Minikin_Jo's Crash - Page 2

alex.s · November 24th, 2012, 12:33 PM

Body position. You account for a third of the bikes weight... Use it

Edit: maybe only a quarter since you are concentrate

I wouldn't worry about it too much. We have all had our noob bike moments where we wind up tossing our bike down the road. Just learn what you can, don't let it get you down. Focus on getting healthy again and getting your bike

alex.s · November 24th, 2012, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneRonin

Unless you're a tard you'll never ride as hard on the street as you do on track.

There are specific cases where that is not true.

In fact, pretty much the first sign of danger, I switch to 'track mode' gun it and run it. Road ragers, drunks, teenage testers... Dangers aren't to be ****ed with on a bike so just gtfo

tnr4 · November 24th, 2012, 12:50 PM

Late to the game, but sorry to hear this Jo! But very glad to hear that you made it out in one piece.

Heal up and rest up, and let's start a MD 300 club next season!

Sirref · November 24th, 2012, 01:25 PM

sorry to hear about this as well, though as i read through i did feel that it was a tad ironic that the cause of the scare leading to the crash was the bike being lowered what seems to be too far

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnr4

Heal up and rest up, and let's start a MD 300 club next season!

250s better be allowed i don't want to buy a brand new bike as my first bike next spring, and i'd love to still have people to ride with

tnr4 · November 24th, 2012, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirref

250s better be allowed i don't want to buy a brand new bike as my first bike next spring, and i'd love to still have people to ride with

Haha. Of course you'll be allowed to join us. You just won't be able to sit with the cool kids, lol.

LoneRonin · November 24th, 2012, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

There are specific cases where that is not true.

In fact, pretty much the first sign of danger, I switch to 'track mode' gun it and run it. Road ragers, drunks, teenage testers... Dangers aren't to be ****ed with on a bike so just gtfo

lol, I know what you mean, but if you think gunning it straight on a 250 is track mode then I'm in track mode 24/7...
I meant more along the lines of crazy lean angles and taking super sharp corners at high rates of speed without any concern of yielding for traffic or potentially losing it and going crashing into traffic/pedestrians etc...

alex.s · November 26th, 2012, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneRonin

lol, I know what you mean, but if you think gunning it straight on a 250 is track mode then I'm in track mode 24/7...
I meant more along the lines of crazy lean angles and taking super sharp corners at high rates of speed without any concern of yielding for traffic or potentially losing it and going crashing into traffic/pedestrians etc...

so you are saying wreckless disregard for traffic and possibly losing it and crashing into pedestrians is... "track mode"???

akima · November 26th, 2012, 10:43 AM

^ I guess the track has pedestrians and traffic too.

LoneRonin · November 26th, 2012, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

so you are saying wreckless disregard for traffic and possibly losing it and crashing into pedestrians is... "track mode"???

pretty much...
you think its sane to be riding the way we do on the track on the street?
When I'm on the track I'm taking turns fast as ****, without thinking about a car coming the other way or being fully committed in the corners without worrying about a pedestrian crossing the street...
At least that's how I ride. Balls to the wall, I don't know about you.

alex.s · November 26th, 2012, 12:22 PM

let me ask you this then, when going around a corner at 55mph, with how much power the ninja 250 has, how much throttle will give you the correct 40/60 weight to provide "optimal traction" according to keith code? the answer is WOT. let me ask you another question, when you are on the street, would you rather be near cars or away from them? pretty easy answer right? cars kill you... stay away from them. so now lets put this logic into a scenario... you've pulled to a red light on a street that curves to the right with plenty of visibility. you have traffic stopped at the light in front of you, and cars approaching behind you. as you approach, you filter to the front (stay away from the cars approaching from the rear) and when its green you go at full speed (put distance between you and cars) and then properly keep WOT as you go around the fully visible corner to continue adding distance between you and your enemies while at the same time providing optimal traction...

not sure if you lane split in canada

maybe i simply have a bigger distinction between "race mode" and "track mode"

Minikin_Jo · November 26th, 2012, 01:45 PM

So far this is all I got. Hope the link works and all. The footage was captured by @Old Lemon's camera:

Link to original page on YouTube.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=...ype=3&theater#

(Let me know if it doesn't. I will try something else to share it.)

