Can't believe this happened to me

July 4th, 2009, 03:56 PM

nevermind

AnarchoMoltov · July 4th, 2009, 04:03 PM

sorry 2 hear that..hope your alright..

Nickds7 · July 4th, 2009, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyo sang

i think what happend was i just poped the clutch and didnt have enough time to turn or slam on the brakes.

What exactly happened? I don't get this part.

But I'm sorry to hear about the bike. It definitely sucks when it happens. Hope fixing goes quickly, almost any info you need is in the tech section.

CC Cowboy · July 4th, 2009, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyo sang

crashed my bike the other day into a car. i think what happend was i just poped the clutch and didnt have enough time to turn or slam on the brakes. But I didnt hurt myself to bad, just a little missing skin on my knee and hip with some knee pain. I dont think i damaged the car at all maybe a little paint on the underside but as for my bike i cracked the front fender. cracked my left fairing a little more scratched the hell outta my exhaust in two places, and left some real bad scratches and scrapes in the right lower fairing and front fairing. I never though i would make such a stupid mistake. I guess i just wasnt paying attention or what but it was probably one of the most embaressing moments in my life.
I have a left lower fairing on the way, i bought some paint, rubbing compound, bondo, and clearcoat. Maybe a slip on exhaust idk. Hopefully it turns out good so i dont have to buy any more plastic.

More embarassing then telling us on here that you screwed up, crashed your bike, scratched a car up, and hurt your knee and hip because you weren't paying attention?

July 4th, 2009, 06:16 PM

k i wasnt embaressed about posting that but **** off

DerTeufel · July 4th, 2009, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

More embarassing they telling us on here that you screwed up, crashed your bike, scratched a car up, and hurt your knee and hip because you weren't paying attention?

I agree with what he's saying..hope you learned something from your spill.

Snake · July 4th, 2009, 07:48 PM

Sorry to hear that.

Verus Cidere · July 4th, 2009, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyo sang

nevermind

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyo sang

k i wasnt embaressed about posting that but **** off

Bro, it sounds to me like you need to chill out. We're sorry you crashed, but if you can't take some dry humor about it from the king of ninjette dry humor, you're not using the right mindset when posting this kind of thing. We're not here to make fun of you, or tell you you're a horrible rider, but we are here to help you learn from your mistakes, just like we learn from ours. Please don't start cussing people out just because they make a snide comment in the hopes that you'll take the time to think about how it happened and make an attempt to keep from duplicating your mistake. Thank you.

capt_bugaloo · July 5th, 2009, 08:37 AM

Ah, I gotta side with the OP. He's a newbie, and wants to share his negative experience. Sure he screwed up, but it might have been said a little nicer.

Oh well, now that he's been chased off the site I guess no one will have to read about his mistakes anymore.

zartan · July 5th, 2009, 09:31 AM

Capt, I feel the same way.. Always better to try to get someone on track then to chase them away.

noche_caliente · July 5th, 2009, 10:01 AM

sorry to hear about your bike - lets try to figure out what happened so the same thing doesn't happen again. Also, iof you need help getting your bike back in shape, let us know and we'll try to help.
You said you popped the clutch too fast - were you stopped at a hill, or what? I need a little more info....
When I had my incident, I was stopped on a very steep hil on a tar and gravel road. Teh tar was all that was left, and I had to turn across the gravel - compiled with a 2-day old bike that I was still learning and a very lean bike that was all kinds of twitchy and it was just a not nice situation. The best thing I did was shim the carbs to keep her from being too lean and haven't found myself in that situation since....

AnarchoMoltov · July 5th, 2009, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noche_caliente

The best thing I did was shim the carbs to keep her from being too lean and haven't found myself in that situation since....

