Opinions on Kevlar laced riding jeans?

Roark · October 7th, 2014, 05:37 PM

Uses: Low speed, short distance errands and commuting the 4 miles to school. NO highway and nothing more than 5-6 minutes away.

Opinions I've gathered so far: "no"

Anybody have experience with kevlar laced/lined jeans?
Any accidents to report their functionality?

Jono · October 7th, 2014, 09:27 PM

I'm sure they would offer good protection for those situations if you get some with CE armor in the knees. Obviously they arent as protective as leather but I wouldn't wear leather pants in that situation anyways.

In my experience when you go down on the street, your knees are going to take the biggest impact so it's nice to have some armor over them.

SteveL · October 8th, 2014, 12:47 AM

I have Kevlar strengthened jeans with CE armor that I use in summer far too hot for anything else. They would protect your knees from the first impact and the rest of your skin for a few seconds a lot more than normal jeans. It's always a compromise full race leathers on a road bike in 100 plus temperatures is something I would not want to do.
Steve

Roark · October 8th, 2014, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

I'm sure they would offer good protection for those situations if you get some with CE armor in the knees. Obviously they arent as protective as leather but I wouldn't wear leather pants in that situation anyways.

In my experience when you go down on the street, your knees are going to take the biggest impact so it's nice to have some armor over them.

Yeah, that'd be an absolute must.. CE in knees and hips if optional.

Roark · October 8th, 2014, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveL

I have Kevlar strengthened jeans with CE armor that I use in summer far too hot for anything else. They would protect your knees from the first impact and the rest of your skin for a few seconds a lot more than normal jeans. It's always a compromise full race leathers on a road bike in 100 plus temperatures is something I would not want to do.
Steve

But the question is..would you trust them at low speeds in the summer time?

Brother Michigan · October 8th, 2014, 11:51 AM

Better than denim, not as good as some textiles or leather. If you're more likely to use them than so-called "real" riding pants, go for it. Leather pants do you no good if you deem them too much of a hassle to wear them.

EMSRacer07 · October 8th, 2014, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roark

But the question is..would you trust them at low speeds in the summer time?

Mine held up in a low speed situation. I went about 20 feet from 40mph and didnt go through the kevlar. I wear knee guards underneath though for extra safety.

Roark · October 8th, 2014, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EMSRacer07

Mine held up in a low speed situation. I went about 20 feet from 40mph and didnt go through the kevlar. I wear knee guards underneath though for extra safety.

good info, here. thank you, sir

alex.s · October 8th, 2014, 12:10 PM

i wear 120d cotton denim made for skateboarding. its good for crashes up to 35mph. above that i wear only leather. i've crashed in these type of jeans 3 times now. never had any issues with them. aramid doesn't burn and is a good short term thermal barrier. but after 10 seconds of sliding it melts. so in my mind, if strong jeans aren't good enough for the speed you'll be driving, wear leather. imo.

Roark · October 8th, 2014, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Michigan

Better than denim, not as good as some textiles or leather. If you're more likely to use them than so-called "real" riding pants, go for it. Leather pants do you no good if you deem them too much of a hassle to wear them.

Leathers are awesome for protection. But, I live in a town where outer limit to outer limit is 3-4 miles of 30-40mph roads. Leathers just aren't practical!

However, when I go into the city or on longer trips, I'll have leathers unless it's raining NO DOUBT!

Roark · October 8th, 2014, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

i wear 120d cotton denim made for skateboarding. its good for crashes up to 35mph. above that i wear only leather. i've crashed in these type of jeans 3 times now. never had any issues with them. aramid doesn't burn and is a good short term thermal barrier. but after 10 seconds of sliding it melts. so in my mind, if strong jeans aren't good enough for the speed you'll be driving, wear leather. imo.

How much did your particular pair cost? (if that's not an invasive question..)

Thank you for the input, @alex.s

alex.s · October 8th, 2014, 12:33 PM

i donno. they were a gift from my brother. they are made by circa.

LittleRedNinjette · October 8th, 2014, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

i wear 120d cotton denim made for skateboarding. its good for crashes up to 35mph. above that i wear only leather. i've crashed in these type of jeans 3 times now. never had any issues with them. aramid doesn't burn and is a good short term thermal barrier. but after 10 seconds of sliding it melts. so in my mind, if strong jeans aren't good enough for the speed you'll be driving, wear leather. imo.