For those not aware of what happened:
I was in the left curve and my peg/shoe started to scrape the ground. I tried to straighten up a tad but the curve seemed to get sharper. I knew I'd run off the side of the road and I did. I meant to only for a moment, but I ended up staying in the grass on the shoulder about 100ft running paralell with the road. When I made contact with the pavement again, I couldn't understand why I suddenly headed for trees and I froze up...it wasn't until later (in the hospital) I learned when I got onto the road it started to curve to the right.

I have a shattered right scapula, minor concussion, alot of bruising and swelling, all on my right side of my body. I spent 3 days in the hospital.

My bike is totaled (album of pics in my profile) and so is all the gear/clothing I had on.

akima · November 26th, 2012, 01:46 PM

Alex is making a pretty good case @LoneRonin!

@alex.s: I'm not sure the police will see eye-to-eye with you on your street-riding-philosophy, but I guess it's a lot cheaper to pay for speeding tickets than it is to pay for medical bills.

also... <3 lane splitting! (we call it filtering)

Jono · November 26th, 2012, 01:47 PM

I can't see it.

EternalNewb · November 26th, 2012, 01:55 PM

That sounds really painful. Sorry to hear about your crash. I hope you recover quickly.

alex.s · November 26th, 2012, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akima

Alex is making a pretty good case @LoneRonin!

@alex.s: I'm not sure the police will see eye-to-eye with you on your street-riding-philosophy, but I guess it's a lot cheaper to pay for speeding tickets than it is to pay for medical bills.

also... <3 lane splitting! (we call it filtering)

i explained my last 95mph in a 45mph speeding pull-over very clearly and precisely to the gentleman and he kindly handed me back my information and told me i should get some gauges in the future without a ticket... so i think some of them do.. some, not so much (ticket before that was 95 in a 55... bascially i just do 95 everywhere)

Old Lemon · November 26th, 2012, 02:00 PM

the link does not even work for me. if it is on youtube you can make the video private and post the link here. only people with the link will be able to see it.

(and those cake pops were awesome. you should make more

)

lstat · November 26th, 2012, 02:02 PM

Looking at those pictures part of me wonders how you walked away, doesn't look like an enjoyable ride in the least bit, I can say I am glad you survived and are with us! I hope you recover quickly and can find your way back to the streets again someday soon!

alex.s · November 26th, 2012, 02:06 PM

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akima · November 26th, 2012, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

i explained my last 95mph in a 45mph speeding pull-over very clearly and precisely to the gentleman and he kindly handed me back my information and told me i should get some gauges in the future without a ticket... so i think some of them do.. some, not so much (ticket before that was 95 in a 55... bascially i just do 95 everywhere)

How does your ninjette handle your relentless use of WOT?

alex.s · November 26th, 2012, 02:12 PM

yeah. it doesn't. my engine is currently 'ssploded waiting to be rebuilt.

Samer · November 26th, 2012, 02:52 PM

I saw your accident postings on other threads. Very sorry to hear about it and I hope you heal up quick. Also I'm glad you started a new thread. I hope it helps people improve their survival skills.

NevadaWolf · November 26th, 2012, 04:54 PM

Yep, I got the same error that @alex.s posted. Heal up quick!!

DennyV · November 26th, 2012, 08:05 PM

She just put a vid up, or greg did but here the linky

Link to original page on YouTube.

csmith12 · November 26th, 2012, 08:51 PM

Best wishes and heal fast!

gsxrninja250 · November 26th, 2012, 09:09 PM

Glad you walked away! Speedy healing! Sorry to hear about the bike, I always loved that candy lime green ones, I wish the 300's came in that color.

Motofool · November 26th, 2012, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minikin_Jo

I have a shattered right scapula, minor concussion, alot of bruising and swelling, all on my right side of my body. I spent 3 days in the hospital.

Sorry to read about your accident and hospitalization.

Hope you feel better as time goes on.

