June 21st, 2010, 06:43 AM | #1 |
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Phase Change Cooling Vest
Anyone on here have one of these?
http://www.motoliberty.com/prod_detail.asp?Prod_ID=784 With temps already near 100 here in TX I've seriously been considering buying one of these. |
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June 21st, 2010, 08:21 AM | #2 |
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I don't know about this one, but several guys I know use similar ones under track suits. The heat here in Central Texas is too much - a cooling vest would be a good idea.
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June 21st, 2010, 11:53 AM | #3 |
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Could have used that this past weekend doing the 24 Hours of Lemons. Air temps were 95, don't even want to know what it was in the car in the nomex.
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June 21st, 2010, 12:28 PM | #4 |
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If I end up getting one of these I will post a review.
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June 21st, 2010, 12:30 PM | #5 |
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Yes. My wife and I have been using them for a few years and they make all the difference!!
In our area the temps stay above 100º for at least three months of the year. It can be very challenging to stay out for any length of time without approaching the conditions for heat prostration. Having these vests allows us to stay ATGATT in comfort. There are a number of web sites that sell phase change vests, you just gotta know what to search for.
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June 22nd, 2010, 06:36 AM | #6 |
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Those phase changers DO look pretty awesome! Not to hijack the thread, BUT. . . .
Anyone have any experience with the evaporative vests? I'm gonna be on the road for a couple weeks, so won't have a way to recharge the phase changers, so I got one of the Evaporative vests. Do these even hold a candle to the Phase Change vests? Are they helpful at ALL in high heat? Mine just arrived today, but it's like 55 degrees and threatening to rain here, so I can't really test it until I get down south in a week. |
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June 22nd, 2010, 07:00 AM | #7 |
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I have a friend that uses one of the evaporative vests. It seems to work for her but she doesn't wear a riding jacket. Plus the clothes she wears under the vest get wet.
It's my understanding that the inserts for the phase change vest can be recharged by putting them in ice water for 20 minutes or the freezer for about 30. I'm thinking if I'm traveling, I could just carry a small collapsible cooler and when I make rest stops I could just get some ice at the convenience store and recharge them while I take a break. |
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June 22nd, 2010, 06:51 PM | #8 |
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We used to ride with some folks that used evaporative vests and the characteristics that I recall are:
1. They're usually only good for 30 minutes or so. Not bad if you're only doing short rides. The phase change vests have these characteristics: 1. They stay cold for at least two hours. It doesn't depend on anything else for it to stay cold. If it's not outrageously hot, they'll last longer.My normal schedule is to work during the week in LA, drive home to the desert first thing Saturday, and then drive back to LA Sunday evening. It's a 300 mile round-trip, so it takes about three hours each direction. During the summer it can get pretty challenging, but since I started using my phase change vest it's not a big deal.
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June 22nd, 2010, 07:15 PM | #9 |
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"4. If you have a spare set of inserts, you're good for another few hours by just swapping out."
Aren't they always on? Like if you have the pack in your vest, and a spare, doesn't the spare just discharge at the same rate as your vest? Or do you activate the packs somehow? I haven't seen anything about activating them on the web anywhere. |
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June 22nd, 2010, 07:38 PM | #10 | |
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June 23rd, 2010, 12:21 AM | #11 |
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And that's all the more insulation you need for it huh? That aint bad!
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June 23rd, 2010, 04:11 AM | #12 |
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Couldn't you just tape or place lunchbox gel coolers under your jacket?
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June 23rd, 2010, 04:25 AM | #13 |
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Hmm, or dry ice maybe.
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The "magic" for phase change vests is not the vest. It's the inserts. The vest is just a convenient way of handling them. Part of the "magic" of phase change is the temperature. The inserts hold consistently at 55ºF to 58ºF until they start to warm up. Your body can handle that temperature with no problems. Dry ice is below -100ºF. (Yes, that's a minus sign in front of the number!) Which is why there's all kinds of silly warnings about handling dry ice. Causes physical damage to your skin & stuff.
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July 2nd, 2010, 07:55 PM | #15 |
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I have an evaporator vest. It was pretty cheap, so I bought it to test it out. It does actually work pretty well. Soak it in cold water and wring it out well and it's ready to go. It will stay cold for at least two hours. When you first put it on, it is really cold and wet. I've only worn it over a tee shirt and under a mesh jacket. What I don't like about it is that it blocks the breeze. Even though it is cool, I still think the breeze feels better when you're moving.
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