone slicks. Most of the fast guys in socal run them, partly due to the great contingency that covers the fact that they don't last as long.

They are the GP3 tires meant for a 125 bike. 90 profile front, 120 rear. They are skinny, but have tons of grip.

Do they grip better than the BT-003?

sierrahotel · May 11th, 2013, 07:40 AM

Hell yes.

TGRIFF · May 11th, 2013, 06:16 PM

I'll have to try them out, where can I order a set?

sierrahotel · May 12th, 2013, 03:37 PM

Any Bstone race tire distributor. Should be $275ish a set.

You want the GP-Mono R03Z YCX front and R04Z YCY rear (not the GP3 as I said above, that was wrong). Run them at 30 or 31 psi hot.

I get 2 race weekends out of a front and 3 maybe 4 from a rear at ~5sec behind lap record pace. More like 1 front per weekend if you're fighting for the win. Slow down a couple more seconds and a 3+ weekend old front feels fine.

TGRIFF · May 13th, 2013, 02:39 AM

thanks for the info

KazMan · May 16th, 2013, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

110 Pirelli Supercorsa SC1
140 Pirelli Diablo Rosso II

I believe all the lap records on the West Coast have been set by this tire combination. I know my bike has Las Vegas at 1:29.1 set by rider Andrew Lee.

r6boater · May 27th, 2013, 04:32 PM

Draik switched from the b-stones 120/140 combo, popular in the southeast, to Pirelli Rosso II 110 and SC1 150. We were throughly pleased with the switch. His lap times dropped, feel on the bike is much better, and he can drop into the corners a lot better.

sowega · May 28th, 2013, 10:38 AM

Bridgestone R10 120 up front, BT003R 140 out back

r6boater · May 28th, 2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sowega

Bridgestone R10 120 up front, BT003R 140 out back

Interested In Some Good Take Offs? We Can Drop Them Off On Our Way To RRR This Weekend...

tooblekain · May 28th, 2013, 05:03 PM

Running the Bridgestone GP125 slicks that sierrahotel mentioned

Also running the Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SC2 110 front and Pirelli Diablo Rosso II 140 rear. My current Pirelli setup is great for trackdays because the fronts barely look worn.

Rexbo · May 28th, 2013, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooblekain

Running the Bridgestone GP125 slicks that sierrahotel mentioned

Also running the Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SC2 110 front and Pirelli Diablo Rosso II 140 rear. My current Pirelli setup is great for trackdays because the fronts barely look worn.

My SC2 front tire has now... 3 weekends at Sonoma, a two-day weekend at Buttonwillow, and two race weekends at CVMA. Still like 50% tread left!

dino74 · May 28th, 2013, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KazMan

I believe all the lap records on the West Coast have been set by this tire combination. I know my bike has Las Vegas at 1:29.1 set by rider Andrew Lee.

I'm pretty sure Fogle's CCW record at CVR was on the Bridgestone Slicks.

What does Ari run?

cbinker · May 28th, 2013, 06:58 PM

I have Metzlar M5s on now110/150, i have a set of Rosso 2 110/140 that i will be putting on before i go to High Plains next week.

snot · August 27th, 2013, 04:58 PM

Anyone try a bigger tire on a 300?

sandman889 · February 5th, 2014, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

110 Pirelli Supercorsa SC1
140 Pirelli Diablo Rosso II

Ok so I am going to make the switch to this set of tires for this season.
Where can I order them from. Can't find them online and we don't have a dedicated dealer at our track. Just want to try something other than the stones I have been running on all my bikes. Thanks James

Trailerboy531 · February 5th, 2014, 11:03 PM

the 140 you can usually get from Sportbike track gear. The supercorsa has to be ordered from a Pirelli vendor if you're west of the mississippi. No idea why....

tooblekain · February 6th, 2014, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman889

Ok so I am going to make the switch to this set of tires for this season.
Where can I order them from. Can't find them online and we don't have a dedicated dealer at our track. Just want to try something other than the stones I have been running on all my bikes. Thanks James

You can order your DOT race tire front online from Racer's Edge Performance (they are trackside to us for events at Chuckwalla).

If Racer's Edge Performance can't help you, you can try CT Racing

sprinter · February 6th, 2014, 04:07 PM

I ran the Pirelli SC1's in 110/150 last year on my 300, they wore like iron and had decent grip. Switching to the Bridgestone 250 GP slicks this year as soon as my Marchesini wheels come in. If I don't have the wheels before the first event in April, I might try the 125 GP slicks. My shop is the Bridgestone race tire distrubutor for the Midwest region so I kind of have a vested interest in running them....

sandman889 · February 6th, 2014, 07:42 PM

Thanks for the info guys. I wish we where aloud to run slicks. I bet they would be pretty sweet. No slicks for us in this spec class

RacerX113 · February 7th, 2014, 12:46 PM

I've been running the Dunlop Unbeaten. They work good for me but I think I'm going to try the Dunlop 211 120 up front this season.
I would also like to try the Pirellis...Heard alot of good things about them.

tooblekain · February 7th, 2014, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacerX113

I've been running the Dunlop Unbeaten. They work good for me but I think I'm going to try the Dunlop 211 120 up front this season.
I would also like to try the Pirellis...Heard alot of good things about them.