Any links to those paints? I need some better paints but they just don't seem to make my size in motorcycle pants.

Are they like carhartts?

indomie · October 8th, 2014, 12:38 PM

I have draggin jeans that i use for commuting everyday. i have the slim version and have knee and hip armor as well. i feel protected if i go down. i heard that some textiles arent even that good. it all depends on who makes the item etc...etc..
and of course...leather is better. ha

alex.s · October 8th, 2014, 12:39 PM

trying to find the circa jeans i wear.... it looks like circa might have gone out of business though??? can't find anyone who still sells them.

LittleRedNinjette · October 8th, 2014, 12:53 PM

Holy crap draggin jeans has my size.. kinda. looks like i would have to hem them.

JohnnyBravo · October 8th, 2014, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleRedNinjette

Any links to those paints? I need some better paints but they just don't seem to make my size in motorcycle pants.

Are they like carhartts?

I need some new paints too... Mostly Kawi lime

Roark · October 8th, 2014, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleRedNinjette

Any links to those paints? I need some better paints but they just don't seem to make my size in motorcycle pants.

Are they like carhartts?

Carhartt's are advertised at 12 oz denim. A good pair of riding jeans should be 12 oz or higher:

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/a...t-riding-jeans

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/revit-vendome-jeans

With the same denim rating PLUS the added poly/kevlar AND CE pads, riding jeans should outperform Carhartt.

JohnnyBravo · October 8th, 2014, 12:55 PM

Sorry sorry... On topic - I have no problem wearin my race leathers in any weather... They flow air like a booty at a chili cook off

I also have some icon over pants that flow more air than them, but I don't have much faith in mesh, but enough to wear them at the speeds you are talking

LittleRedNinjette · October 8th, 2014, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roark

Carhartt's are advertised at 12 oz denim. A good pair of riding jeans should be 12 oz or higher:

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/a...t-riding-jeans

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/revit-vendome-jeans

With the same denim rating PLUS the added poly/kevlar AND CE pads, riding jeans should outperform Carhartt.

The problem i always have with riding pants/jeans is i'm a short fat chick... Most companies do not believe short fat chicks ride. So i can never find the correct size.

I just ordered the draggin jeans so i'll see how they fit.

Roark · October 8th, 2014, 01:38 PM

I won't venture to guess your bodily shape

But, fit permitting, this review speaks very highly of the REV'IT Madison Pants for Women:

https://rideapart.com/articles/which...should-you-buy

The pants themselves: http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/r...-madison-jeans

Roark · October 8th, 2014, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

Sorry sorry... On topic - I have no problem wearin my race leathers in any weather... They flow air like a booty at a chili cook off

I also have some icon over pants that flow more air than them, but I don't have much faith in mesh, but enough to wear them at the speeds you are talking

See, it's not so much weather that is the concern. Imagine this:

Hop on the bike and ride out of the neighborhood onto a 30 mph two-lane road. Travel 2 miles and you're surrounded by the entirety of the town while still on this two lane road. Turn around and travel 2 miles back home.

Leathers are awesome! But for those little trips to Walgreens or to McDonald's, looking and feeling like a Power Ranger just isn't feasible.

Albeit, the chili booty simile is something to think about

JohnnyBravo · October 8th, 2014, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roark

See, it's not so much weather that is the concern. Imagine this:

Hop on the bike and ride out of the neighborhood onto a 30 mph two-lane road. Travel 2 miles and you're surrounded by the entirety of the town while still on this two lane road. Turn around and travel 2 miles back home.

Leathers are awesome! But for those little trips to Walgreens or to McDonald's, looking and feeling like a Power Ranger just isn't feasible.

Albeit, the chili booty simile is something to think about

I throw my over pants on over shorts... In fact that's how I'm sitting now at my moms. They go over most reasonable clothes, and dont break the bank... So you won't have to change pants or anything, an they Gots knee armors

LittleRedNinjette · October 8th, 2014, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roark

I won't venture to guess your bodily shape

But, fit permitting, this review speaks very highly of the REV'IT Madison Pants for Women:

https://rideapart.com/articles/which...should-you-buy

The pants themselves: http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/r...-madison-jeans

Great link with the info!

SteveL · October 9th, 2014, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roark

But the question is..would you trust them at low speeds in the summer time?