I was going to rejet....Should I also shim the carbs? or is that something u do instead of rejetting?

noche_caliente · July 5th, 2009, 10:45 AM

same end result, the shimming is more of a crude method and you can't fine-tune as well - if you don't have an after market exhaust on yet, you're probably fine with just shimming - Kelly didn't rejet his until after the area P, the desnorkel, and removing the airbox I believe...

kkim · July 5th, 2009, 10:51 AM

I had the AP QC exhaust and a desnorkeled airbox with 3 shims under each needle and the bike ran great. It wasn't till I removed the airbox and went to a stand alone filter that I installed a jet kit.

Noche's correct that shimming is a crude version of rejetting, but costs pennies and will give you about 75% of the improvements you get by installing a jet kit.

M · July 5th, 2009, 11:00 AM

Shimming the needles isn't crude if you are adjusting between the next jet size. It actually lets you fine tune the A/F ratio (up to 4 shims).

Now, if you're just tossing shims on the needles w/o knowing your A/F ratio...

kkim · July 5th, 2009, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by namdiuqs

Now, if you're just tossing shims on the needles w/o knowing your A/F ratio...

lol... and how many people actually have access or use a dyno when they are shimming their bikes?

Verus Cidere · July 5th, 2009, 12:51 PM

I don't see where anyone was trying to chase him off. If he's going to take sarcasm that way, what are we supposed to do? Forbid Oscar from ever posting again?

zartan · July 5th, 2009, 03:15 PM

Just seems there is a time and place for everything. Nobody said anything about forbiding anything and or anyone. don't make this bigger than it is.
this isn't your deal.
Just the guy seemed bummed and he didn't need kicking when he was down.

Don't make me mad....
you wouldn't like me when I'm mad...

zartan · July 5th, 2009, 03:19 PM

I just dropped my clutch yesterday. Hand was getting tired. *&it happens.

Quote:

Noche's correct that shimming is a crude version of rejetting, but costs pennies and will give you about 75% of the improvements you get by installing a jet kit.

+1 makes a huge difference and much more control good advice ya' all!!

AnarchoMoltov · July 6th, 2009, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noche_caliente

same end result, the shimming is more of a crude method and you can't fine-tune as well - if you don't have an after market exhaust on yet, you're probably fine with just shimming - Kelly didn't rejet his until after the area P, the desnorkel, and removing the airbox I believe...

oh ok..I got the standard ap exhaust, and I noticed a huge difference b-tween stock and and the ap..I also bought the jet kit with it..Is there going to be a noticeable difference after the rejet???? also, My exhaust snaps crackles and pops in higher gears and rpms when closing the throttle, if I slowly close it I can some what control the back fireing, will a rejet help this also???

kkim · July 6th, 2009, 12:25 AM

you ain't seen nuthin till you rejet the bike. when you do so, remove the snorkel at the same time. use the jetting database to figure out where to start with your baseline jetting. be willing to put a lot of time fine tuning your jetting.

backfiring can be cured by removing the Kleen system. take a look in this thread for more info on all these subjects...
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5586

NJD022588 · July 6th, 2009, 12:26 AM

To stop backfiring, try removing the Kleen Air System

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9948

EDIT: Kelly beat me to it. Slow poster here...

AnarchoMoltov · July 6th, 2009, 12:49 AM

thankz

zartan · July 6th, 2009, 12:53 AM

You will notice a difference and more torquey response right off the throttle!
I have a little pop still once in a great while. Is there anything that might be harmful about removing this. It is only an emission requirement , Right??

I think Kkim is really a Bot

kkim · July 6th, 2009, 01:06 AM

yep, an emission thing and if you've switched out to a full aftermarket system you got rid of the 2 cats that the stock system has in the header pipe and muffler.

try it, if it doesn't work for you for some reason, it's easily reversible.

zartan · July 6th, 2009, 01:14 AM

Ok next time I have it apart I will check it out. I only have the slip on . I had some jetting and shimming done but it was by a really good tuner. People ask about my bike at the dealer and they say yep Joe did it!!
I know how to do it but,,,
I don't mess with the carbs I have fumbly finger and might as well tear the diaphrams right off the bat. He also bored the slides and trimmed the springs.