I constantly flip flop between a Pirelli setup and a Dunlop setup. They both work really well. They just have different characteristics.

MKlein3004 · February 7th, 2014, 02:33 PM

My endurance team ran the 120/140 bt003r/RS combo last year. I enjoyed them, but wanted a 110 front, I will try the Pirelli combo of sc1 110/140 Rosso II the first two races and see how I like them. If I am not impressed I may try either the 120/140 r10/bt003rs or the 120/150 Gpa/unbeaten. The benefit to the unbeaten combo is I can use the fronts on my big bike for track days and I would just have to buy the tears. We will see.

sharky nrk · February 7th, 2014, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprinter

I ran the Pirelli SC1's in 110/150 last year on my 300, they wore like iron and had decent grip. Switching to the Bridgestone 250 GP slicks this year as soon as my Marchesini wheels come in. If I don't have the wheels before the first event in April, I might try the 125 GP slicks. My shop is the Bridgestone race tire distrubutor for the Midwest region so I kind of have a vested interest in running them....

info on wheels?

shane liberty · February 10th, 2014, 12:09 PM

The Ninja 250 lap record at CVR is held by a rider using the Bridgestone 125GP slicks.

I run the same setup as Josh does. It's a 90mm front tire and 120mm rear. They stick like glue and you can carve any line you want on the track. We run this setup mainly because Bridgestone pays out the most contingency at CVMA so when you podium you're getting tire money for the next race round. It's always nice to get tire money in the mail.

sprinter · February 12th, 2014, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharky nrk

info on wheels?

Marchesini forged aluminum race wheels (they're not going to make them in Magnesium for that bike), you can get either standard size or oversize. Standard size are 17"x2.75" front and 17"x4" rear. Oversize are 17"x3" front and 17"x4.5" rear. Matte black, gloss black or gold. I went with oversize gold, pre-ordered them and they're supposed to be out late March/early April. No pictures yet since they don't exist, but we should be getting some from our Marchesini sales rep soon hopefully, when I get them I'll post up.

sharky nrk · February 12th, 2014, 03:44 PM

^^ awesome. Can you do a review with scale shots when they make it in?

sprinter · February 12th, 2014, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharky nrk

^^ awesome. Can you do a review with scale shots when they make it in?

Will do!

sandman889 · February 23rd, 2014, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

110 Pirelli Supercorsa SC1
140 Pirelli Diablo Rosso II

Is there a reason why a lot of people are not using a 120 sc1 or 150 sc1.
I thought some people may be using 120 sc1 with a Ross 140 rear or 110sc1 with a 150sc1 rear. What are some of the benifits and drawbacks for using a 110/120 front and 140/150 rear. Last season I had a 110 bstone front and 150 rear. I never trusted the front and the rear always felt have and like it didn't want to let me drop in the corners....

MKlein3004 · February 23rd, 2014, 05:55 PM

While the 120/150 set up does allow for better tire options, the 150 tends to be slightly pinched on the wheel, and changes the flick ability of the bike, which is one of the benefits I this awesome little machine. The 120/110 debate is one that could go either way. The 120 size allows for race DOT tired to be used. You will never reach the edge of these tires prior to scraping hard parts. Also it raised the front end ever so slightly so changing the geometry of the bike back down is another thing with the 120. The front end grip for these bikes is all that really matters, and you will not break loose the rear because of acceleration with a supersport tire. In saying that, a lot f the fast guys run the sc1/Rosso I I (110/140) set up because it's the best of both worlds. DOT tire up front with a 110, and a ss tire in the rear on a 140 which isn't pinched at all. The other option seems to be the unbeaten setup with a 110/150 setup both DOT race tires. This 150 was specifically designed for the 250 and allows the bike to remain flick able. But people seem to replace the 110 front of the unbeatens with a 120 GPA because of the outright grip. There are trade offs of both, and the Pirelli setup seems to be the choice of most, but the bridgestones and the dunlops win races also. It's a trade off for the tire sizes an what you can afford and how you want the bike to act.