I do through the summer

Steve

ForceofWill · October 9th, 2014, 04:21 AM

I recently bought a pair of Dainese D1's that I wear for commuting and such. I have the Delta pro leather pants that zip to my jacket that I've worn for a couple years as well.

The leathers are awesome and extremely comfortable to ride in but they're definitely not very comfortable to walk around in. They're formed already bent at the knees so the armor and leather bunch up when you're standing. The D1 pants seem really quality and I'm putting trust in them if I go down. The knee "armor" they come with is a joke though. It's a little flappy honeycomb piece of rubber in the pocket lol.

I was mainly worried about my jacket riding up with them so I got one of these.

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dainese-union-belt

Roark · October 9th, 2014, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceofWill

I recently bought a pair of Dainese D1's that I wear for commuting and such. I have the Delta pro leather pants that zip to my jacket that I've worn for a couple years as well.

The leathers are awesome and extremely comfortable to ride in but they're definitely not very comfortable to walk around in. They're formed already bent at the knees so the armor and leather bunch up when you're standing. The D1 pants seem really quality and I'm putting trust in them if I go down. The knee "armor" they come with is a joke though. It's a little flappy honeycomb piece of rubber in the pocket lol.

I was mainly worried about my jacket riding up with them so I got one of these.

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dainese-union-belt

Is the knee armor upgrade able though? Or is it just integrated?

LittleRedNinjette · October 9th, 2014, 11:31 AM

The draggin jeans can be ordered with the knee and hip protection. I opted for the knee but not the hip.

indomie · October 9th, 2014, 11:34 AM

I purchased both the knee and the hip...the part that sucks is that it is only attached by velcro. i can see that being a problem if the regular jeans were ordered. i have the slim and the pants hug my leg so the knee pads stay put.
the hips...i just stuff em in.

LittleRedNinjette · October 9th, 2014, 11:40 AM

Oh, i just assumed the jeans had pockets for them...

ForceofWill · October 9th, 2014, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roark

Is the knee armor upgrade able though? Or is it just integrated?

It's a pocket on the inside of the pant at the knee. You could put another piece of armor in there although you'd have to cut it to fit.

indomie · October 9th, 2014, 02:20 PM

no sorry the draggin ones do not for some weird reason. sorry i didnt mention that before.

LittleRedNinjette · October 9th, 2014, 05:51 PM

I should have read it. No biggie. I'm sure they will be fine.

Bigballsofpaint · October 10th, 2014, 07:16 AM

i wear draykos anytime im on the bike. survived my 40mph lowside without a problem, i still wear the same pair too. No armor in the ones i have. I think they have a higher model now though with armor.

Roark · October 17th, 2014, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigballsofpaint

i wear draykos anytime im on the bike. survived my 40mph lowside without a problem, i still wear the same pair too. No armor in the ones i have. I think they have a higher model now though with armor.

This is good

LittleRedNinjette · October 17th, 2014, 05:49 AM

Got the draggin jeans. Overall i like them. Only complaint is the knee armor sticks uncomfortably to my knee. I'll have to make some kind of fabric cover for it.

Linkin · October 18th, 2014, 05:17 PM

I have a pair of Drayko's that I lowsided in, my knee didn't fair too well as the bike was on top of me, sliding along the gravel.

For any serious riding wear leathers or textiles. I wear my new set of RJays kevlars for commuting, and underneath the textile pair I have

Roark · October 19th, 2014, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleRedNinjette

Got the draggin jeans. Overall i like them. Only complaint is the knee armor sticks uncomfortably to my knee. I'll have to make some kind of fabric cover for it.

Did they fit properly?

Roark · October 19th, 2014, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkin

I have a pair of Drayko's that I lowsided in, my knee didn't fair too well as the bike was on top of me, sliding along the gravel.

For any serious riding wear leathers or textiles. I wear my new set of RJays kevlars for commuting, and underneath the textile pair I have

Seems like that would be a little bulky!

Good info, though

dcj13 · October 19th, 2014, 05:04 PM

Is Kevlar a requirement for your Jeans? Kevlar (aramid) sounds cool because it's used in bullet-proof vests, but it's not as good as Cordura Nylon in resistance to abrasion.

Aerostich makes their Protek line of semi-protected riding jeans: heavier-than-normal denim, double thick in butt (plus pockets), with zippered pockets for their proprietary knee pads.

