2001 Ninja 250 - Won't start

AGFE0914 · April 10th, 2013, 02:27 PM

Sat all winter, just put new battery in and it won't start. Any suggestions on what it might be? It was runnig fine last year, I'm so sad.

quarterliter · April 10th, 2013, 02:36 PM

Did you drain the gas out of the carburetors? Or put any stabil or seafoam in the gas? If not chances are you need to remove the carbs and clean them. And the gas in the tank is junk so you need to drain it and get some new stuff. 87 octane w/o ethanol is the best.

DaBlue1 · April 10th, 2013, 02:48 PM

AGFE0914 · April 10th, 2013, 04:42 PM

Thanks! Going to take it to the shop tomorrow so I can get it tuned up since I haven't done anything to it since I got it.

quarterliter · April 10th, 2013, 04:49 PM

aghhh the stealership.....you should try doing it yourself. Its not bad at all. Just a little time consuming.

quicklooker · April 11th, 2013, 10:46 AM

I second doing it yourself. It's not as bad as you might think. I've cleaned an extra pair of carbs just for fun once.

The stealership will charge you upwards of $150 to clean it out. I don't think it's worth even $50.

AGFE0914 · April 11th, 2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by quicklooker

I second doing it yourself. It's not as bad as you might think. I've cleaned an extra pair of carbs just for fun once.

The stealership will charge you upwards of $150 to clean it out. I don't think it's worth even $50.

The only thing is it is raining, I don't have a garage and I don't have that much time and I am in need of a tune up anyway.

I really want to get to know my bike and be able to fix these things myself but at the same time I want to ride ASAP and think taking it to a shop would make me get on quicker.

Lychee · April 11th, 2013, 10:55 AM

have you tried a bump start? Just to be sure the "new" battery is actually charged.

quicklooker · April 11th, 2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AGFE0914

The only thing is it is raining, I don't have a garage and I don't have that much time and I am in need of a tune up anyway.

I really want to get to know my bike and be able to fix these things myself but at the same time I want to ride ASAP and think taking it to a shop would make me get on quicker.

I don't blame ya and can totally understand your position. I would just take it then if you don't mind the cost.

aeroblade · April 11th, 2013, 11:10 AM

Can you hear the starting motor churn when you press the start button? If no, then dead battery or faulty wiring, if yes, then as many have already pointed it out to you, your carbs need cleaning.

AGFE0914 · April 11th, 2013, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by aeroblade

Can you hear the starting motor churn when you press the start button? If no, then dead battery or faulty wiring, if yes, then as many have already pointed it out to you, your carbs need cleaning.

Think it's the carbs, the battery is brand new fully charged. IT sounds like it wants to start, I feel so sad when she doesn't make it.

Like my baby is choking

AGFE0914 · April 11th, 2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by quicklooker

I don't blame ya and can totally understand your position. I would just take it then if you don't mind the cost.

I'm rich so money is nothing

I'm sooooooo joking right now.

I am more excited about getting on my bike and practicing A.S.A.P. so I am paying for the convenience and accept that I will be getting raped vs. being smart and doing it myself

CC Cowboy · April 11th, 2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AGFE0914

I'm rich so money is nothing

I'm sooooooo joking right now.

I am more excited about getting on my bike and practicing A.S.A.P. so I am paying for the convenience and accept that I will be getting raped vs. being smart and doing it myself

B/f, isn't that what they are for?

AGFE0914 · April 11th, 2013, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

B/f, isn't that what they are for?

My fiance is new to bikes too and isn't feeling this weather. Now if it was a car different story.

CC Cowboy · April 11th, 2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AGFE0914

My fiance is new to bikes too and isn't feeling this weather. Now if it was a car different story.

Change that to financier and problem solved.

SemperFudge · April 11th, 2013, 01:41 PM

my 01 ninja sat for 4 months with 6 month old gas (albeit with techron), accidentally left the petcock on, and not trickle charged or covered with a tarp and it started up like a champ.

i want to say dirty carbs its unlikely. i feel that the engine may not be getting fuel.