May 7th, 2013, 11:48 PM	#1
sandman889 ninjette.org member Name: James Location: North Dakota Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 Race Posts: 30	race tires size/brand Just was wondering what brand and tire combination you guys are using at the track. I just got the 110 front and 150 rear in the stones. __________________________________________________ CRA#889E 2013 Ninja 250 Champion

May 7th, 2013, 11:59 PM	#2
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	110 Pirelli Supercorsa SC1 140 Pirelli Diablo Rosso II __________________________________________________ CVMA #531

May 8th, 2013, 04:41 AM	#4
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	We use em here on the east side too, although many still use the BT003's here. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

May 10th, 2013, 06:33 PM	#9
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	i'm on two rosso 2s. they're pretty good. thinking about switching to slicks but dont like the cost. __________________________________________________

May 27th, 2013, 04:32 PM	#18
r6boater ninjette.org member Name: Kurt Location: Knoxville Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): '04 R1 and '08 Ninja 250 Posts: 222	Draik switched from the b-stones 120/140 combo, popular in the southeast, to Pirelli Rosso II 110 and SC1 150. We were throughly pleased with the switch. His lap times dropped, feel on the bike is much better, and he can drop into the corners a lot better. __________________________________________________ Check out this Ninja 250 roadracing youth---> TheDraik77 <--- My son

May 8th, 2013, 08:24 AM	#6
pomartin ninjette.org member Name: Martin Location: Slovenia Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R (FI) Posts: 169	tried a lot of them... sava racing is the best but only racing.. "regular" ones sucks ass + this is not on ninjette.. 95 suzuki GSXR 1100

May 9th, 2013, 08:33 PM	#7
Aufitt The A Team Name: Aufitt Location: Western Australia Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Z50, CB125, RZ500, MC22, R3. Posts: 394	Ive tried a few, 003 rears were magic, the fronts turned to mush, SC1 fronts are magic, rears are hopeless as 150's jut don't work, Then went to Rosso2 rear.. amazing. now I need a new front I think I'll stick with this seemingly odd combination of SC1 front/Rosso2 rear. Or try a Rosso2 front.

May 10th, 2013, 03:26 PM	#8
rc-rick ninjette.org member Name: Rick Location: St Peters Join Date: Feb 2013 Motorcycle(s): '09 ZX6 (street), '04 RC51 (street/track), '08 Ninja 250 (race) Posts: 104	110 Pirelli Supercorsa SC1 140 Pirelli Diablo Rosso II Here in the mid west also

May 11th, 2013, 07:32 AM	#11
sierrahotel CVMA #92 Name: Bryan Location: socal Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): harleys Posts: 242	Don't forget the Bridgestone slicks. Most of the fast guys in socal run them, partly due to the great contingency that covers the fact that they don't last as long. They are the GP3 tires meant for a 125 bike. 90 profile front, 120 rear. They are skinny, but have tons of grip.

May 11th, 2013, 07:40 AM	#13
sierrahotel CVMA #92 Name: Bryan Location: socal Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): harleys Posts: 242	Hell yes.

May 11th, 2013, 06:16 PM	#14
TGRIFF ninjette.org member Name: Tyson Location: Fayetteville, NC Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R Posts: 72	I'll have to try them out, where can I order a set?

May 12th, 2013, 03:37 PM	#15
sierrahotel CVMA #92 Name: Bryan Location: socal Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): harleys Posts: 242	Any Bstone race tire distributor. Should be $275ish a set. You want the GP-Mono R03Z YCX front and R04Z YCY rear (not the GP3 as I said above, that was wrong). Run them at 30 or 31 psi hot. I get 2 race weekends out of a front and 3 maybe 4 from a rear at ~5sec behind lap record pace. More like 1 front per weekend if you're fighting for the win. Slow down a couple more seconds and a 3+ weekend old front feels fine.

May 13th, 2013, 02:39 AM	#16
TGRIFF ninjette.org member Name: Tyson Location: Fayetteville, NC Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R Posts: 72	thanks for the info

May 28th, 2013, 10:38 AM	#19
sowega ninjette.org guru Name: Ed Location: Atlanta, GA Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 899, 748, 250, 250, 70 Posts: 348	Bridgestone R10 120 up front, BT003R 140 out back __________________________________________________ Eberhart Creative

May 28th, 2013, 05:03 PM	#21
tooblekain ninjette.org sage Name: Matt Location: San Diego, CA Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Triumph Bonneville; 2008 Ninja 250r (trackbike) Posts: 748	Running the Bridgestone GP125 slicks that sierrahotel mentioned Also running the Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SC2 110 front and Pirelli Diablo Rosso II 140 rear. My current Pirelli setup is great for trackdays because the fronts barely look worn. __________________________________________________ CVMA #312SoCal TrackdaysBigHeadz RacingMotion ProFactory EffexLeatt Brace* Racetech Bell Woodcraft CFMVortexHotbodiesSurface Sun SystemsBrakingLiveWire EnergyFreegun Underwear

May 28th, 2013, 06:58 PM	#24
cbinker Track Clown Name: Chris Location: Kingman, AZ Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R, 21 MV F3 800, Kawasaki 400 build Posts: A lot. MOTM - Sep '15	I have Metzlar M5s on now110/150, i have a set of Rosso 2 110/140 that i will be putting on before i go to High Plains next week. __________________________________________________ TEAM ALFALFA www.apexassassins.com

August 27th, 2013, 04:58 PM	#25
snot sammich maker Name: snot Location: West Ohio - in the kitchen Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 white 300, 09 KLX 250 SF, 09 thunder blue 250(traded) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '15	Anyone try a bigger tire on a 300?