DaBlue1 · November 26th, 2012, 09:30 PM

Ouch! Get well soon. Glad you're still amongst us.

ranma3030 · November 26th, 2012, 10:30 PM

Speedy Recovery! All the best fellow rider. We're all brothers and sisters!

psych0hans · November 26th, 2012, 10:56 PM

Like I said before, glad it wasn't any worse...

ChrisCusi · November 27th, 2012, 08:43 AM

Glad you're okay! Heal up quick!

Minikin_Jo · November 27th, 2012, 09:25 AM

@DennyV Thank you for putting up the Youtube link. Greg did it for me last night as I realized others couldn't view it from FB.

Thank you for the well wishes. I am not sure if Greg deleted the recording of my riding just prior to the accident. I watched it and there is nothing crazy I'm doing to indicate I'm going to wreck. Just looked like a chill easy ride. The file got corrupt right before I ran off the road. One of the other guys that rode with us said the same happened to his. Not sure what was in that area to make our cameras not work at the same time/location.

austexjg · November 27th, 2012, 09:54 AM

Glad your okay - hope you heal quickly.

hirubhaiambani · November 27th, 2012, 10:27 AM

Get well soon!

Ride safe everybody

alex.s · November 27th, 2012, 10:32 AM

holy crap jo! now you got proof you can take a hit!

subxero · November 27th, 2012, 01:12 PM

In a crash things happen so quickly and it is hard to do the correct things fighting fears and instincts and target locking. It is tough for me to go through the crash section as i understand that most of the situations could easily be me any day of the week :/ Most people don't expect to crash....i guess i do and accept that sooner or later it is gonna happen be it my fault or someone elses. Just hope to come out of it with some new found wisdom and the ability to hope back on the steel horse.

in short, glad to hear you are doing well and hopefully you make a full recovery mind and body and jump back in the saddle, besides after insurance pays up you have a 600 to look forward to right?

best,
joe

burningscooter · November 27th, 2012, 05:50 PM

heard about this crash through friends that were at the ride. good to see you're okay. POR/Frederick Loop ride has a lot of riders that crash whom are unfamiliar with the route. heal up and get back out there.

S1att3r · November 27th, 2012, 06:30 PM

Get well soon.

Ash · November 27th, 2012, 07:27 PM

Sorry to hear about the accident. Best wishes for a quick recovery.

GearMonkey · November 27th, 2012, 09:25 PM

Speedy recovery, glad it wasn't worse!

pomartin · November 28th, 2012, 07:07 PM

glad u didnt hit a tree...
get well soon, and do not became afraid of riding cuz of that... **** happens.. sadly it is part of being in traffic

November 24th, 2012, 12:33 PM	#41
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	Body position. You account for a third of the bikes weight... Use it Edit: maybe only a quarter since you are concentrate I wouldn't worry about it too much. We have all had our noob bike moments where we wind up tossing our bike down the road. Just learn what you can, don't let it get you down. Focus on getting healthy again and getting your bike __________________________________________________

November 26th, 2012, 12:22 PM	#50
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	let me ask you this then, when going around a corner at 55mph, with how much power the ninja 250 has, how much throttle will give you the correct 40/60 weight to provide "optimal traction" according to keith code? the answer is WOT. let me ask you another question, when you are on the street, would you rather be near cars or away from them? pretty easy answer right? cars kill you... stay away from them. so now lets put this logic into a scenario... you've pulled to a red light on a street that curves to the right with plenty of visibility. you have traffic stopped at the light in front of you, and cars approaching behind you. as you approach, you filter to the front (stay away from the cars approaching from the rear) and when its green you go at full speed (put distance between you and cars) and then properly keep WOT as you go around the fully visible corner to continue adding distance between you and your enemies while at the same time providing optimal traction... not sure if you lane split in canada maybe i simply have a bigger distinction between "race mode" and "track mode" __________________________________________________