I've got a couple of pairs. Comfortable, better padding in the knees than my Joe Rocket overpants, but no hip padding.

October 7th, 2014, 05:37 PM	#1
Roark ninjette.org sage Name: James Location: Lakeland Join Date: Aug 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninjette Posts: 809	Opinions on Kevlar laced riding jeans? Uses: Low speed, short distance errands and commuting the 4 miles to school. NO highway and nothing more than 5-6 minutes away. Opinions I've gathered so far: "no" Anybody have experience with kevlar laced/lined jeans? Any accidents to report their functionality? __________________________________________________ "That's what" -she

October 8th, 2014, 12:47 AM	#3
SteveL old git Name: Steve Location: Geneve Switzerland Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): BMW K1300S Posts: 479	I have Kevlar strengthened jeans with CE armor that I use in summer far too hot for anything else. They would protect your knees from the first impact and the rest of your skin for a few seconds a lot more than normal jeans. It's always a compromise full race leathers on a road bike in 100 plus temperatures is something I would not want to do. Steve __________________________________________________ Some mistakes are too much fun to make only once.

October 8th, 2014, 11:51 AM	#6
Brother Michigan ninjette.org sage Name: Aaron Location: Winder, GA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 718	Better than denim, not as good as some textiles or leather. If you're more likely to use them than so-called "real" riding pants, go for it. Leather pants do you no good if you deem them too much of a hassle to wear them. __________________________________________________ DISCLAIMER: I generally have no idea what I'm talking about.

October 8th, 2014, 12:10 PM	#9
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	i wear 120d cotton denim made for skateboarding. its good for crashes up to 35mph. above that i wear only leather. i've crashed in these type of jeans 3 times now. never had any issues with them. aramid doesn't burn and is a good short term thermal barrier. but after 10 seconds of sliding it melts. so in my mind, if strong jeans aren't good enough for the speed you'll be driving, wear leather. imo. __________________________________________________
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October 8th, 2014, 12:33 PM	#12
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	i donno. they were a gift from my brother. they are made by circa. __________________________________________________

October 7th, 2014, 09:27 PM	#2
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	I'm sure they would offer good protection for those situations if you get some with CE armor in the knees. Obviously they arent as protective as leather but I wouldn't wear leather pants in that situation anyways. In my experience when you go down on the street, your knees are going to take the biggest impact so it's nice to have some armor over them.

October 8th, 2014, 12:38 PM	#14
indomie ninjette.org member Name: danny Location: Austin, tx Join Date: Aug 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2013 636 Posts: 55	I have draggin jeans that i use for commuting everyday. i have the slim version and have knee and hip armor as well. i feel protected if i go down. i heard that some textiles arent even that good. it all depends on who makes the item etc...etc.. and of course...leather is better. ha

October 8th, 2014, 12:39 PM	#15
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	trying to find the circa jeans i wear.... it looks like circa might have gone out of business though??? can't find anyone who still sells them. __________________________________________________

October 8th, 2014, 12:53 PM	#16
LittleRedNinjette Certified Troublemaker Name: Teri Location: Hamilton, NJ Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250r "Pikachu", 2017 Ninja 650 "Epona" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Aug '13, Aug '14, Feb '17	Holy crap draggin jeans has my size.. kinda. looks like i would have to hem them. __________________________________________________ Raven's Rejuvenation A bruise is a lesson... and each lesson makes us better...

October 8th, 2014, 12:55 PM	#19
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	Sorry sorry... On topic - I have no problem wearin my race leathers in any weather... They flow air like a booty at a chili cook off I also have some icon over pants that flow more air than them, but I don't have much faith in mesh, but enough to wear them at the speeds you are talking __________________________________________________

October 8th, 2014, 01:38 PM	#21
Roark ninjette.org sage Name: James Location: Lakeland Join Date: Aug 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninjette Posts: 809	I won't venture to guess your bodily shape But, fit permitting, this review speaks very highly of the REV'IT Madison Pants for Women: https://rideapart.com/articles/which...should-you-buy The pants themselves: http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/r...-madison-jeans __________________________________________________ "That's what" -she
	1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.

