Why no standard on gear?

fishdip · March 25th, 2015, 05:49 AM

So all this talk of gear on this site got me thinking why is there no stander for gear like with helmets?

Flying · March 25th, 2015, 06:09 AM

The cost/benefit of a helmet is easy to advertise, much like seatbelts and bicycle helmets.

Not as easy with vague rubber armor inserts behind thick nylon and leather.

It's easy to see which one legislation will favor.

Aufitt · March 25th, 2015, 06:10 AM

There is European CE certification.

CE-2 is where its at now.

Flying · March 25th, 2015, 06:12 AM

I think the question is asking why the protection offered by a motorcycle jacket as a whole isn't standardized in the same way a helmet is.

fishdip · March 25th, 2015, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aufitt

There is European CE certification.

CE-2 is where its at now.

Interesting tho I did not know they had armor ratings.

Ghostt · March 25th, 2015, 11:07 AM

Yes CE rating is always a good thing. The Europeans seem to be way ahead of us here in the colonies. Even their helmet rating system is more strict I do believe.

One must be careful that some jackets have CE armour in the elbows, and shoulders, but only come with a piece of foam for the back.

This is a money making scheme to sell you the CE rated back protection.

So be sure that in the future you look for the CE armour ratings.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_armor

adouglas · March 25th, 2015, 04:16 PM

Not all CE ratings are created equal, as it turns out.

Read this... well worth your time.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcyc...s-approved.htm

csmith12 · March 25th, 2015, 04:19 PM

Why? Simple... there is no law that says there has to be, nor does there need to be one.

Ghostt · March 25th, 2015, 04:23 PM

It's a manufacturer standard, not a law like DOT.

Some states require a helmet must meet DOT standards to be legal, same as a SNELL APPROVED for tracks etc.....

csmith12 · March 25th, 2015, 04:25 PM

I think you missed the fundamental there... Until there is a min. standard by law that one must adhere to, then there is no need for a standard in the first place.

Ghostt · March 25th, 2015, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

I think you missed the fundamental there... Until there is a min. standard by law that one must adhere to, then there is no need for a standard in the first place.

Ahhh okay I got ya' now

March 25th, 2015, 05:49 AM	#1
fishdip ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Fish Location: co Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250/300 Posts: A lot.	Why no standard on gear? So all this talk of gear on this site got me thinking why is there no stander for gear like with helmets? __________________________________________________ Hey Unregistered never go faster than your brakes can be applied...

March 25th, 2015, 11:07 AM	#6
Ghostt in your machine Name: Scott Location: Summer Shade, Ky. Join Date: Oct 2014 Motorcycle(s): 98 Ninja 250/F12 aka ZX-2R "SERENITY", 91 Ninja 500/A5 aka ZX-5R "Phoenix", 84 Honda GL1200A "SIREN" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 25 MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15	Yes CE rating is always a good thing. The Europeans seem to be way ahead of us here in the colonies. Even their helmet rating system is more strict I do believe. One must be careful that some jackets have CE armour in the elbows, and shoulders, but only come with a piece of foam for the back. This is a money making scheme to sell you the CE rated back protection. So be sure that in the future you look for the CE armour ratings. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_armor __________________________________________________ *violente et ignorantia* ZX-2R BLOG *Twitter and Instagram = Ghostt_Scott* *I'm not here to change your mind, just to inform.*

March 25th, 2015, 04:16 PM	#7
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March 25th, 2015, 04:19 PM	#8
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March 25th, 2015, 04:23 PM	#9
Ghostt in your machine Name: Scott Location: Summer Shade, Ky. Join Date: Oct 2014 Motorcycle(s): 98 Ninja 250/F12 aka ZX-2R "SERENITY", 91 Ninja 500/A5 aka ZX-5R "Phoenix", 84 Honda GL1200A "SIREN" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 25 MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15	It's a manufacturer standard, not a law like DOT. Some states require a helmet must meet DOT standards to be legal, same as a SNELL APPROVED for tracks etc..... __________________________________________________ *violente et ignorantia* ZX-2R BLOG *Twitter and Instagram = Ghostt_Scott* *I'm not here to change your mind, just to inform.*

March 25th, 2015, 06:09 AM	#2
Flying ninjette.org sage Name: - Location: somewhere cold Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 Posts: 596 Blog Entries: 1	The cost/benefit of a helmet is easy to advertise, much like seatbelts and bicycle helmets. Not as easy with vague rubber armor inserts behind thick nylon and leather. It's easy to see which one legislation will favor.

March 25th, 2015, 06:10 AM	#3
Aufitt The A Team Name: Aufitt Location: Western Australia Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Z50, CB125, RZ500, MC22, R3. Posts: 394	There is European CE certification. CE-2 is where its at now.

March 25th, 2015, 06:12 AM	#4
Flying ninjette.org sage Name: - Location: somewhere cold Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 Posts: 596 Blog Entries: 1	I think the question is asking why the protection offered by a motorcycle jacket as a whole isn't standardized in the same way a helmet is.

March 25th, 2015, 04:25 PM	#10
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	I think you missed the fundamental there... Until there is a min. standard by law that one must adhere to, then there is no need for a standard in the first place. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

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