November 26th, 2012, 01:45 PM	#51
Minikin_Jo ninjette.org sage Name: Jo Location: Howard County, MD Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 528	Minikin_Jo's Crash So far this is all I got. Hope the link works and all. The footage was captured by @Old Lemon's camera: Link to original page on YouTube. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=...ype=3&theater# (Let me know if it doesn't. I will try something else to share it.) For those not aware of what happened: I was in the left curve and my peg/shoe started to scrape the ground. I tried to straighten up a tad but the curve seemed to get sharper. I knew I'd run off the side of the road and I did. I meant to only for a moment, but I ended up staying in the grass on the shoulder about 100ft running paralell with the road. When I made contact with the pavement again, I couldn't understand why I suddenly headed for trees and I froze up...it wasn't until later (in the hospital) I learned when I got onto the road it started to curve to the right. I have a shattered right scapula, minor concussion, alot of bruising and swelling, all on my right side of my body. I spent 3 days in the hospital. My bike is totaled (album of pics in my profile) and so is all the gear/clothing I had on. __________________________________________________ I'm not short, I'm concentrated AWESOME!

November 26th, 2012, 02:02 PM	#57
lstat THE ninja Name: Logan Location: Branson, mo Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): '03 CBR 600 f4i "Lola" Posts: 73	Looking at those pictures part of me wonders how you walked away, doesn't look like an enjoyable ride in the least bit, I can say I am glad you survived and are with us! I hope you recover quickly and can find your way back to the streets again someday soon! __________________________________________________ -It takes more love to share the saddle than it does to share the bed- Unregistered doesn't know what he is talking about.

November 26th, 2012, 02:06 PM	#58
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	This content is currently unavailable The page you requested cannot be displayed right now. It may be temporarily unavailable, the link you clicked on may have expired, or you may not have permission to view this page. __________________________________________________

November 24th, 2012, 12:50 PM	#43
tnr4 ninjette.org sage Name: Travis Location: Washington, DC Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki GSX650F! Past: Kawasaki Ninja 300 (Sold); Triumph Street Triple (Sold); Kawasaki Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: 664	Late to the game, but sorry to hear this Jo! But very glad to hear that you made it out in one piece. Heal up and rest up, and let's start a MD 300 club next season!

November 26th, 2012, 10:43 AM	#48
akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	^ I guess the track has pedestrians and traffic too.

November 26th, 2012, 01:46 PM	#52
akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	Alex is making a pretty good case @LoneRonin! @alex.s: I'm not sure the police will see eye-to-eye with you on your street-riding-philosophy, but I guess it's a lot cheaper to pay for speeding tickets than it is to pay for medical bills. also... <3 lane splitting! (we call it filtering)

November 26th, 2012, 01:47 PM	#53
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	I can't see it.

November 26th, 2012, 01:55 PM	#54
EternalNewb ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: S Location: CA/MA, usually Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R, 2007 Ninja 650R, 2001 F650 Dakar Posts: A lot.	That sounds really painful. Sorry to hear about your crash. I hope you recover quickly.

November 26th, 2012, 02:00 PM	#56
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	the link does not even work for me. if it is on youtube you can make the video private and post the link here. only people with the link will be able to see it. (and those cake pops were awesome. you should make more )

November 26th, 2012, 02:12 PM	#60
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	yeah. it doesn't. my engine is currently 'ssploded waiting to be rebuilt. __________________________________________________

November 26th, 2012, 02:52 PM	#61
Samer ninjette.org guru Name: Samer Location: Jupiter, Florida Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE Posts: 376	I saw your accident postings on other threads. Very sorry to hear about it and I hope you heal up quick. Also I'm glad you started a new thread. I hope it helps people improve their survival skills.

November 26th, 2012, 04:54 PM	#62
NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	Yep, I got the same error that @alex.s posted. Heal up quick!! __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

November 26th, 2012, 08:05 PM	#63
DennyV ninjette.org member Name: Dennis Location: Maryland Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 Posts: 212	She just put a vid up, or greg did but here the linky Link to original page on YouTube.

November 26th, 2012, 08:51 PM	#64
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Best wishes and heal fast! __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

November 26th, 2012, 09:09 PM	#65
gsxrninja250 ninjette.org member Name: chris Location: los angeles Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): none yet Posts: 118	Glad you walked away! Speedy healing! Sorry to hear about the bike, I always loved that candy lime green ones, I wish the 300's came in that color.