October 9th, 2014, 04:21 AM	#26
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	I recently bought a pair of Dainese D1's that I wear for commuting and such. I have the Delta pro leather pants that zip to my jacket that I've worn for a couple years as well. The leathers are awesome and extremely comfortable to ride in but they're definitely not very comfortable to walk around in. They're formed already bent at the knees so the armor and leather bunch up when you're standing. The D1 pants seem really quality and I'm putting trust in them if I go down. The knee "armor" they come with is a joke though. It's a little flappy honeycomb piece of rubber in the pocket lol. I was mainly worried about my jacket riding up with them so I got one of these. http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dainese-union-belt

October 9th, 2014, 11:31 AM	#28
LittleRedNinjette Certified Troublemaker Name: Teri Location: Hamilton, NJ Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250r "Pikachu", 2017 Ninja 650 "Epona" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Aug '13, Aug '14, Feb '17	The draggin jeans can be ordered with the knee and hip protection. I opted for the knee but not the hip. __________________________________________________ Raven's Rejuvenation A bruise is a lesson... and each lesson makes us better...

October 9th, 2014, 11:34 AM	#29
indomie ninjette.org member Name: danny Location: Austin, tx Join Date: Aug 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2013 636 Posts: 55	I purchased both the knee and the hip...the part that sucks is that it is only attached by velcro. i can see that being a problem if the regular jeans were ordered. i have the slim and the pants hug my leg so the knee pads stay put. the hips...i just stuff em in.

October 9th, 2014, 11:40 AM	#30
LittleRedNinjette Certified Troublemaker Name: Teri Location: Hamilton, NJ Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250r "Pikachu", 2017 Ninja 650 "Epona" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Aug '13, Aug '14, Feb '17	Oh, i just assumed the jeans had pockets for them... __________________________________________________ Raven's Rejuvenation A bruise is a lesson... and each lesson makes us better...

October 9th, 2014, 02:20 PM	#32
indomie ninjette.org member Name: danny Location: Austin, tx Join Date: Aug 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2013 636 Posts: 55	no sorry the draggin ones do not for some weird reason. sorry i didnt mention that before.

October 9th, 2014, 05:51 PM	#33
LittleRedNinjette Certified Troublemaker Name: Teri Location: Hamilton, NJ Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250r "Pikachu", 2017 Ninja 650 "Epona" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Aug '13, Aug '14, Feb '17	I should have read it. No biggie. I'm sure they will be fine. __________________________________________________ Raven's Rejuvenation A bruise is a lesson... and each lesson makes us better...

October 10th, 2014, 07:16 AM	#34
Bigballsofpaint ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jay Location: CT Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2015 636 ABS - 69 Honda 305 Posts: A lot.	i wear draykos anytime im on the bike. survived my 40mph lowside without a problem, i still wear the same pair too. No armor in the ones i have. I think they have a higher model now though with armor.

October 17th, 2014, 05:49 AM	#36
LittleRedNinjette Certified Troublemaker Name: Teri Location: Hamilton, NJ Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250r "Pikachu", 2017 Ninja 650 "Epona" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Aug '13, Aug '14, Feb '17	Got the draggin jeans. Overall i like them. Only complaint is the knee armor sticks uncomfortably to my knee. I'll have to make some kind of fabric cover for it. __________________________________________________ Raven's Rejuvenation A bruise is a lesson... and each lesson makes us better...

October 18th, 2014, 05:17 PM	#37
Linkin Down Under Name: Linkin Location: Sydney, Australia Join Date: Jun 2014 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki ZXR250C Ninja Posts: 296	I have a pair of Drayko's that I lowsided in, my knee didn't fair too well as the bike was on top of me, sliding along the gravel. For any serious riding wear leathers or textiles. I wear my new set of RJays kevlars for commuting, and underneath the textile pair I have

October 19th, 2014, 05:04 PM	#40
dcj13 Participant Name: Dave Location: South of Seattle Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): '94 K75 std Posts: Too much. MOTM - Aug '15	Is Kevlar a requirement for your Jeans? Kevlar (aramid) sounds cool because it's used in bullet-proof vests, but it's not as good as Cordura Nylon in resistance to abrasion. Aerostich makes their Protek line of semi-protected riding jeans: heavier-than-normal denim, double thick in butt (plus pockets), with zippered pockets for their proprietary knee pads. I've got a couple of pairs. Comfortable, better padding in the knees than my Joe Rocket overpants, but no hip padding.

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