The emissions tubing looks easy enough to do and reverse if necessary I can handle that. I have done everything else cept the carbs.
thanks,

AnarchoMoltov · July 6th, 2009, 01:37 AM

Plugging the kleen air system and pulling the snorkel seem easy enough...Its the rejetting thatz gonna be a pain in the ass, becuz I dont know how 2 do it, and I dont trust myself enough to attempt 2 do it..Finding a good, reliable, honest mechanic 2 do it, and do it right, is gonna be hard 2...

Cali619 · July 6th, 2009, 08:35 AM

lol major thread jack

kkim · July 6th, 2009, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cali619

lol major thread jack

not really.

if the OP wants it back, all he needs to do is post.

July 4th, 2009, 03:56 PM	#1
hyo sang Guest Posts: n/a	Can't believe this happened to me nevermind Last futzed with by hyo sang; July 4th, 2009 at 06:15 PM.

July 5th, 2009, 08:37 AM	#9
capt_bugaloo motorcycle rider Name: Bruce Location: Victoria, BC Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver) Posts: A lot.	Ah, I gotta side with the OP. He's a newbie, and wants to share his negative experience. Sure he screwed up, but it might have been said a little nicer. Oh well, now that he's been chased off the site I guess no one will have to read about his mistakes anymore. __________________________________________________ '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver)

July 5th, 2009, 09:31 AM	#10
zartan ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: zartan Location: spam la Join Date: Oct 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250 R Posts: A lot.	Capt, I feel the same way.. Always better to try to get someone on track then to chase them away. __________________________________________________ "Don't let adverse facts stand in the way of a good decision" Colin Powell

July 5th, 2009, 10:01 AM	#11
noche_caliente ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kim Location: mundo de ensueño Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 250 Posts: A lot.	sorry to hear about your bike - lets try to figure out what happened so the same thing doesn't happen again. Also, iof you need help getting your bike back in shape, let us know and we'll try to help. You said you popped the clutch too fast - were you stopped at a hill, or what? I need a little more info.... When I had my incident, I was stopped on a very steep hil on a tar and gravel road. Teh tar was all that was left, and I had to turn across the gravel - compiled with a 2-day old bike that I was still learning and a very lean bike that was all kinds of twitchy and it was just a not nice situation. The best thing I did was shim the carbs to keep her from being too lean and haven't found myself in that situation since.... __________________________________________________ Progrip tank pad, blue rim stripes, blue Pazzos, Roaring Toyz lowering kit, Puig DB in dark smoke, Cortech sport tail, super mini tank, and saddlebags, OES swingarm spools and Intuitive frame sliders

July 5th, 2009, 10:45 AM	#13
noche_caliente ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kim Location: mundo de ensueño Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 250 Posts: A lot.	same end result, the shimming is more of a crude method and you can't fine-tune as well - if you don't have an after market exhaust on yet, you're probably fine with just shimming - Kelly didn't rejet his until after the area P, the desnorkel, and removing the airbox I believe... __________________________________________________ Progrip tank pad, blue rim stripes, blue Pazzos, Roaring Toyz lowering kit, Puig DB in dark smoke, Cortech sport tail, super mini tank, and saddlebags, OES swingarm spools and Intuitive frame sliders

July 4th, 2009, 04:03 PM	#2
AnarchoMoltov ninjette.org guru Name: Dan Location: Chicago, il.... Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Suzuki GSX-R750 Posts: 378	sorry 2 hear that..hope your alright..

July 4th, 2009, 06:16 PM	#5
hyo sang Guest Posts: n/a	k i wasnt embaressed about posting that but **** off

July 4th, 2009, 07:48 PM	#7
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	Sorry to hear that.

July 5th, 2009, 10:51 AM	#14
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	I had the AP QC exhaust and a desnorkeled airbox with 3 shims under each needle and the bike ran great. It wasn't till I removed the airbox and went to a stand alone filter that I installed a jet kit. Noche's correct that shimming is a crude version of rejetting, but costs pennies and will give you about 75% of the improvements you get by installing a jet kit.