November 26th, 2012, 09:30 PM	#67
DaBlue1 Long Time Rider Name: Blue Location: Charlotte, NC Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Ouch! Get well soon. Glad you're still amongst us.

November 26th, 2012, 10:30 PM	#68
ranma3030 ninjette.org member Name: Deejay Location: adelaide Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r SE green. Posts: 75	Speedy Recovery! All the best fellow rider. We're all brothers and sisters!

November 26th, 2012, 10:56 PM	#69
psych0hans ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Hansveer Location: Bombay, India Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r - Track whore, Ninja 300 - SOLD, KTM RC390 - Orange Hulk, Ducati 899 Panigale - Red Devil. Posts: A lot.	Like I said before, glad it wasn't any worse... __________________________________________________ GETTING BACK INTO RIDING? Read this.

November 27th, 2012, 08:43 AM	#70
ChrisCusi ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Arizona Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 (Black) Posts: 77	Glad you're okay! Heal up quick!

November 27th, 2012, 09:25 AM	#71
Minikin_Jo ninjette.org sage Name: Jo Location: Howard County, MD Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 528	@DennyV Thank you for putting up the Youtube link. Greg did it for me last night as I realized others couldn't view it from FB. Thank you for the well wishes. I am not sure if Greg deleted the recording of my riding just prior to the accident. I watched it and there is nothing crazy I'm doing to indicate I'm going to wreck. Just looked like a chill easy ride. The file got corrupt right before I ran off the road. One of the other guys that rode with us said the same happened to his. Not sure what was in that area to make our cameras not work at the same time/location. __________________________________________________ I'm not short, I'm concentrated AWESOME!

November 27th, 2012, 09:54 AM	#72
austexjg ninjette.org sage Name: J.G. Location: Austin Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 zx6r Green/Black, (ex-)Diablo Black '09 Ninja 250r Posts: 959	Glad your okay - hope you heal quickly. __________________________________________________ Anyone can go fast in a straight line.... Once you go track, you never go back....

November 27th, 2012, 10:27 AM	#73
hirubhaiambani Ninjette Fanboy Name: HB Location: Missouri Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja250 Posts: 307	Get well soon! Ride safe everybody

November 27th, 2012, 10:32 AM	#74
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	holy crap jo! now you got proof you can take a hit! __________________________________________________

November 27th, 2012, 01:12 PM	#75
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	In a crash things happen so quickly and it is hard to do the correct things fighting fears and instincts and target locking. It is tough for me to go through the crash section as i understand that most of the situations could easily be me any day of the week :/ Most people don't expect to crash....i guess i do and accept that sooner or later it is gonna happen be it my fault or someone elses. Just hope to come out of it with some new found wisdom and the ability to hope back on the steel horse. in short, glad to hear you are doing well and hopefully you make a full recovery mind and body and jump back in the saddle, besides after insurance pays up you have a 600 to look forward to right? best, joe

November 27th, 2012, 05:50 PM	#76
burningscooter clutch Name: nameless Location: Maryland Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): L1 GSXR600 Posts: 543	heard about this crash through friends that were at the ride. good to see you're okay. POR/Frederick Loop ride has a lot of riders that crash whom are unfamiliar with the route. heal up and get back out there.

November 27th, 2012, 06:30 PM	#77
S1att3r ninjette.org member Name: Raygan Location: North East Texas Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): White 2013 Ninja 300(Storm), Silver 2003 Fjr1300 Posts: 173	Get well soon.

November 27th, 2012, 07:27 PM	#78
Ash ninjette.org member Name: Ash Location: Baltimore, Maryland Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 114	Sorry to hear about the accident. Best wishes for a quick recovery.

November 27th, 2012, 09:25 PM	#79
GearMonkey ninjette.org guru Name: Scott Location: Atlanta Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R Posts: 363	Speedy recovery, glad it wasn't worse!

November 28th, 2012, 07:07 PM	#80
pomartin ninjette.org member Name: Martin Location: Slovenia Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R (FI) Posts: 169	glad u didnt hit a tree... get well soon, and do not became afraid of riding cuz of that... **** happens.. sadly it is part of being in traffic