AGFE0914 · April 11th, 2013, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SemperFudge

my 01 ninja sat for 4 months with 6 month old gas (albeit with techron), accidentally left the petcock on, and not trickle charged or covered with a tarp and it started up like a champ.

i want to say dirty carbs its unlikely. i feel that the engine may not be getting fuel.

Thanks Paul. Only time will tell....and I am hoping that means I will know what's going, have it fixed, and riding be in the next few days.

AGFE0914 · April 11th, 2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lychee

have you tried a bump start? Just to be sure the "new" battery is actually charged.

New battery - fully charged. :/

quarterliter · April 11th, 2013, 02:56 PM

The jets are definitely gummed up. Stabil or seafoam might have saved you. But if anyone you know has a clue with tools you could put some new tires on your bike with the money youd save. I hope you don't still have the stockers on.

AGFE0914 · April 11th, 2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by quarterliter

The jets are definitely gummed up. Stabil or seafoam might have saved you. But if anyone you know has a clue with tools you could put some new tires on your bike with the money youd save. I hope you don't still have the stockers on.

Hi Kevin,

How long would this take (not trying at all to sound like an impatient bi-atch)? Isn't it good to get a tune up anyway? I am sure doing this myself is the best answer as all you experienced bikers have proven. I need to learn about my bike, I don't know what stockers are

quarterliter · April 11th, 2013, 03:03 PM

Do you have fresh oil in your baby? Shell Rotella T6 is the way to go btw

AGFE0914 · April 11th, 2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by quarterliter

Do you have fresh oil in your baby? Shell Rotella T6 is the way to go btw

My baby has been sitting since October, I have neglected her and probably deserve this.
Nothing new except for a battery 2 days ago.

quarterliter · April 11th, 2013, 03:20 PM

Its cheap too. Full synthetic and its only 5 bucks a quart at walmart. Its a blue bottle and can buy it by the gallon.

Lychee · April 11th, 2013, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AGFE0914

Hi Kevin,

How long would this take (not trying at all to sound like an impatient bi-atch)? Isn't it good to get a tune up anyway? I am sure doing this myself is the best answer as all you experienced bikers have proven. I need to learn about my bike, I don't know what stockers are

A competent mechanic would have the carburetors cleaned in a few hours. Much of the work in this job is removing the fairings to get the carburetor out. If you want them to do a full tune up, valve job, sync and all, maybe a whole day plus whatever time they need to clean out the queue in front of you.

Stockers = stock tires in this context.

quarterliter · April 11th, 2013, 05:29 PM

Stock tires are junk.... don't ride on em. I have more confidence in the knobbies on my dirt bike in sand. And if there from 2001 don't even get me started haha.....

quarterliter · April 11th, 2013, 05:37 PM

Also do you have gear? I would recommend taking your bike to a wide open parking lot and practicing stopping and starting with the clutch. Also practice stopping with the front brake. Any serious racer or street rider alike use the front almost exclusively.

AGFE0914 · April 11th, 2013, 05:40 PM

Yeah I have gear. Helmet, padded jacket and boots. last year I only got to go to the lot a few time but its close by. I'll be there for a few weeks practicing.

quarterliter · April 11th, 2013, 05:44 PM

Hope ya got gloves too! Grinding through a wrist or finger is not fun. Neither is picking rocks out of the wound trust me on that

AGFE0914 · April 11th, 2013, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by quarterliter

Hope ya got gloves too! Grinding through a wrist or finger is not fun. Neither is picking rocks out of the wound trust me on that

Yup gloves too

April 10th, 2013, 02:27 PM	#1
AGFE0914 ninjette.org member Name: Anju Location: Boston Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: 77	2001 Ninja 250 - Won't start Sat all winter, just put new battery in and it won't start. Any suggestions on what it might be? It was runnig fine last year, I'm so sad.

