Scorpion helment vs HJC?

ai4px · May 18th, 2012, 04:30 AM

One of my coworkers today told me that her scorp 1100 helment has an air bladder in it that seals up tight against her face (and neck??). Does it fill up around your ears or just the lower parts of your face? I've told her before that I rode with ear plugs in and she says she doesn't because of that bladder. Can anyone comment on the wind noise level inside a scorpion 1000 or 1100 (both with air bladder) vs my HJC CL15?

Any comments about 1100 vs 1000 ? I'm in the mood for a helmet an internal visor and it looks like I'd be spending $180-ish anyway... the 1000 scorpion is right on target for that price range.

Thanks.
Wes

ai4px · May 18th, 2012, 04:33 AM

Ohh and any comments about fitting my Sena headset on these helmets too??

csmith12 · May 18th, 2012, 05:18 AM

It will come in around your ears a bit when inflated. I still use the earplug in one ear and ear bud in the other as it didn't seem to make a huge difference to me. I feel nothing around the lower head/face when inflated.

I was riding with HJC dagger and purchased a scorpion 1000.

Internal visor is cool and all, I have used it once just to try it out and though it needed to cover closer or go down farther. But I am that odd guy who likes his visors clear with no sunglasses. You will want to hold out for another opinion there.

93etgocart · May 18th, 2012, 05:26 AM

ive got the exo 500 and it has all the same features as the 1000 and 1100 only not as highly rated and not as much adjustable airflow, and I love it i ride to work and use the visor when I am on my way in. I work nights so it is a huge relief on my eyes as im not really used to the sunlight as much as most people. I paid 230 for it though, the wind noise isnt bad at all also. I would recommend the the 500 which from all my research while i was looking for a new helmet is well worth it.

alex.s · May 18th, 2012, 10:51 AM

i had a scorp 1000. the air bladder is nice, but a helmet that actually fits correctly in the first place is nicer. and if the helmet fits correctly, the air bladder is useless. the flip-down tint visor was great. but it was waaaay too heavy, and way too noisey. i've had a couple HJCs. they fall apart fast IMO. they weren't that heavy but they were noisey as hell and had crappy pads. i wear a shoei rf1100 now and its great. a bit heavier than i would like but its pretty quiet, super cozy, fits my head well and has good cooling

leed · May 19th, 2012, 08:03 AM

Agreed. A helmet that fits well to begin with is the best place to start. Having been said, it is to my understanding that the air-fit system is not designed to remedy that issue. You still size the helmet based on how well the shell conforms to your noggin, the cheekpads are merely just a fine tuning of the remainder. It's the same reason Arai and Shoei custom fit the helmet by changing out several cheekpads and the like. Your cheeks aren't what you're trying to protect (though to some extent you are), it's your brain.

LoD575 · May 21st, 2012, 09:02 AM

I use a 750 which has the air bladder system but not the internal visor system.

ECE instead of SNELL.

Helmet size of small fits my crown perfectly. I used x-small cheek pads to provide a firmer fit along the cheek bones. The only time I still inflate the air bladders is highway riding

I have no complaints about the helmet which replaced a Shoei Z-II

May 18th, 2012, 04:30 AM	#1
ai4px ninjette.org sage Name: Wes Location: Sumter SC Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 650r 2009 Vulcan 800 2005 Posts: 557	Scorpion helment vs HJC? One of my coworkers today told me that her scorp 1100 helment has an air bladder in it that seals up tight against her face (and neck??). Does it fill up around your ears or just the lower parts of your face? I've told her before that I rode with ear plugs in and she says she doesn't because of that bladder. Can anyone comment on the wind noise level inside a scorpion 1000 or 1100 (both with air bladder) vs my HJC CL15? Any comments about 1100 vs 1000 ? I'm in the mood for a helmet an internal visor and it looks like I'd be spending $180-ish anyway... the 1000 scorpion is right on target for that price range. Thanks. Wes

May 18th, 2012, 05:18 AM	#3
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	It will come in around your ears a bit when inflated. I still use the earplug in one ear and ear bud in the other as it didn't seem to make a huge difference to me. I feel nothing around the lower head/face when inflated. I was riding with HJC dagger and purchased a scorpion 1000. Internal visor is cool and all, I have used it once just to try it out and though it needed to cover closer or go down farther. But I am that odd guy who likes his visors clear with no sunglasses. You will want to hold out for another opinion there. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

May 18th, 2012, 10:51 AM	#5
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	i had a scorp 1000. the air bladder is nice, but a helmet that actually fits correctly in the first place is nicer. and if the helmet fits correctly, the air bladder is useless. the flip-down tint visor was great. but it was waaaay too heavy, and way too noisey. i've had a couple HJCs. they fall apart fast IMO. they weren't that heavy but they were noisey as hell and had crappy pads. i wear a shoei rf1100 now and its great. a bit heavier than i would like but its pretty quiet, super cozy, fits my head well and has good cooling __________________________________________________

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May 18th, 2012, 04:33 AM	#2
ai4px ninjette.org sage Name: Wes Location: Sumter SC Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 650r 2009 Vulcan 800 2005 Posts: 557	Ohh and any comments about fitting my Sena headset on these helmets too??

May 18th, 2012, 05:26 AM	#4
93etgocart ninjette.org member Name: dennis Location: swmo Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Honda Shadow, 2008 ninja 250 Posts: 237	ive got the exo 500 and it has all the same features as the 1000 and 1100 only not as highly rated and not as much adjustable airflow, and I love it i ride to work and use the visor when I am on my way in. I work nights so it is a huge relief on my eyes as im not really used to the sunlight as much as most people. I paid 230 for it though, the wind noise isnt bad at all also. I would recommend the the 500 which from all my research while i was looking for a new helmet is well worth it.

May 19th, 2012, 08:03 AM	#6
leed ninjette.org sage Name: David Location: Loves Park, IL Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): Time will tell Posts: 969	Agreed. A helmet that fits well to begin with is the best place to start. Having been said, it is to my understanding that the air-fit system is not designed to remedy that issue. You still size the helmet based on how well the shell conforms to your noggin, the cheekpads are merely just a fine tuning of the remainder. It's the same reason Arai and Shoei custom fit the helmet by changing out several cheekpads and the like. Your cheeks aren't what you're trying to protect (though to some extent you are), it's your brain.

May 21st, 2012, 09:02 AM	#7
LoD575 ninjette.org sage Name: Steve Location: Valdosta GA, US Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 2006 Ninja ZX6R-636 Posts: 661	I use a 750 which has the air bladder system but not the internal visor system. ECE instead of SNELL. Helmet size of small fits my crown perfectly. I used x-small cheek pads to provide a firmer fit along the cheek bones. The only time I still inflate the air bladders is highway riding I have no complaints about the helmet which replaced a Shoei Z-II