July 5th, 2009, 11:00 AM	#15
M ninjette.org member Name: M Location: Oklahoma Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 x2, Ninja 650R Posts: 165	Shimming the needles isn't crude if you are adjusting between the next jet size. It actually lets you fine tune the A/F ratio (up to 4 shims). Now, if you're just tossing shims on the needles w/o knowing your A/F ratio...

July 5th, 2009, 12:51 PM	#17
Verus Cidere ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Michael Location: Southern NM Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '91 Honda CBR600 F2 Posts: A lot.	I don't see where anyone was trying to chase him off. If he's going to take sarcasm that way, what are we supposed to do? Forbid Oscar from ever posting again? __________________________________________________ 1991 Honda CBR600 F2, White/Gray, D&D slip-on exhaust, tail integrator, gel grips, Custom undertail.

July 6th, 2009, 12:25 AM	#21
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	you ain't seen nuthin till you rejet the bike. when you do so, remove the snorkel at the same time. use the jetting database to figure out where to start with your baseline jetting. be willing to put a lot of time fine tuning your jetting. backfiring can be cured by removing the Kleen system. take a look in this thread for more info on all these subjects... http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5586

July 6th, 2009, 12:26 AM	#22
NJD022588 ============ Name: Nick Location: Occoquan, VA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R Posts: 518	To stop backfiring, try removing the Kleen Air System http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9948 EDIT: Kelly beat me to it. Slow poster here...

July 6th, 2009, 12:49 AM	#23
AnarchoMoltov ninjette.org guru Name: Dan Location: Chicago, il.... Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Suzuki GSX-R750 Posts: 378	thankz

July 6th, 2009, 12:53 AM	#24
zartan ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: zartan Location: spam la Join Date: Oct 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250 R Posts: A lot.	You will notice a difference and more torquey response right off the throttle! I have a little pop still once in a great while. Is there anything that might be harmful about removing this. It is only an emission requirement , Right?? I think Kkim is really a Bot __________________________________________________ "Don't let adverse facts stand in the way of a good decision" Colin Powell

July 6th, 2009, 01:06 AM	#25
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	yep, an emission thing and if you've switched out to a full aftermarket system you got rid of the 2 cats that the stock system has in the header pipe and muffler. try it, if it doesn't work for you for some reason, it's easily reversible.

July 6th, 2009, 01:14 AM	#26
zartan ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: zartan Location: spam la Join Date: Oct 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250 R Posts: A lot.	Ok next time I have it apart I will check it out. I only have the slip on . I had some jetting and shimming done but it was by a really good tuner. People ask about my bike at the dealer and they say yep Joe did it!! I know how to do it but,,, I don't mess with the carbs I have fumbly finger and might as well tear the diaphrams right off the bat. He also bored the slides and trimmed the springs. The emissions tubing looks easy enough to do and reverse if necessary I can handle that. I have done everything else cept the carbs. thanks, __________________________________________________ "Don't let adverse facts stand in the way of a good decision" Colin Powell

July 6th, 2009, 01:37 AM	#27
AnarchoMoltov ninjette.org guru Name: Dan Location: Chicago, il.... Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Suzuki GSX-R750 Posts: 378	Plugging the kleen air system and pulling the snorkel seem easy enough...Its the rejetting thatz gonna be a pain in the ass, becuz I dont know how 2 do it, and I dont trust myself enough to attempt 2 do it..Finding a good, reliable, honest mechanic 2 do it, and do it right, is gonna be hard 2...

July 6th, 2009, 08:35 AM	#28
Cali619 Giggity Giggity Name: Ryam Location: San Diego Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 ninja 250R aka Hiryu Posts: 481	lol major thread jack __________________________________________________ Facebook DY Fender chop, Danmoto CB slip-on w/baffle, Airbox removed, Kleen-air removed, shimmed needles, Mikuni #117.5 Main jets, K&N RU-1822 air filter pods

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