April 11th, 2013, 10:55 AM	#8
Lychee sail away Name: Jon Location: San Jose Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): gixxer (sold), ninjette (upgrade!) Posts: 964 Blog Entries: 8	have you tried a bump start? Just to be sure the "new" battery is actually charged. __________________________________________________ Unregistered found this post helpful. Track Day Preparation Checklist 1. Financial 2. Mental 3. Physical 4. Gear / Bike

April 11th, 2013, 11:10 AM	#10
aeroblade Doh! Name: Matt Location: Locating GPS... Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r Posts: 286	Can you hear the starting motor churn when you press the start button? If no, then dead battery or faulty wiring, if yes, then as many have already pointed it out to you, your carbs need cleaning. __________________________________________________

April 11th, 2013, 01:41 PM	#16
SemperFudge ninjette.org member Name: Paul Location: Orange County/Inland Empire - CA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2001 Ninja 250R Posts: 126	my 01 ninja sat for 4 months with 6 month old gas (albeit with techron), accidentally left the petcock on, and not trickle charged or covered with a tarp and it started up like a champ. i want to say dirty carbs its unlikely. i feel that the engine may not be getting fuel. __________________________________________________ View my log here. you can tell a lot about how it was treated by how the previous owner looks - Joshorilla

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April 10th, 2013, 02:36 PM	#2
quarterliter ninjette.org guru Name: Kevin Location: Madison Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250 Posts: 465	Did you drain the gas out of the carburetors? Or put any stabil or seafoam in the gas? If not chances are you need to remove the carbs and clean them. And the gas in the tank is junk so you need to drain it and get some new stuff. 87 octane w/o ethanol is the best.

April 10th, 2013, 02:48 PM	#3
DaBlue1 Long Time Rider Name: Blue Location: Charlotte, NC Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.

April 10th, 2013, 04:42 PM	#4
AGFE0914 ninjette.org member Name: Anju Location: Boston Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: 77	Thanks! Going to take it to the shop tomorrow so I can get it tuned up since I haven't done anything to it since I got it.

April 10th, 2013, 04:49 PM	#5
quarterliter ninjette.org guru Name: Kevin Location: Madison Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250 Posts: 465	aghhh the stealership.....you should try doing it yourself. Its not bad at all. Just a little time consuming.

April 11th, 2013, 10:46 AM	#6
quicklooker ninjette.org member Name: J Location: Dallas Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R '07 Posts: 81	I second doing it yourself. It's not as bad as you might think. I've cleaned an extra pair of carbs just for fun once. The stealership will charge you upwards of $150 to clean it out. I don't think it's worth even $50.

April 11th, 2013, 02:56 PM	#19
quarterliter ninjette.org guru Name: Kevin Location: Madison Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250 Posts: 465	The jets are definitely gummed up. Stabil or seafoam might have saved you. But if anyone you know has a clue with tools you could put some new tires on your bike with the money youd save. I hope you don't still have the stockers on.

April 11th, 2013, 03:03 PM	#21
quarterliter ninjette.org guru Name: Kevin Location: Madison Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250 Posts: 465	Do you have fresh oil in your baby? Shell Rotella T6 is the way to go btw

April 11th, 2013, 03:20 PM	#23
quarterliter ninjette.org guru Name: Kevin Location: Madison Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250 Posts: 465	Its cheap too. Full synthetic and its only 5 bucks a quart at walmart. Its a blue bottle and can buy it by the gallon.

April 11th, 2013, 05:29 PM	#25
quarterliter ninjette.org guru Name: Kevin Location: Madison Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250 Posts: 465	Stock tires are junk.... don't ride on em. I have more confidence in the knobbies on my dirt bike in sand. And if there from 2001 don't even get me started haha.....

April 11th, 2013, 05:37 PM	#26
quarterliter ninjette.org guru Name: Kevin Location: Madison Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250 Posts: 465	Also do you have gear? I would recommend taking your bike to a wide open parking lot and practicing stopping and starting with the clutch. Also practice stopping with the front brake. Any serious racer or street rider alike use the front almost exclusively.

April 11th, 2013, 05:40 PM	#27
AGFE0914 ninjette.org member Name: Anju Location: Boston Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: 77	Yeah I have gear. Helmet, padded jacket and boots. last year I only got to go to the lot a few time but its close by. I'll be there for a few weeks practicing.

April 11th, 2013, 05:44 PM	#28
quarterliter ninjette.org guru Name: Kevin Location: Madison Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250 Posts: 465	Hope ya got gloves too! Grinding through a wrist or finger is not fun. Neither is picking rocks out of the wound trust me on that