February 5th, 2014, 11:03 PM	#27
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	the 140 you can usually get from Sportbike track gear. The supercorsa has to be ordered from a Pirelli vendor if you're west of the mississippi. No idea why.... __________________________________________________ CVMA #531

February 6th, 2014, 04:07 PM	#29
sprinter ninjette.org member Name: JJ Location: USA Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2018 Ninja 400 Race Bike (in progress...) Posts: 126	I ran the Pirelli SC1's in 110/150 last year on my 300, they wore like iron and had decent grip. Switching to the Bridgestone 250 GP slicks this year as soon as my Marchesini wheels come in. If I don't have the wheels before the first event in April, I might try the 125 GP slicks. My shop is the Bridgestone race tire distrubutor for the Midwest region so I kind of have a vested interest in running them....

February 6th, 2014, 07:42 PM	#30
sandman889 ninjette.org member Name: James Location: North Dakota Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 Race Posts: 30	Thanks for the info guys. I wish we where aloud to run slicks. I bet they would be pretty sweet. No slicks for us in this spec class __________________________________________________ CRA#889E 2013 Ninja 250 Champion

February 7th, 2014, 12:46 PM	#31
RacerX113 ninjette.org member Name: Doug Location: Atlanta Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Triumph Thruxton, Ninja 250 Posts: 148	I've been running the Dunlop Unbeaten. They work good for me but I think I'm going to try the Dunlop 211 120 up front this season. I would also like to try the Pirellis...Heard alot of good things about them.

February 7th, 2014, 02:33 PM	#33
MKlein3004 Fighting Texas Aggie '08 Name: Mitchell Location: Allen, Tx Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r (Race), 2005 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R 636 (Track), 2005 Ducati Monster 620 (Street) Posts: 541	My endurance team ran the 120/140 bt003r/RS combo last year. I enjoyed them, but wanted a 110 front, I will try the Pirelli combo of sc1 110/140 Rosso II the first two races and see how I like them. If I am not impressed I may try either the 120/140 r10/bt003rs or the 120/150 Gpa/unbeaten. The benefit to the unbeaten combo is I can use the fronts on my big bike for track days and I would just have to buy the tears. We will see.

February 10th, 2014, 12:09 PM	#35
shane liberty ninjette.org member Name: Shane Location: San Diego Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): None Yet Posts: 134	The Ninja 250 lap record at CVR is held by a rider using the Bridgestone 125GP slicks. I run the same setup as Josh does. It's a 90mm front tire and 120mm rear. They stick like glue and you can carve any line you want on the track. We run this setup mainly because Bridgestone pays out the most contingency at CVMA so when you podium you're getting tire money for the next race round. It's always nice to get tire money in the mail.

February 12th, 2014, 03:44 PM	#37
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	^^ awesome. Can you do a review with scale shots when they make it in? __________________________________________________ Keep it rubber side down and enjoy the ride Get healthy - Get Fit - Change Your Life Click Here Or PM Me To Find More - Advocare

February 23rd, 2014, 05:55 PM	#40
MKlein3004 Fighting Texas Aggie '08 Name: Mitchell Location: Allen, Tx Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r (Race), 2005 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R 636 (Track), 2005 Ducati Monster 620 (Street) Posts: 541	While the 120/150 set up does allow for better tire options, the 150 tends to be slightly pinched on the wheel, and changes the flick ability of the bike, which is one of the benefits I this awesome little machine. The 120/110 debate is one that could go either way. The 120 size allows for race DOT tired to be used. You will never reach the edge of these tires prior to scraping hard parts. Also it raised the front end ever so slightly so changing the geometry of the bike back down is another thing with the 120. The front end grip for these bikes is all that really matters, and you will not break loose the rear because of acceleration with a supersport tire. In saying that, a lot f the fast guys run the sc1/Rosso I I (110/140) set up because it's the best of both worlds. DOT tire up front with a 110, and a ss tire in the rear on a 140 which isn't pinched at all. The other option seems to be the unbeaten setup with a 110/150 setup both DOT race tires. This 150 was specifically designed for the 250 and allows the bike to remain flick able. But people seem to replace the 110 front of the unbeatens with a 120 GPA because of the outright grip. There are trade offs of both, and the Pirelli setup seems to be the choice of most, but the bridgestones and the dunlops win races also. It's a trade off for the tire sizes an what you can afford and how you want the bike to act.

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